[Josy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Agree with this tbh


Also I don't understand why the private queries forum was removed, just ban the few that abused it from using, why have the minority's ruin it for the majority when there's an easy solution for it

It was actually the majority that ruined it not the minority.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Josy

It was actually the majority that ruined it not the minority.

Well keep if for the minority that didn't abuse it then



Also kizzy can you stop brining your personal **** into the thread you're gonna end up getting it closed

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Well keep if for the minority that didn't abuse it then



Also kizzy can you stop brining your personal **** into the thread you're gonna end up getting it closed

There was no point when most were abusing it. And we find it works better without it.

Just to add, I liked the appeals section.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Also kizzy can you stop brining your personal **** into the thread you're gonna end up getting it closed

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Well keep if for the minority that didn't abuse it then



Also kizzy can you stop brining your personal **** into the thread you're gonna end up getting it closed

I'll ask what I like smithy, as is everyone.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

It was actually the majority that ruined it not the minority.

Why not make it a private thing like the chat threads, for established members.
Wouldn't they be less likely to get offensive to moderators?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why not make it a private thing like the chat threads, for established members.
Wouldn't they be less likely to get offensive to moderators?

It was established members that used it, rarely did an on season or newer member post in there or were even aware of it being there.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Agree with this tbh


Also I don't understand why the private queries forum was removed, just ban the few that abused it from using, why have the minority's ruin it for the majority when there's an easy solution for it

they would probably ban me from it, because i had many of my infractions overturned in there, and the mods that have their infractions overruled get very pissed off and then think i'm manipulative and blah blah.

But the truth is i'm not a bad person, and i'm not a troll. Yes i say some offensive things and i am controversial and confrontational, but i usually follow the rules.

The problem is the rules are not clear, and they basically just depend on who is offended by any given thing.

If i talk about sex, i'm corrupting younger members, if someone else makes a joke about sex, nothing.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

The problem is the rules are not clear, and they basically just depend on who is offended by any given thing.

I definitely agree with this, I've asked previously for a more clear, harsher infraction system to be put into place but nothing came of it because it wouldn't work apparently, but if people know how many points they're going to get for certain rule breaks I think it would curb it, especially if bans were longer

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Agree with this tbh


Also I don't understand why the private queries forum was removed, just ban the few that abused it from using, why have the minority's ruin it for the majority when there's an easy solution for it

We actually have guidelines for infractions. This is the screen we see when we infract people.



There's not many infractions that veer outside those point allocations. Most of the mods are different which is why we moderate ourselves so well but our approaches when it comes to infractions are the same because we all infract people using the same guidelines.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

We actually have guidelines for infractions. This is the screen we see when we infract people.



There's not many infractions that veer outside those point allocations. Most of the mods are different which is why we moderate ourselves so well but our approaches when it comes to infractions are the same because we all infract people using the same guidelines.

Infractions Active 1/56
Points: 20

custom infractions like this are ridiculous though, and like josy said, not everything is in the rules so mods have to use thier own initiative, I imagine most of the infractions handed out aren't even on that list because it's usually stuff like "causing drama" "didn't drop it etc" which are all custom infractions and are given out at varying levels depending on the mod, plus why are there 4 different ones for insults

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Infractions Active 1/56
Points: 20

custom infractions like this are ridiculous though, and like josy said, not everything is in the rules so mods have to use thier own initiative, I imagine most of the infractions handed out aren't even on that list because it's usually stuff like "causing drama" "didn't drop it etc" which are all custom infractions and are given out at varying levels depending on the mod, plus why are there 4 different ones for insults

Yeah I'm not a fan of custom infractions, we should all play by the rules.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Infractions Active 1/56
Points: 20

custom infractions like this are ridiculous though, and like josy said, not everything is in the rules so mods have to use thier own initiative, I imagine most of the infractions handed out aren't even on that list because it's usually stuff like "causing drama" "didn't drop it etc" which are all custom infractions and are given out at varying levels depending on the mod, plus why are there 4 different ones for insults

Not depending on the mod, depending on the member and their previous infractions and rule breaks.

If you have multiple infractions for insulting people then you do it again the infractions points will likely be higher.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Infractions Active 1/56
Points: 20

custom infractions like this are ridiculous though, and like josy said, not everything is in the rules so mods have to use thier own initiative, I imagine most of the infractions handed out aren't even on that list because it's usually stuff like "causing drama" "didn't drop it etc" which are all custom infractions and are given out at varying levels depending on the mod, plus why are there 4 different ones for insults

The premade infractions are just generic examples to give us an idea of point allocation, if we create a custom infraction, say for causing drama then we'll use a similar amount of points to the 'insults to other members' infraction. If you repeat the same offense then you'll get more infraction points which is why there's multiple 'insult' infractions with higher points. It's a guide line of how many points we should hand out, not a rigid template of what we should infract people for.

[lostalex]

that being said, I'd say that I probably deserved about 75% of the infractions i've gotten. But those 25% of infractions that i didn't deserve really burn my balls.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

that being said, I'd say that I probably deserved about 75% of the infractions i've gotten. But those 25% of infractions that i didn't deserve really burn my balls.

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[Tom4784]

People just used the appeals section to bitch and whine, it was meant to be used for when you have a legitimate issue with an infraction or a mod's actions but there was only a handful of times when it was used for that. People would just use it to abuse the mods.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

People just used the appeals section to bitch and whine, it was meant to be used for when you have a legitimate issue with an infraction or a mod's actions but there was only a handful of times when it was used for that. People would just use it to abuse the mods.

was it Sexual?

[Josy]

Alex I just double checked with James and he confirmed that the anonymous infraction system was brought in 1 month before you joined the forum, so you have never received an infraction from a named mod.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Josy

Alex I just double checked with James and he confirmed that the anonymous infraction system was brought in 1 month before you joined the forum, so you have never received an infraction from a named mod.

well maybe that's true, and maybe it's because i got warnings from certain mods and warnings did have names on it, or maybe it's just because you see certain mods hovering around certain forums and you just know who it is that way.

[Ashley.]

We need a Tribunal tbh

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

We need a Tribunal tbh

We kind of already do, mods do discuss infractions if they feel they are unjust.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

We kind of already do, mods do discuss infractions if they feel they are unjust.

Just from experience when I was banned, I wasn't really given a chance to speak for myself. Nothing really gets discussed anymore and when I attempt to discuss things with mods, it's never reciprocated. They try to avoid confronting the issue in a lot of my cases.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Just from experience when I was banned, I wasn't really given a chance to speak for myself. Nothing really gets discussed anymore and when I attempt to discuss things with mods, it's never reciprocated.

Because we all thought it was a fair infraction. If it wasn't it would have been overturned quickly.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Because we all thought it was a fair infraction. If it wasn't it would have been overturned quickly.

It was the reason for the ban that got to me. I thought, if anything, that post would've got me infracted because I was mentioning religion but apparently I was making fun of the moderators so I didn't really get it. It's just further proof that anything you say on here can get maliciously turned into something that wasn't intended in the first place.