[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Raph

Kelsey makes me miss Ashleigh BBCAN3

Ashleigh getting rid of Brittnee still remains iconic though

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Raph

Oh I forgot And haha yeah I'm just too much of a direhard fan that I HATE showmances. And on the feeds she has ZERO game and just ughh I hate mean girls. Good to see her going down your rankings though I like everyone you have above her too!

Being a diehard fan and nothing to do with hating showmances though lmao and I'm pretty sure you love Jemmett so I'm confused.

Oh well, this post is gonna fall on deaf ears I'm sure because you and LukeB have picked Kelsey as your annual pet hate woman that you write endless hate posts about even though she's largely inoffensive, all because you think she's a recruit based off of a ninety second audition tape and the fact that she was nominated against your pre-season fave. This feels like a self-parody.

[Jason.]

Episode 2: Paige Evicted / Wildcards Enter

1. Nikki
2. Sharry
3. Paige
4. Loveita
5. Cassandra
6. Ramsey
7. Kelsey
8. Tim
9. Mitch
10. Christine
11. Dallas
12. Maddy
13. Raul
14. Joel
15. Jared
16. Nick & Phillipe

[Jason.]

I wasn't really expecting to like Loveita, but she's okay. Not one of my favourites, but she's good and I liked her in this episode.

I don't really get the Kelsey hate. She hasn't really done anything wrong or been particularly nasty to warrant such dislike. And that's coming from someone who would've much preferred her to be evicted over Paige (who went far too soon btw). I can tell there's going to be some sort of divisive Kelsey vs. Maddy fanwars brewing. But judging by the first two episodes, I'm leaning more towards Kelsey. I'm finding Maddy quite dull tbh and she hasn't really done anything - the only airtime she has gotten is when she called Kelsey fake in the premiere (yeah I just realised it's not called launch )

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Jason.

I don't really get the Kelsey hate. She hasn't really done anything wrong or been particularly nasty to warrant such dislike. And that's coming from someone who would've much preferred her to be evicted over Paige (who went far too soon btw). I can tell there's going to be some sort of divisive Kelsey vs. Maddy fanwars brewing. But judging by the first two episodes, I'm leaning more towards Kelsey. I'm finding Maddy quite dull tbh and she hasn't really done anything - the only airtime she has gotten is when she called Kelsey fake in the premiere (yeah I just realised it's not called launch )

100% agree with this.

[LukeB]

Jason you need to watch the feeds, Kelsey is vile, she's intimating Nikki and being mean to loads of people,

[Ross.]

The way Kelsey acts on the feeds is what I'm thinking the main reason is for the dislike, I wasn't a fan of her in the show anyway but the feeds have solidified my dislike.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Ross.

The way Kelsey acts on the feeds is what I'm thinking the main reason is for the dislike, I wasn't a fan of her in the show anyway but the feeds have solidified my dislike.

I don't think that's true, people were hating on her before the feeds started and there was nothing nasty or particularly unpleasant from her in those first two episodes.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I don't think that's true, people were hating on her before the feeds started and there was nothing nasty or particularly unpleasant from her in those first two episodes.

It was only me and Raph who weren't keen on her before the show but the feeds got her more haters really

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I don't think that's true, people were hating on her before the feeds started and there was nothing nasty or particularly unpleasant from her in those first two episodes.

I disagree, in my opinion she didn't come across as a particularly nice person in the episode. That's just me. It's just the impression I got from her. You could blame that on the edit or w/e but once the feeds began I was absolutely sure I didn't like her

Unrelated to your post but my dislike for Kelsey doesn't stem from this recruit vs. super fan nonsense either nor does it come from me being on "Team Maddy" as I really couldn't care less for both tbh

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I don't think that's true, people were hating on her before the feeds started and there was nothing nasty or particularly unpleasant from her in those first two episodes.

yeah some people have been firmly against Kelsey since the cast was released bc she seemed like a dumb basic recruit or whatever. And then she introduced herself as a flight attendant in the premiere and Maddy had that DR and people were acting like Maddy was entirely righteous based off of absolutely nothing

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Ross.

I disagree, in my opinion she didn't come across as a particularly nice person in the episode. That's just me. It's just the impression I got from her. You could blame that on the edit or w/e but once the feeds began I was absolutely sure I didn't like her

Unrelated to your post but my dislike for Kelsey doesn't stem from this recruit vs. super fan nonsense either nor does it come from me being on "Team Maddy" as I really couldn't care less for both tbh

What did she do in particular in the first two episodes that made her come across as not a nice person?

I can't point out anything nasty or malicious that she has done so far. I mean I can see the flaws in some of my favourites (not that she is one) (see CBB16) who aren't particularly popular and are criticized for being nasty / a bully / not a nice person etc and I understand why people would think that. But not being nice isn't really a trait I'd label Kelsey with. If anything, she's been quite vanilla and hasn't really done much at all to provoke a positive or negative reaction. She's just there to me. Live feed is a completely different story, I'm talking about the two shows that have already aired.

[Morgan.]

Season 4, Episode 2
1) Nikki
2) Tim
3) Jared
4) Raul
5) Sharry
6) Loveita
7) Paige - Evicted
8) Mitchell
9) Dallas
10) Ramsey
11) Nick and Phillipe
12) Joel
13) Christine
14) Cassandra
15) Kelsey - Saved
16) Maddy

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Ross.

I disagree, in my opinion she didn't come across as a particularly nice person in the episode. That's just me. It's just the impression I got from her. You could blame that on the edit or w/e but once the feeds began I was absolutely sure I didn't like her

Unrelated to your post but my dislike for Kelsey doesn't stem from this recruit vs. super fan nonsense either nor does it come from me being on "Team Maddy" as I really couldn't care less for both tbh

I dislike her because she's a mean girl, simple as. Nothing to do with Team Maddy, or recruits v superfans either. Well said Ross!

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Jason.

I wasn't really expecting to like Loveita, but she's okay. Not one of my favourites, but she's good and I liked her in this episode.

I don't really get the Kelsey hate. She hasn't really done anything wrong or been particularly nasty to warrant such dislike. And that's coming from someone who would've much preferred her to be evicted over Paige (who went far too soon btw). I can tell there's going to be some sort of divisive Kelsey vs. Maddy fanwars brewing. But judging by the first two episodes, I'm leaning more towards Kelsey. I'm finding Maddy quite dull tbh and she hasn't really done anything - the only airtime she has gotten is when she called Kelsey fake in the premiere (yeah I just realised it's not called launch )

Actually if you watch the feeds Maddy is closer now to Kelsey than Sharry and crew now. Also she's spent the last 3 hours bitching about people non-stop. Further, after Loveita nominated her, she didn't speak to her for three days straight. She's mean, catty and is playing the game terribly. You should watch the feeds Jason, you'll see what we all mean!

[Jason.]

How do you watch the feeds? Ik you need a VPN but...

And I don't really have much time to watch them for a long period of time but I'll check them out sometime.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Jason.

What did she do in particular in the first two episodes that made her come across as not a nice person?

She said "Hi I'm Kelsey, I'm twenty-five and I'm a flight attendant" or something to that effect

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Jason.

How do you watch the feeds? Ik you need a VPN but...

And I don't really have much time to watch them for a long period of time but I'll check them out sometime.

You can use Hola and if you use google chrome the main website works

[Pete.]

Episodes 1 & 2:
1. Nikki
2. Sharry
3. Paige
4. Cassandra
5. Loveita
6. Maddy
7. Xtine
8. Tim
9. Mitch
10. Ramsay
11. Kelsey
12. Raul
13. Joel
14. Dallas
15. Jared
16. Tragic Brothers

[Raph]

On point top 10

[EspeonBB]

After the first two episodes and a bit of feed watching:
1. Nikki
2. Sharry
3. Ramsey
4. Cassandra
5. Loveita
(Paige)
6. Christine
7. Tim
8. Mitch
9. Maddy
10. Dallas
11. Joel
12. Nick & Philippe
13. Kelsey
14. Raul
15. Jared

I like the top 5 (and Paige) and dislike the bottom 2. I don't really have an opinion on the others yet

[Daniel-X]

Originally Posted by Daniel-X

Launch:

1. Christine
2. Cassandra
3. Paige
4. Loveita
5. Sharry
6. Raul
7. Ramsey
8. Kelsey
9. Nick and Phillipe
10. Dallas
11. Jared
12. Mitch
13. Joel
14. Maddy

Episode 2:

1. Loveita (+3)
2. Sharry (+3)
3. Nikki (NEW)
4. Paige (-1) - EVICTED
5. Cassandra (-3)
6. Christine (-5)
7. Ramsey (-)
8. Kelsey (-)
9. Raul (-3)
10. Tim (NEW)
11. Mitch (+1)
12. Dallas (-2)
13. Nick and Phillipe (-4) (Because of Nick)
14. Joel (-1)
15. Maddy (-1)
16. Jared (-5)

[Headie]

Week 1 - Paige Evicted

1. Nikki
2. Loveita
3. Sharry
4. Tim
5. Paige
6. Ramsey
7. Christine
8. Maddy
9. Mitch
10. Cassandra
11. Joel
12. Dallas
13. Kelsey
14. Phillippe & Nick
15. Raul
16. Jared

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Episode 2/Some Live Feeds
1.Sharry
2.Nikki
3.Mitch
4.Cassandra
5.Maddy
6.Tim
7.Dallas
8.Christine
9.Ramsey
10.Loveita
11.Jared
12.Nick/Philippe
13.Joel
14.Raul
15.Kelsey

After Some Feeds
1.Nikki
2.Sharry
3.Ramsey
4.Tim
5.Maddy
6.Loveita
7.Mitch
8.Cassandra
9.Joel
10.Nick
11.Christine
12Phillippe
13.Jared
14.Dallas
15.Raul
16.Kelsey

[reece(:]

1. Nikki
2. Tim
3. Sharry
4. Cassandra
5. Loveita
6. Ramsey
7. Joel
8. Philippe
9. Christine
10. Mitch
11. Kelsey
12. Rob
13. Jared
14. Dallas
15. Raul
16. Maddy