[the truth]

Originally Posted by arista

University is not a help
Get a Trade first
Work First

agreed. unless you want to be a doctor , id suggest go to work for a few years then decide. then if you study for law degree go for it. but id rather go for a proper full on degree not one of the endless nonsense ones that offer no career

[arista]

Originally Posted by the truth

agreed. unless you want to be a doctor , id suggest go to work for a few years then decide. then if you study for law degree go for it. but id rather go for a proper full on degree not one of the endless nonsense ones that offer no career

Doctors cost alot to train
then Down Under
nicks them with higher pay

That must stop

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

agreed. unless you want to be a doctor , id suggest go to work for a few years then decide. then if you study for law degree go for it. but id rather go for a proper full on degree not one of the endless nonsense ones that offer no career

I personally think that people should study whatever they want, but I do agree that people should take a few years to think about what they want to do, so that they might discover what genuinely interests them. Too many people jump right in straight from school into any old degree... And even the ones who do well and get well paid jobs after university sometimes (too often) discover too late that they lack passion for what they are doing.

I wish I had stuck with computer science instead of ditching it for psychology. I adore tech, I love programming... I can't STAND most human beings .

If I had been a bit older and wiser I'm convinced I would have a more useful degree and a job that I like (or at least don't actively despise) now. I would still have gone to uni but I'd have been smarter about it, and more committed.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I personally think that people should study whatever they want, but I do agree that people should take a few years to think about what they want to do, so that they might discover what genuinely interests them. Too many people jump right in straight from school into any old degree... And even the ones who do well and get well paid jobs after university sometimes (too often) discover too late that they lack passion for what they are doing.

I wish I had stuck with computer science instead of ditching it for psychology. I adore tech, I love programming... I can't STAND most human beings .

If I had been a bit older and wiser I'm convinced I would have a more useful degree and a job that I like (or at least don't actively despise) now. I would still have gone to uni but I'd have been smarter about it, and more committed.

I can see all the points as to what you say above Toy Soldier.They will work well for some and not so for others I guess.

Speaking for myself however,I went straight Uni with no break after education and now it is all done,I would not have wanted to do it any other way.

I have a choice of 2 careers ahead of me now and I love both.

I am actually now,(because I have prepared for it before anyone jumps in to attack students for going to uni then doing nothing with it),later this year stopping work for a time and taking a few months to myself to firstly relax,then also to decide which career I really want to follow.

I would hate to have done it the other way round myself and just be thinking about Uni say later this year.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I can see all the points as to what you say above Toy Soldier.They will work well for some and not so for others I guess.

Speaking for myself however,I went straight Uni with no break after education and now it is all done,I would not have wanted to do it any other way.

I have a choice of 2 careers ahead of me now and I love both.

I am actually now,(because I have prepared for it before anyone jumps in to attack students for going to uni then doing nothing with it),later this year stopping work for a time and taking a few months to myself to firstly relax,then also to decide which career I really want to follow.

I would hate to have done it the other way round myself and just be thinking about Uni say later this year.

Some people do obviously have a good idea what they want to do even at school, I know a girl who switched high schools (to my school from another) specifically because hers didn't offer Advanced Higher Biology and she wanted to get into medicine. So it is different for different people. But, many do feel "pushed" into applying by their schools, especially if they have good grades, and just apply for various courses without really knowing what captures their imagination. Drop out rates and first year course switching shouldn't really be as prevalent as it is, I think.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Some people do obviously have a good idea what they want to do even at school, I know a girl who switched high schools (to my school from another) specifically because hers didn't offer Advanced Higher Biology and she wanted to get into medicine. So it is different for different people. But, many do feel "pushed" into applying by their schools, especially if they have good grades, and just apply for various courses without really knowing what captures their imagination. Drop out rates and first year course switching shouldn't really be as prevalent as it is, I think.

Yes, they are all strong and very valid points again. I agree.

[arista]

So many that have been at University
are now saying they wasted 2 years.

Get a Trade
stand up strong.

[Marsh.]

Well if THEY wasted 2 years then that's their own fault.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well if THEY wasted 2 years then that's their own fault.

No its the advisers that tell them Uni is best
and Fecking New Labour

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

No its the advisers that tell them Uni is best
and Fecking New Labour

There's no such thing as New Labour now, thank goodness.

Also, some may feel they wasted 2/3 years at Uni, those also who go to Uni then drop out after a year or so also feel probably they wasted that time.

As with most situations as to life, hindsight after the event always makes things seem clearer,or that there should and could have been better ways.
However,to not have done that wasted time would have possibly left other regrets of not trying it at least.

No one is,or ever should be, forced to go to Uni, by politicians or anyone else,although the lack of real opportunities of good jobs now without some degrees,that in the jobs climate now over lots of areas of work, are becoming more and more selective and limited.
University does seem the way forward if you can get there and at least open up a more fighting chance for yourself.

Better to have tried and failed,as the saying goes, that in itself is more life experience and learning.