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Crimson Dynamo · 08-12-2015, 01:29 PM

It has to be Andy Murray

EspeonBB · 08-12-2015, 01:50 PM

He's a ****.

And for people defending him using freedom of speech, yes he does but everyone else also has freedom to criticize him for his statements and the right to be offended. It works both ways.

Cherie · 08-12-2015, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dasherleyne

He's a ****.

And for people defending him using freedom of speech, yes he does but everyone else also has freedom to criticize him for his statements and the right to be offended. It works both ways.

No one has said on this thread that you can't voice your opinion, people want Fury removed from a sports award ceremony because they don't agree with his

bots · 08-12-2015, 01:53 PM

I just can't get excited about it, the guy is a prize knob, and the sports personality of the year is a non award of zero significance. Its got about as much relevance as crowning someone king/queen of the jungle.

Jack_ · 08-12-2015, 03:04 PM

What's ****ing astounding here is that very often on this forum people make the argument that certain people shouldn't win Big Brother (or other reality shows for that matter) because they're not very nice people, have said or done twattish things, and that as a result it would be 'immoral' if they won, and so should be evicted far in advance of that point.

Bearing in mind that mentality is in the context of a ****ing television programme of which its result will have no effect on its viewers, or any kind of cultural impact, just said person being financially rewarded (as if there aren't already thousands of ***** around the world making money they don't deserve). Yet here is an award that is culturally significant, does reflect a nation's beliefs, can endorse certain values and influence people as a result - and we're told it's perfectly okay for us to brush his comments under the carpet, pretend it's irrelevant and continue to support both his nomination and hypothetical win.

What an absolutely ****ing ludicrous display of misplaced priorities and supposed 'morality'. This forum never ceases to amaze me

Crimson Dynamo · 08-12-2015, 03:12 PM

Its not the prize or award its the fact its the BBC's flagship sports show and its a celebration of all sporting prowess this year

Can anyone really see the auditorium standing clapping if TF gets up to get his award from Sue?

I cant

For a start Sue should be at home making tea

Cherie · 08-12-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

Its not the prize or award its the fact its the BBC's flagship sports show and its a celebration of all sporting prowess this year

Can anyone really see the auditorium standing clapping if TF gets up to get his award from Sue?

I cant

For a start Sue should be at home making tea

Maybe she will offer him a cup ...

Niamh. · 08-12-2015, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

Its not the prize or award its the fact its the BBC's flagship sports show and its a celebration of all sporting prowess this year

Can anyone really see the auditorium standing clapping if TF gets up to get his award from Sue?

I cant

For a start Sue should be at home making tea

That's funny but it actually illustrates the problem with him very very well

Cherie · 08-12-2015, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

That's funny but it actually illustrates the problem with him very very well

Is that not part of traveller culture though, the women keep the house and the men are breadwinners? Who are we to judge other people for their beliefs and what works in their cultures

Niamh. · 08-12-2015, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

Is that not part of traveller culture though, the women keep the house and the men are breadwinners? Who are we to judge other people for their beliefs and what works in their cultures

I can judge all I like thank you very much, it may be their culture but he's still saying a womans place is in the kitchen or on her back and as a woman I find that offensive whether his wife minds him saying it or not

Just because people have different cultures doesn't mean I have to like or agree with them. What about the practice of female genital mutilation, should I respect that also?

Cherie · 08-12-2015, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

I can judge all I like thank you very much, it may be their culture but he's still saying a womans place is in the kitchen or on her back and as a woman I find that offensive whether his wife minds him saying it or not

Just because people have different cultures doesn't mean I have to like or agree with them. What about the practice of female genital mutilation, should I respect that also?

I'm not saying you have to agree with them I'm saying he is entitled to his opinion, I. Not saying it's right but we can't have free speech just for stuff we agree with and no free speech for alternate views, he is not harming me with his views is he harming you?

Dollface · 08-12-2015, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

Is that not part of traveller culture though, the women keep the house and the men are breadwinners? Who are we to judge other people for their beliefs and what works in their cultures

Of course we can judge him for it, whether it's a part of his culture or not.

Crimson Dynamo · 08-12-2015, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

Is that not part of traveller culture though, the women keep the house and the men are breadwinners? Who are we to judge other people for their beliefs and what works in their cultures

yes they men all go out and do their 9-5 office jobs..

Cherie · 08-12-2015, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

yes they men all go out and do their 9-5 office jobs..

If you say so!

Dollface · 08-12-2015, 03:14 PM

Ew @ him tbh

Brother Leon · 08-12-2015, 03:16 PM

So Murray should win instead as Fury has a crap personality...what? Lol

Cherie · 08-12-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FergieWonderland

So Murray should win instead as Fury has a crap personality...what? Lol

Andy personality Murray I wouldn't mind but he wasn't exactly popular in England after his anti English comments until he won the Olympics

Tom4784 · 08-12-2015, 03:40 PM

'It's their culture' isn't an excuse for backwards thinking, also it's offensive to suggest that the entire traveler community is as bigoted as this fool.

Cherie · 08-12-2015, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

'It's their culture' isn't an excuse for backwards thinking, also it's offensive to suggest that the entire traveler community is as bigoted as this fool.

Yet it's fine for Muslims to have backwards thinking apparently as you are always defending their right to this and that

Tom4784 · 08-12-2015, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

Yet it's fine for Muslims to have backwards thinking apparently as you are always defending their right to this and that

Proof? Go on. Find me proof. You won't because I've never said anything like that. I would never defend anyone who says the **** that Fury has.

Get your facts right in future because that was a pathetic attempt at trying to drag me.

Cherie · 08-12-2015, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Proof? Go on. Find me proof. You won't because I've never said anything like that. I would never defend anyone who says the **** that Fury has.

Get your facts right in future because that was a pathetic attempt at trying to drag me.

I don't need to drag you, you defend Muslims all the time, these would be the same people who if they follow their faith correctly frown on homosexuality, arrange marriages, not allow women to be in the same room as men on certain occasions etc etc similar culture to travellers really

Tom4784 · 08-12-2015, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

I don't need to drag you, you defend Muslims all the time, these would be the same people who if they follow their faith correctly frown on homosexuality, arrange marriages, not allow women to be in the same room as men on certain occasions etc etc similar culture to travellers really

Reading comprehension is important, Cherie.

Saying that I don't believe all Muslims should be accountable for the actions of a few isn't the same as saying that I agree with the practices of the few in question and it's got absolutely nothing to do with you essentially branding travelers as sexist bigots and that that's okay because it's 'part of their culture.'

You must be quite desperate to get one over on me to make such a silly leap of logic.

Kizzy · 08-12-2015, 03:50 PM

Then there needs to be a traveller revolt, those women who don't want to be just wives should say so, that's all it would take :/
As for his religious views he's not alone in that thinking is he? and even though things are changing it's at a slower rate in some places than others.
Maybe his achievements are great but I wouldn't say his off screen persona warrants 'personality' of the year in all honesty.

kirklancaster · 08-12-2015, 04:00 PM

And Lewis Hamilton is more deserving of a place in the line up than Fury?

He CHEATED during the Australian Grand Prix in 2009.

He CHEATED during his relationship with Nicole Scherzinger.

Fury might spout bollocks but he is a loving Father and husband who DOTES on his wife and kids.

I don't see anyone onjecting to Hamilton being in the contest.

Crimson Dynamo · 08-12-2015, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

And Lewis Hamilton is more deserving of a place in the line up than Fury?

He CHEATED during the Australian Grand Prix in 2009.

He CHEATED during his relationship with Nicole Scherzinger.

Fury might spout bollocks but he is a loving Father and husband who DOTES on his wife and kids.

I don't see anyone onjecting to Hamilton being in the contest.

you have no idea what type of father he is

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