[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

He's not a good speaker, in fact he's a dreadful speaker but then so is Cameron. Cameron sounded like he was giving a scripted sales pitch and Milliband sounded like he was trying to avoid the naughty step.

It's hard to defend the indefensible, both the PM and Ed Miliband were always going to struggle to defend their records.

Mr Cameron's lacklustre 5 years in Govt where he promised so much and delivered almost nothing the only bright spot I guess is the fall in unemployment but even that has probably been achieved through massaging the way the numbers are counted coupled with the rise of zero hour jobs which in my mind are not really proper jobs at all.

Overall the National debt is still rising we are still borrowing huge amounts of money each year just to survive as a country, meanwhile Big Banks and Big Business continue to make billions in profit but your average person in the street is no better off just look at the number of people visiting Food banks.

So Mr Paxman did not have to try too hard to pull Mr Cameron's record in office to pieces.

As for Mr Miliband well he is still tainted by the last Labour Govt call it guilty by association, Ed Miliband is well meaning and probably quite passionate about helping the GBP especially the ones who need help the most, but like countless Labour Govt's in the past they are guilty of reckless spending to achieve these aims and not understanding that this money has to be paid back eventually.

You cannot keep giving people more and more and asking for less and less in return, and the policy of uncontrolled immigration in an effort to boost productivity has been nothing short of a disaster for this Country.

So Mr Paxman had plenty of ammo to throw at Mr Miliband.

As a footnote to the debate I was surprised Mr Paxman chose to go after the man (Ed Miliband) in such a personal way, the questions about his brother and his appeal are quite frankly just bitchy , Mr Paxman should have attacked his policies or proposed policies NOT Mr Miliband.

Credit to Ed Miliband though he did defend himself and I think all in all did himself no real harm albeit after a shaky start.

All to play for now as they move on to the next debate.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

It's hard to defend the indefensible, both the PM and Ed Miliband were always going to struggle to defend their records.

Mr Cameron's lacklustre 5 years in Govt where he promised so much and delivered almost nothing the only bright spot I guess is the fall in unemployment but even that has probably been achieved through massaging the way the numbers are counted coupled with the rise of zero hour jobs which in my mind are not really proper jobs at all.

Overall the National debt is still rising we are still borrowing huge amounts of money each year just to survive as a country, meanwhile Big Banks and Big Business continue to make billions in profit but your average person in the street is no better off just look at the number of people visiting Food banks.

So Mr Paxman did not have to try too hard to pull Mr Cameron's record in office to pieces.

As for Mr Miliband well he is still tainted by the last Labour Govt call it guilty by association, Ed Miliband is well meaning and probably quite passionate about helping the GBP especially the ones who need help the most, but like countless Labour Govt's in the past they are guilty of reckless spending to achieve these aims and not understanding that this money has to be paid back eventually.

You cannot keep giving people more and more and asking for less and less in return, and the policy of uncontrolled immigration in an effort to boost productivity has been nothing short of a disaster for this Country.

So Mr Paxman had plenty of ammo to throw at Mr Miliband.

As a footnote to the debate I was surprised Mr Paxman chose to go after the man (Ed Miliband) in such a personal way, the questions about his brother and his appeal are quite frankly just bitchy , Mr Paxman should have attacked his policies or proposed policies NOT Mr Miliband.

Credit to Ed Miliband though he did defend himself and I think all in all did himself no real harm albeit after a shaky start.

All to play for now as they move on to the next debate.

Couldn't of said it better myself.

[smudgie]

Well do explanation Ed..and please keep your paws off the pensioners.

[Kazanne]

Milliband looks to be wasting time,by stalling Paxmans questions

[Nedusa]

Oh dear Milband is all over the place, Paxman is actually enjoying this, Miliband looks very unsure and anything but a Prime Minister....!!!!

[Kazanne]

Well he's not convincing me to vote Labour,infact the opposite

[Nedusa]

This is actually getting embarrassing now... He is insulting Paxman now

[arista]

[Nedusa]

Labour bigwigs must be so pissed off with this

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Labour bigwigs must be so pissed off with this

Got to be, surely.

[Nedusa]

Paxman going for the jugular now with personal insults...

Sad to watch if I'm honest

[smudgie]

Unfortunately I think he may have helped people make their minds up..no way could I waste a vote on this clown.

[Kazanne]

Paxman being a bit cruel there,but Milliband has stuttered and melted with Paxman.

[arista]

I say the PM won this debate

[Kazanne]

That was interesting,I enjoyed it. Yes arista without a doubt.

[Nedusa]

Paxman asks him as the interview ends.... Are you alright Ed?? Then camera fades out

Really tough on Ed that was and a little unfair if I'm honest what with all the personal insults.

If I were Ed I would have asked Paxman what any of that has to do with Labour policies

[Crimson Dynamo]

Win for dave

[Nedusa]

I concur

[MTVN]

Cameron had the short straw by going first but handled it ok. Miliband did alright with the audience, he started shakily against Paxman but grew into it and actually finished strongly

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Cameron had the short straw by going first but handled it ok. Miliband did alright with the audience, he started shakily against Paxman but grew into it and actually finished strongly

You say he finished strongly, I think Paxman took his foot of the gas as Ed was starting to look really muddled.

He did not finish strong

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

You say he finished strongly, I think Paxman took his foot of the gas as Ed was starting to look really muddled.

He did not finish strong

Well I don't think so. He settled into it well and actually hit back pretty strongly against Paxman a couple of times

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well I don't think so. He settled into it well and actually hit back pretty strongly against Paxman a couple of times

No.... Miliband had the look of a frightened animal caught in the headlamps... He almost had a pleading look in his eyes at Paxman say don't ask me anything more.

What a relief for Ed when that finished

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

No.... Miliband had the look of a frightened animal caught in the headlamps... He almost had a pleading look in his eyes at Paxman say don't ask me anything more.

What a relief for Ed when that finished

Heh well your view is your view, I've never been a fan of him but I do think Miliband came across quite well tonight

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel would have excelled

[smudgie]

Cameron 1

Milliband 0.

What can one say.