[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Where we live in France, everything is closed on a Sunday and the church bells ring out all day long, so even if your not religious, you're constantly reminded you should be.

I never go shopping on a Sunday in the UK, not that I'm religious but because I've always been in the habit of planning a family day. Its just an 'us' sort of day I suppose and anyway, by 4pm I'm starting to prepare a family roast and a jam roly poly with custard.

When I lived in France for 3 months (with my then-fiancée, in her University halls on her year abroad) the town was totally shut down all weekend to the extent that if you didn't have food in, you were basically screwed. No church bells though... instead... every two weeks, they would test the air raid sirens! I liked to pretend it was the apocalypse .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

When I lived in France for 3 months (with my then-fiancée, in her University halls on her year abroad) the town was totally shut down all weekend to the extent that if you didn't have food in, you were basically screwed. No church bells though... instead... every two weeks, they would test the air raid sirens! I liked to pretend it was the apocalypse .

They do the same in Spain (obviously not the holiday/tourist spots)

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They do the same in Spain (obviously not the holiday/tourist spots)

Yeah it was a non-touristy area. No one spoke English and I lived in fear of getting "lost" like a toddler, as whilst my wife is a fluent French speaker, my French is... err... basic, at best

"Playyys haaalp"

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah it was a non-touristy area. No one spoke English and I lived in fear of getting "lost" like a toddler, as whilst my wife is a fluent French speaker, my French is... err... basic, at best

"Playyys haaalp"

One time me and my husband got the ferry to Roscoff and drove all the way through France into Spain. We went out for dinner in some town in France and neither of us spoke much french so i had this translator thing I'd bought in Lidl and started entering words from the menu, first one was "Slide" second one was "backpacker" .............

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

When I lived in France for 3 months (with my then-fiancée, in her University halls on her year abroad) the town was totally shut down all weekend to the extent that if you didn't have food in, you were basically screwed. No church bells though... instead... every two weeks, they would test the air raid sirens! I liked to pretend it was the apocalypse .

I pretend that sometimes when I'm in bed on the boat and the winds howling. Gives me some sort of sick comfort

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

When I lived in France for 3 months (with my then-fiancée, in her University halls on her year abroad) the town was totally shut down all weekend to the extent that if you didn't have food in, you were basically screwed. No church bells though... instead... every two weeks, they would test the air raid sirens! I liked to pretend it was the apocalypse .

How Nice

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

When I lived in France for 3 months (with my then-fiancée, in her University halls on her year abroad) the town was totally shut down all weekend to the extent that if you didn't have food in, you were basically screwed. No church bells though... instead... every two weeks, they would test the air raid sirens! I liked to pretend it was the apocalypse .

Sounds more fun than when i was in Egypt and you heard all the yabbering from the mosques at high volumes five times a day.I did'nt like to let my imagination run wild with that going on

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Sounds more fun than when i was in Egypt and you heard all the yabbering from the mosques at high volumes five times a day.I did'nt like to let my imagination run wild with that going on

Now that's funny

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Now that's funny

I have my moments

[arista]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Where we live in France, everything is closed on a Sunday and the church bells ring out all day long, so even if your not religious, you're constantly reminded you should be.

I never go shopping on a Sunday in the UK, not that I'm religious but because I've always been in the habit of planning a family day. Its just an 'us' sort of day I suppose and anyway, by 4pm I'm starting to prepare a family roast and a jam roly poly with custard.

Yes I have been in France
Sundays - bad days in France
The Fecking Bells

[Shaun]

I don't really have any preference, should be up to the stores themselves I suppose but then that's opening employees up to all sorts of unmanageable hours. As a consumer I don't particularly care about shops closing early/totally on Sunday as I've enough experience of preparing for that eventuality

[arista]

Hog
all reports are saying they will not get enough votes
Fecking SNP backing Labour
so no change this time.

[arista]

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not enough votes for it
so No Change.


Some Conservative / SNP and Labour all voted No Change to Sundays,

[Cherie]

So the SNP voted against, not to protect workers but to protect the pay rates in Scotland

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

So the SNP voted against, not to protect workers but to protect the pay rates in Scotland

how dare they represent scottish interests

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

how dare they represent scottish interests

I wish Scotland had managed to get enough support for an out vote, sick of Scotland getting special treatment, the latest is that you lot should get your pension earlier than the rest of the UK as you don't live as long, it's not our fault ye live on deep fried mars bars

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I wish Scotland had managed to get enough support for an out vote, sick of Scotland getting special treatment, the latest is that you lot should get your pension earlier than the rest of the UK as you don't live as long, it's not our fault ye live on deep fried mars bars

free prescriptions and no uni fees

[Kizzy]

Shame tory MPs chose this vote to rebel at and not the ESA vote

[MTVN]

I don't see why it would affect the pay in Scotland anyway seeing as trading laws are devolved and that has meant Scottish workers do enjoy the premium pay on Sundays. If Holyrood could ensure that was the case before then why would a minor change to the law in England and Wales make them unable to do so?

And re the 'tough on retail workers' thing, well retail jobs are set to fall massively over the next few years, allowing Sunday trading would actually reverse that trend and either mean that more jobs become available or at least offer extra hours to those who want it. And in general it would mean busier high streets and more business for retailers and those are clearly positive if you're concerned about retail workers

[joeysteele]

I am glad it was defeated,clearly the SNP had their reasons and they must have been valid as to some crossover for them to be able to.

I think the Govt should realise it was a Conservative MP who brought this amendment,David Burrowes, and good on him for doing so to in my opinion.

[Kizzy]

Retail is set to fall massively...Just what industry sectors will there be to provide jobs in the future? :/

[smudgie]

This is the biggest disadvantage of making Sunday an ordinary working day. The loss of the enhancements.
They have tried (and failed) many a time to take different enhancements away from hubby over the years, he gets half a shift for a quick return..well as they now do 12 hours shifts most overtime covers this, double time on a Saturday night shift..Golden nugget shift, they get 32 hours for it. Time and a half any other overtime.
As more people have started working on a Sunday..and even some Saturday work, the pay just remains the same hourly rate.

[Kizzy]

Once out of the EU and their protections for workers everyone will be on 0hr minimum wage jobs 24/7.
And many have bent over and readily accepted it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Once out of the EU and their protections for workers everyone will be on 0hr minimum wage jobs 24/7.
And many have bent over and readily accepted it.

I don't know that that's necessarily true, 0 hour contracts are possible and already exist and most companies in most situations choose not to use them. In "high staff" situations like a supermarket, yes, but (for example) a place like mine with only 6 permanent staff (two of those part-time) it's beneficial to have people contracted into a set number of obligated hours. Otherwise, as soon as one or two people decide they don't want to work many hours that week (and they are not contractually obligated to work), you have a major staffing issue.

It is already the case, however, that for non-management grades they would prefer to have a larger number of staff on 20 or 25 hour contracts than a smaller staff all on 40. This is basically, purely and simply, because it's much easier to cover holidays and sickness if you only need to replace half of the hours. Never mind that 20 hours of employment is wholly unsuitable for most people seeking, of course.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't know that that's necessarily true, 0 hour contracts are possible and already exist and most companies in most situations choose not to use them. In "high staff" situations like a supermarket, yes, but (for example) a place like mine with only 6 permanent staff (two of those part-time) it's beneficial to have people contracted into a set number of obligated hours. Otherwise, as soon as one or two people decide they don't want to work many hours that week (and they are not contractually obligated to work), you have a major staffing issue.

It is already the case, however, that for non-management grades they would prefer to have a larger number of staff on 20 or 25 hour contracts than a smaller staff all on 40. This is basically, purely and simply, because it's much easier to cover holidays and sickness if you only need to replace half of the hours. Never mind that 20 hours of employment is wholly unsuitable for most people seeking, of course.

It will become true, the amount of people on these contracts is growing exponentially over 800,000 now across many sectors, Regular contracted hours with securities, holidays, sick pay, overtime and/or increments are becoming a thing of the past.