[lily.]

Originally Posted by the truth

no. hell no. but prescribed for certain medical conditions yes. drugs is insanely out of control in the uk already as is drug related crime which is 10,000 times per head worse than the usa

Yeah, but they balance it out with their gun crime stats.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lily.

Yeah, but they balance it out with their gun crime stats.

maybe but it doesn't make our absurd drug related crime and violent crime stats any better....our figures are way worse than the yanks. plus although I detest guns, ill play devils advocate here and point out whilst theres 13000 yanks shot dead on the streets and even worse rates in s America and s Africa...but how many lives do guns actually save? old people are often left defensless in the uk against drug users and violent thieves, I bet theyd love a pistol in their hands and I bet it would ward off some of these thugs

[the truth]

its ok because Russell brand says so....but when the **** hits the fan and we go back to Russell and said, wait a minute we have zillions more druggies now, more drug related crime everywhere, more addicts robbing people to pay for their addiction, more addicts who cant work and go onto harder drugs, more drug pushers growing their own unregulated thh mind altering skunk, none of which can be tested....more drug related deaths.........over to you Russell? his response? oh im just a comedian mate.....nice one Russell

[waterhog]

dezzy at present - weed is illegal - so it does not make a hypocrite- i get what you are saying as in terms of damage though.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by waterhog

dezzy at present - weed is illegal - so it does not make a hypocrite- i get what you are saying as in terms of damage though.

I don't think it's wrong to say it's hypocritical to want to keep weed illegal but still partake in alchohol and cigerettes especially when a lot of the arguments against weed apply even more so to those two.

[Nedusa]

Well on more realistic level the powers that be will never legalise cannabis because they know it would have a pernicious affect on Society , turning an already lazy workforce into goodness knows what.

For that reason alone govts don't want half the Country's workforce on sedation.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Well on more realistic level the powers that be will never legalise cannabis because they know it would have a pernicious affect on Society , turning an already lazy workforce into goodness knows what.

For that reason alone govts don't want half the Country's workforce on sedation.

....You're not serious, right? THAT's your reasoning?

Would you say the same thing about alcohol? It's more addictive than weed, the dangers of consuming too much of it is worse for the person drinking it and the people around them but that's A-okay because Weed will cause the downfall of society?

There's millions of people that smoke weed and, surprisingly enough, they don't turn into Jay and Silent Bob for doing so. Your arguments are based on nothing but rather stupid scenarios, stereotypes and facts without context.

You are reaching for reasons and honestly it's hilarious.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

....You're not serious, right? THAT's your reasoning?

Would you say the same thing about alcohol? It's more addictive than weed, the dangers of consuming too much of it is worse for the person drinking it and the people around them but that's A-okay because Weed will cause the downfall of society?

There's millions of people that smoke weed and, surprisingly enough, they don't turn into Jay and Silent Bob for doing so. Your arguments are based on nothing but rather stupid scenarios, stereotypes and fact without context.

You are reaching for reasons and honestly it's hilarious.

with respect, this is all just fluff from someone who I presume takes cannabis illegally already and wants to justify it.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

with respect, this is all just fluff from someone who I presume takes cannabis illegally already and wants to justify it.

I've never done any drugs in my life and probably never will, I have no interest in doing so. I just think it's ridiculous that weed is treated like it is when we're all fine and dandy with people puffing on cancer sticks and drinking vehicular manslaughter juice.

It's hypocritical.

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I've never done any drugs in my life and probably never will, I have no interest in doing so. I just think it's ridiculous that weed is treated like it is when we're all fine and dandy with people puffing on cancer sticks and drinking vehicular manslaughter juice.

It's hypocritical.

If you've ever drunk alcohol, smoked cigarettes, or drunk coffee, you've "done drugs". It's just a matter of what's acceptable on the day, as I'm sure you know and recognise.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I've never done any drugs in my life and probably never will, I have no interest in doing so. I just think it's ridiculous that weed is treated like it is when we're all fine and dandy with people puffing on cancer sticks and drinking vehicular manslaughter juice.

It's hypocritical.

They made a mistake making alcohol and tobacco freely available and relatively unregulated. Where I am coming from is that we shouldn't sink to the lowest common denominator and just make anything and everything legal. Its not a justification in itself to say that cannabis should be legal because tobacco and alcohol are.

To me its a very strange bandwagon to be on. We know the issues there are with non prescribed drugs in whatever format, so suggesting we add to the mess by making cannabis legal is just illogical.

I should add that any government that positively makes a drug legal which was previously illegal, risks getting their asses sued in this day and age if some unfortunate event can be associated with it. For that reason alone, it will never be legalised

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

....You're not serious, right? THAT's your reasoning?

Would you say the same thing about alcohol? It's more addictive than weed, the dangers of consuming too much of it is worse for the person drinking it and the people around them but that's A-okay because Weed will cause the downfall of society?

There's millions of people that smoke weed and, surprisingly enough, they don't turn into Jay and Silent Bob for doing so. Your arguments are based on nothing but rather stupid scenarios, stereotypes and facts without context.

You are reaching for reasons and honestly it's hilarious.

Nobody's laughing except you..........perhaps you are a victim also of this scourge....

My sympathies if that is the case.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

They made a mistake making alcohol and tobacco freely available and relatively unregulated. Where I am coming from is that we shouldn't sink to the lowest common denominator and just make anything and everything legal. Its not a justification in itself to say that cannabis should be legal because tobacco and alcohol are.

To me its a very strange bandwagon to be on. We know the issues there are with non prescribed drugs in whatever format, so suggesting we add to the mess by making cannabis legal is just illogical.

I should add that any government that positively makes a drug legal which was previously illegal, risks getting their asses sued in this day and age if some unfortunate event can be associated with it. For that reason alone, it will never be legalised

Tobacco and Alcohol are 'relatively' unregulated? Ermm.....no.

There's no reason why weed should be illegal, it's pretty damn harmless (it actually has benefits when it comes to diseases) and the risk to other people is minimal. Obviously when it comes to driving and such it should be treated the same as alcohol but aside from that, when's the last time you heard someone attacking someone else because they were high?

When did ANYONE, let alone me, say that 'anything and everything' should be made legal? I'm not saying we should legalise Heroin or coke or whatever. Weed is basically harmless, keeping it classified as an illegal drug just because is completely and utterly pointless.

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Nobody's laughing except you..........perhaps you are a victim also of this scourge....

My sympathies if that is the case.

Maybe one day you'll actually have a point to make, dear.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Well on more realistic level the powers that be will never legalise cannabis because they know it would have a pernicious affect on Society , turning an already lazy workforce into goodness knows what.

For that reason alone govts don't want half the Country's workforce on sedation.

I can guarantee that more people skip work due to alchohol than weed.I've know quite a few people who smoke a J on their breaks.People smoke every night and go to work fine the next day.How many people pull sickies with a hangover?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I can guarantee that more people skip work due to alchohol than weed.I've know quite a few people who smoke a J on their breaks.People smoke every night and go to work fine the next day.How many people pull sickies with a hangover?

booze does enormous damage I agree, its dirt cheap in the supermarket, no one is regulating these rabid alcoholics, its rife , the advertising should be regulated tighter far tighter and kids should be taught about the massive dangers, which they are not. meanwhile it costs the nhs billions

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by the truth

booze does enormous damage I agree, its dirt cheap in the supermarket, no one is regulating these rabid alcoholics, its rife , the advertising should be regulated tighter far tighter and kids should be taught about the massive dangers, which they are not. meanwhile it costs the nhs billions

don't forget - they who buy it are paing tax on it - therefor funding own treatment.

[Anaesthesia]

Here's my take though.I'm a middle class professional, and I mix with a range of other middle class professionals (doctors, lawyers, programmers...) and we all use MJ. More often than not because of work stress and needing to sleep, and not enjoying alcohol and its effects.

When we're all together at a party or BBQ and playing a silly parlour game like Words against Humanity it can be really funny because everyone's inhibitions are down and it's just fun.

On a creative scale it can also be wonderful, if you write then you'll get some amazing ideas. Just remember to write them down.

Never been attacked by anyone on MJ, but have been assaulted by drunks on too many occasions to count. Legalise MJ, get rid of alcohol.

[Anaesthesia]

And on what basis.

[lostalex]

i hate being high. it makes me feel like ****, and dizzy, and paranoid... but i totally support everyone else's right to do it.

it's about time they started paying taxes.

[Will.]

I would sign it

[Kizzy]

Haha of course they'll legalise it if they can tax it, you can already be stopped for 'drug driving' so it's the next logical step I guess.
So it relaxes you... so does diazapam

[waterhog]

i am sure if stopped while driving under the influence of that as well you will be done.

[Kizzy]

If drug driving is a thing then does the vehicular manslaughter label not apply to cannabis too?
Will legalising lessen the associated risk? As said 2 wrongs don't make a right, it's available to those who need it and tolerated for personal use, only mass production of skunk is still investigated.

[waterhog]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh you no your stuff miss.

[Daniel.]

I don't even smoke it often as I have class but the smell slays me here for it smothering the streets