[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Miss Nicole

He didn't murder anyone so that's not relevant.

My point is any idiot can cause an argument then run to the diary room with fake tears playing the victim just like Brian.

[Miss Nicole]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

My point is any idiot can cause an argument then run to the diary room with fake tears playing the victim just like Brian.

This thread is about listing examples of when Brian was antagonised, what I'm saying is regardless of what anyone thinks about any situation if Brian said he felt that way then he did .

[Nancy.]

Griffin and BB4 fan, I agree with everything you've said in here, Well done. Too bad nobody has given you any examples yet but I expected it tbh..

[BB4fan]

Brian started on Marc ALL the time. We only have to rewatch the hour show to see who caused what.


That loud mouthed Brian kept on and on.

[Miss Nicole]

If Brian felt antagonised he was being antagonized, that's no doubt why bb gave Marc and Helen a warning , maybe you can't quantify something like that , so giving examples is irrelevant .

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Miss Nicole

If Brian felt antagonised he was being antagonized, that's no doubt why bb gave Marc and Helen a warning , maybe you can't quantify something like that , so giving examples is irrelevant .

You don't think had Brian stayed that he wouldn't have got a warning...??? Or ejected.

He took all his clothes off and Helen felt terrified. She didn't want to enrage him further just read the poor woman's column.

[Miss Nicole]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

You don't think had Brian stayed that he wouldn't have got a warning...??? Or ejected.

He took all his clothes off and Helen felt terrified. She didn't want to enrage him further just read the poor woman's column.

I can't talk about what might have happened, all I can say is if Brian felt antagonised then that's it and no amount of collecting times and dates and incidents will change that .

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Miss Nicole

I can't talk about what might have happened, all I can say is if Brian felt antagonised then that's it and no amount of collecting times and dates and incidents will change that .

But lets be honest here he looked for it time and time again with both Helen and Marc.

Helen did make remarks YES, but with Marc Brian just simply went for him constantly, then played victim simply because Marc wass friends with Helen. His bad temper would indicate to me that he never felt the least bit antagonized.

[Miss Nicole]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

But lets be honest here he looked for it time and time again with both Helen and Marc.

Helen did make remarks YES, but with Marc Brian just simply went for him constantly, then played victim simply because Marc wass friends with Helen. His bad temper would indicate to me that he never felt the least bit antagonized.

All of that is only your opinion from your perspective which you are entitled to, but you can't say some one felt or didn't feel a way just because you don't agree with it.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

You don't think had Brian stayed that he wouldn't have got a warning...??? Or ejected.

He took all his clothes off and Helen felt terrified. She didn't want to enrage him further just read the poor woman's column.

How do you know that Helen was terrified? Because she said so. As Brian said he felt antagonised. Can't have one rule for one and another for the other. I am in no way saying Helen wasn't if that's what she said but if that's the case then it follows that equally Brian could feel antagonised about something he experienced

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

How do you know that Helen was terrified? Because she said so. As Brian said he felt antagonised. Can't have one rule for one and another for the other. I am in no way saying Helen wasn't if that's what she said but if that's the case then it follows that equally Brian could feel antagonised about something he experienced

The difference between Brian and Helen is that HE constantly went at them. I find it hard to believe that someone who went looking for it felt one bit antagonized.

[Miss Nicole]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

The difference between Brian and Helen is that HE constantly went at them. I find it hard to believe that someone who went looking for it felt one bit antagonized.

He felt antagonized , she felt scared that's it really.
Both feelings are valid .

[Miss Nicole]

Helen said she felt scared of Brian .

Brian felt antagonised.

You can't argue either are wrong.

[rubymoo]

In one episode Marc admits that he antagonized Brian, Brian accused Marc and Helen of following him around when he was trying to stay away from them, antagonizing someone doesn't have to mean a verbal scrap, it can be a look, a snide comment that could be passed off as banter, it can be a smug look, there are many ways to antagonize a person, and how i see it is that Marc deliberately and knowingly and cleverly antagonized Brian, but we as the audience only see what BB want us to see, but nearly everyone who has gone into the house has had a problem with Marc, they can't all be wrong can they?