[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by smudgie

DO people hate Helen, or hate her behaviour, or does it have to be the same thing?

Not sure on that one smudgie but I do think some of the comments about her are worse than some of the stuff she has said, it's all so hypocritical.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Not sure on that one smudgie but I do think some of the comments about her are worse than some of the stuff she has said, it's all so hypocritical.

Its not really though, its human nature. When someone is hateful, they attract hate, and when they are kind and compassionate, they attract kindness and love. No - one dislikes Helen for nothing, they have good reason to.
It's well documented that people who admire the Helen's and Katie Hopkins of this world do so in the main because their unnecessary insults and put downs of others make them feel better about themselves. She's quite the therapist, is Helen.

[kefln]

Yawn, so Helens back, calling people names like "fat *******", shouting people down, arguing, nothing has changed, same stupidity, different HMs. The only thing she contributes is abuse. Vileness spills out of her everytime the camera pans her way. Tin pots have more intelligence, Simon Cowells next boyband has more originality, the woman has nothing to contribute other than shouting everyone else down because there just isn't anything else to her. You could stick her in every reality series going and the result would be the same, hours of her shouting and name calling.

Marc is a bellend, but he's entertaining, Hellen is just a foul mouth time bomb waiting for her next fight and more camera time. We've seen it all before, its dull, its pointless, its noise pollution, its another day of Hellen shouting people down. Yawn.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kefln

Yawn, so Helens back, calling people names like "fat *******", shouting people down, arguing, nothing has changed, same stupidity, different HMs. The only thing she contributes is abuse. Vileness spills out of her everytime the camera pans her way. Tin pots have more intelligence, Simon Cowells next boyband has more originality, the woman has nothing to contribute other than shouting everyone else down because there just isn't anything else to her. You could stick her in every reality series going and the result would be the same, hours of her shouting and name calling.

Marc is a bellend, but he's entertaining, Hellen is just a foul mouth time bomb waiting for her next fight and more camera time. We've seen it all before, its dull, its pointless, its noise pollution, its another day of Hellen shouting people down. Yawn.

And here we all are still talking about her,so it's not so dull and pointless is it?

[Liam-]

I can see why Helen is hated, she has a loud mouth, she speaks before she thinks, she doesn't know when to shut up, she loves a good slanging match, but, as a fan of hers, I like her despite all that, not for that.

Yes she was awful for the first 2 weeks, I couldn't stand her then, but as the weeks went on imo, she saw the error of her ways, apologised to Jale, became friends with her and she mellowed out, I know that opinion is going to be met with the usual torrid of comments like 'are you stupid?' 'No she didn't though' 'You just bought into what the production wanted you to' but no, I've known people like Helen and that's why I know that while the shouting and the swearing might be the loudest part, it's not always the only part of a person.

Despite all the hate towards her, she has been the only housemate in years that I would actually like to have as a friend because you can see how loyal, upfront and honest she is, I'd much rather have her as a friend, or even just to shout at me when I'm being a dick, than have someone who was going to go behind my back by being sly, sneaky and vindictive.

Give me Helen any day of the week.

[Angelika]

Originally Posted by BigBuk

Seriously Helen, "nasty" "a bully" "vile," etc.

YES, Helen is everything the public call her. She made a big error of judgement accepting BB's offer to to back into the house. She's losing popularity every time she opens her vile mouth.

By the time she comes out her career should be well and truly over.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Angelika

YES, Helen is everything the public call her. She made a big error of judgement accepting BB's offer to to back into the house. She's losing popularity every time she opens her vile mouth.

By the time she comes out her career should be well and truly over.

Her career is being a vile loud mouth without an ounce of what most would consider social intelligence.

[Tom4784]

She's a bully inside and outside of Big Brother, she masks being abusive as honesty and she's a complete and utter hypocrite.

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by BigBuk

Seriously don't get the hate towards Helen, gets called "nasty" "a bully" "vile," etc. by the the public when in reality she isn't that bad, all she does is speak her mind, hasn't "bullied" anybody this year or last year for that matter. She has arguments with people who can defend themselves, unlike the majority of the HMs who were ganging up on Simon over minor stuff. Brian and Jack (who was the worst for having a go at Simon and slagging him off) are pathetic but people won't notice it, take shots at people they know the public dislike the first chance they get just to become more popular. Jack is the worst HM in the C5 BB series, didn't think anyone would top off the twins "Jack and Joe" or whatever they were called but he's managed it for me, boring kid that chats ****, slags off people whenever he gets the chance but constantly moans about two faced people, despise him.

The feeling I got from last nights show re Helen was,

HEAVILY EDITED or a WORD IN HER EAR

To make her look less of a cow as there was huge back lash against her on twitter on Monday. HUGE. No one likes her - n were angry C5 put her back in. I know I was.

as there is no live feed they dont show it now - the real her was the first ten mins on Monday. Dont forget - the media types rely on the public to have short memories.

[GiRTh]

She won the show last year.This year she is invited back to go into the house for a short period of time. This is what I dont undersatnd cuz if that was me I'd be in there with my feet up bantering with everyone, having a laugh etc. Why not, she's won the show she quite literally has nothing to prove and certainly nothing to gain at all from this brief visit but no she's in with the bitching, she's singled out who she doesnt like and told them which included some name calling, she's defin9itey taken sides with Marc and appears to be against anyone Marc doesnt like. I dont get it. Why is she so motivated to act the way she is acting? Why is she not more relaxed in there.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

She won the show last year.This year she is invited back to go into the house for a short period of time. This is what I dont undersatnd cuz if that was me I'd be in there with my feet up bantering with everyone, having a laugh etc. Why not, she's won the show she quite literally has nothing to prove and certainly nothing to gain at all from this brief visit but no she's in with the bitching, she's singled out who she doesnt like and told them which included some name calling, she's defin9itey taken sides with Marc and appears to be against anyone Marc doesnt like. I dont get it. Why is she so motivated to act the way she is acting? Why is she not more relaxed in there.

Helen has formed an opinion of them as we have on the outside,she has proven she is open minded by chatting to Harry and making up with Brian,she said she was told to 'stir it up' and she has,people don't like nice and boring,they don't like loud and opinionated,just what exactly do people want from BB?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Helen has formed an opinion of them as we have on the outside,she has proven she is open minded by chatting to Harry and making up with Brian,she said she was told to 'stir it up' and she has,people don't like nice and boring,they don't like loud and opinionated,just what exactly do people want from BB?

Both BRian and Nikki talk to the HM's but I dont really see Helen talking to them about anything other than nominations or telling them what she thinks of them. IMO its odd behaviour considering she doesnt have anything to gain.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

She won the show last year.This year she is invited back to go into the house for a short period of time. This is what I dont undersatnd cuz if that was me I'd be in there with my feet up bantering with everyone, having a laugh etc. Why not, she's won the show she quite literally has nothing to prove and certainly nothing to gain at all from this brief visit but no she's in with the bitching, she's singled out who she doesnt like and told them which included some name calling, she's defin9itey taken sides with Marc and appears to be against anyone Marc doesnt like. I dont get it. Why is she so motivated to act the way she is acting? Why is she not more relaxed in there.

I think shes hoping for a Hopkins-like career to be honest even if it is just a fiver a week to appear on BBOTS, it's stopping her from getting an actual job for a little while.

[Kizzy]

Everyone she comes into contact with has a mouth too don't they?... The abuse she gets is 100% worse than she gives out in the house.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Everyone she comes into contact with has a mouth too don't they?... The abuse she gets is 100% worse than she gives out in the house.

This is a mystery to me Kizzy,people make out she is some unapproachable identity,IF people actually spoke to her and aired their feelings,you just know Helen would understand,if she didn't she would tell them.You wouldn't just sit there and let her mouth of at you ,would you?I know I wouldn't.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Everyone she comes into contact with has a mouth too don't they?... The abuse she gets is 100% worse than she gives out in the house.

The majority of people wouldn't stand up to Helen, not because they don't have strong characters but because Helen is aggressively unstable (or at least she comes across that way) and most of us humans have something called 'self preservation'.

Helen is a Rottweiler and although many people people often like Rottweilers, they are very cautious about prodding them.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Everyone she comes into contact with has a mouth too don't they?... The abuse she gets is 100% worse than she gives out in the house.

Because other people dont find it necessary to be abusive. Most people are decent and find her verbal diorreah as totally unnecessary.
Helen is scum...she is incapable of being fair or taking critisism...she criticises people for the very thing she does...only she does it at a much higher level.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Because other people dont find it necessary to be abusive. Most people are decent and find her verbal diorreah as totally unnecessary.
Helen is scum...she is incapable of being fair or taking critisism...she criticises people for the very thing she does...only she does it at a much higher level.

So true.

Both she and Marc like to give it but hate it back. Which is quite frankly. Pathetic.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Because other people dont find it necessary to be abusive. Most people are decent and find her verbal diorreah as totally unnecessary.
Helen is scum...she is incapable of being fair or taking critisism...she criticises people for the very thing she does...only she does it at a much higher level.

Oh then why are half the house hanging off her every word? They need to tell her instead of sitting there like a set of nodding dogs.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh then why are half the house hanging off her every word? They need to tell her instead of sitting there like a set of nodding dogs.

Because most are not like her and besides what would be the point, they know that she is gone tomorrow. And it looks like Cristian did today, good man.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by abhorson

Because most are not like her and besides what would be the point, they know that she is gone tomorrow. And it looks like Cristian did today, good man.

The point is they wouldn't look so spineless, if I don't like what someone is saying I don't agree do you?
I'm not suggesting having a go back you would just avoid them.
Yes good on Cristian it's about time he showed he was something other than attractive wallpaper, I was about to rename him laura ashley.

[BB1984]

It is getting kinda boring all the Helen hate especially on BOTS, it seems like cool & edgy to hate & badmouth Helen for her personality.
If people get intimidated by her in the house, that is their own problem.

[Glenn.]

She bullied jale and Christopher for weeks last year welp

[Jack_]

I do understand why people dislike her but the screams of 'bully' just annoy me. Okay, her treatment of Jale and Christopher in the early weeks of BB15 were definitely on the cusp of bullying and was extremely uncomfortable, but the rest of the series all she did was run her mouth off and make nasty insults to people who were more than capable of arguing back. She was a horrible ****, but not a bully.

And this week she's not even been that bad...so why people are still moaning is beyond me.

[Glenn.]

She bullied them.