[Calderyon]

If any other man or woman was in Tiffany´s place, he/she would be lynched.

But because it´s Tiffany, she is going to be praised.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

If any other man or woman was in Tiffany´s place, he/she would be lynched.

But because it´s Tiffany, she is going to be praised.

Very true !! Steph has been blasted around this forum for cuddling up with Jeremy,she's never slept in his bed ,as far as been shown she's never pulled his underpants down,she's never played with his old man in the shower (and he's not in half a relationship like Scott is ) but its ok for the swanky cow to do it, in fact its funny !!!

[Alf]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

I can't even begin to wrap my head around these kinds of views. I thought you people were a myth.

You can't wrap your head around it because your mind has been poisoned by years of leftie liberal hypocritical media.

It's not your fault and your not alone, everything we do in life comes from influence.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Tbf Scotty was the one flashing her in the garden and sticking his head in her boobs, it wasn't all one sided, that's the difference. Also people saying she's a much older woman and they're young guys? There isn't that much of an age gap between her and Scotty, he's 27 and she's 34

He wasn't flashing her, he was flashing Jeremy, she ASKED him to show her it, big difference

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Trasadkel1

Agree and if it had been a man doing the same thing I very much doubt if he would have still been in the house.

People have been removed from the house for far less

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He wasn't flashing her, he was flashing Jeremy, she ASKED him to show her it, big difference

And he had no issue in doing so, so what's the problem?

[reece(:]

This thread is doing the most.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

And he had no issue in doing so, so what's the problem?

Double standards,if she was a pretty white,English girl this place would be in uproar

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Double standards

How? Also you missed out the point in Niamhs post that Scotty put his face in her boobs before any of that even happened.

[White_L10N]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

I can't even begin to wrap my head around these kinds of views. I thought you people were a myth.

If you have something to say. Feel free. I'm open to opinions rather than bigotted remarks.

[JoshBB]

Okay so

1) False equivalency. Google it.

2) Talking 'too openly' about sex is not sexist, regardless of the gender of the person doing it. Unless they are talking about the other gender as if they are below their own, it is not sexist. Just a bit weird.

[White_L10N]

Originally Posted by wannashag

You can't wrap your head around it because your mind has been poisoned by years of leftie liberal hypocritical media.

It's not your fault and your not alone, everything we do in life comes from influence.

I actually am leftie liberal funnily enough lol I'd suggest the media are righty authoritarian. People should be free to express themselves in whatever way they feel like expressing themselves. However, when one group of people seemingly see themselves as priveledged... male or female. I feel obligated to point it out. As per this post. I'm glad you agree with my comment though. Very open minded.

[White_L10N]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Okay so

1) False equivalency. Google it.

2) Talking 'too openly' about sex is not sexist, regardless of the gender of the person doing it. Unless they are talking about the other gender as if they are below their own, it is not sexist. Just a bit weird.

I don't believe it is sexist to talk openly about your feelings and desires. What is sexist is the fact the female gender, in this situation, appears to be able to act in a more overtly sexual manner without being labeled as a man would. Winston being an example.

[Northern Monkey]

I did'nt see Scotty T complaining or saying no.If he'd said 'Howay man i'm in the shuwer wi mi barls oot.Gan oot nah' and she'd continued then yeah she should be removed.But that did'nt happen.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by White_L10N

I don't believe it is sexist to talk openly about your feelings and desires. What is sexist is the fact the female gender, in this situation, appears to be able to act in a more overtly sexual manner without being labeled as a man would. Winston being an example.

Dead right !!

[Samm]

Not gonna bother since some people avoid certain key posts that point out that they're wrong and carrying on so

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I did'nt see Scotty T complaining or saying no.If he'd said 'Howay man i'm in the shuwer wi mi barls oot.Gan oot nah' and she'd continued then yeah she should be removed.But that did'nt happen.

That really made me laugh

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I did'nt see Scotty T complaining or saying no.If he'd said 'Howay man i'm in the shuwer wi mi barls oot.Gan oot nah' and she'd continued then yeah she should be removed.But that did'nt happen.

[wendywillow]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

How? Also you missed out the point in Niamhs post that Scotty put his face in her boobs before any of that even happened.

stop making sense, no one wants that here

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I did'nt see Scotty T complaining or saying no.If he'd said 'Howay man i'm in the shuwer wi mi barls oot.Gan oot nah' and she'd continued then yeah she should be removed.But that did'nt happen.

You're great at Geordie Shore speak!

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It was said in the diary room why would it have been more threatening and less in fun if it was Ken instead of Tiffany who offered comfort by opening their legs?

Because Tiff was saying it about people who were physically stronger than her whilst not having a tool that could penetrate the weaker person. There was no way that what Tiff said could have had sinister undertones unless, like you, you add a buttload of 'what if' hypothetical situations which would completely change the context of the thing that happened.

What happened was - nothing - and twisting the context until you find a way to be offended is senseless.

[Ammi]

..Northern Monkey, your Scotty T impersonation LOL.....

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Jeremy and Scotty t seemed very into the kissing thing and showing her their bits last night Looked like they were all just having a bit of a laugh tbh

...yeah, not only thoroughly enjoying it but Scotty has been giving Jeremy and Steph a few 'longing' looks when they've been snuggling and kissing in bed, sine Megan left I've noticed...that young man is feeling a bit sexy/sexy and very frustrated .....I think with Jeremy, although he has Steph to snuggle up to, it's all feeling a bit too intense and not much fun to him and boys just wanna have fun, which is also the same with Tiffany...she's been a bit 'out of it' with the young single ladies and the first opportunity to have a bit of fun and sexy/sexy herself.... all of them just 3 single people having a bit of fun and desperately needing it...because it's a huge part of what housemates go into the house for as well/hope to have, but it often becomes too series and 'drama', tension etc very quickly....

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Because Tiff was saying it about people who were physically stronger than her whilst not having a tool that could penetrate the weaker person. There was no way that what Tiff said could have had sinister undertones unless, like you, you add a buttload of 'what if' hypothetical situations which would completely change the context of the thing that happened.

What happened was - nothing - and twisting the context until you find a way to be offended is senseless.

I'm not offended I'm pointing out as per the thread that double standards do come into play for people depending on who is saying it. You are assuming Tiffany is weaker than those she is coming on to and Ken is stronger when actually he's a fairly old guy, how can you know the girls in question couldn't throttle him? I'm a woman and I do think that sometimes there are double standards on behaviour and women can be a cut a lot more slack than men on what is and isn't appropriate. Not a Ken fan, but I thought he was a fairly good comparison. If we are emancipated then that doesn't mean men can't sneeze without being accused of being inappropriate it means we are, or should be equals. By those standards really what Tiffany said in the diary room was as inappropriate as anything Ken said and she should probably be given a warning.

[Marsh.]

"If Tiff was a man..."

Well she's not


/end thread

[Tom4784]

Everything she did with Scotty and Jeremy was completely consensual, that's the difference between Tiffany and the male HMs that got warnings or kicked out for sexual harassment. Scotty T and Jeremy liked and wanted the night's activities to continue, People like Chloe, Nancy, Joel and others didn't want none of that from the likes of Jeremy, Winston and Aaron. That's the difference.

It's kind of troubling that some people can't seem to tell the difference.