[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

She chose to go on holiday instead

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

She chose to go on holiday instead

Aw vicky I would've stood in but my nephew got married the same day

[MTVN]

Strangely it is normally the Tories and right of centre accused of undermining the BBC and wanting an all privatised media, not the case in this thread

[billy123]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Strangely it is normally the Tories and right of centre accused of undermining the BBC and wanting an all privatised media, not the case in this thread

I think we all tend to get pigeonholed on here. Politics isnt really a team sport (well it is for some on here which i find really weird) You can only put your support behind a party you find more in common with it would be bizarre to totally agree or disagree with everything any party says or does.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I think we all tend to get pigeonholed on here. Politics isnt really a team sport (well it is for some on here which i find really weird) You can only put your support behind a party you find more in common with it would be bizarre to totally agree or disagree with everything any party says or does.

I agree, it's really frustrating sometimes when people assume your thoughts on every issue just because of a general political leaning.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Strangely it is normally the Tories and right of centre accused of undermining the BBC and wanting an all privatised media, not the case in this thread

Personally I feel the BBC are a tory mouthpiece who are currently over a barrel to keep the licence fee.
I have never seen an anti BBC comment on here (apart from Aristas) due to the BBC being seen as some great British institution (prior to savilegate obv.) There are those who see it as their civic duty to pay the fee and may or may not have the licence framed, what their politics are I don't know, I don't like to pigeonhole people.

[MTVN]

Just making an observation folks

[Kizzy]

Thanks

[joeysteele]

All I know is I was a Conservative until I was 18, I voted Lib Dem in 2010,my first ever general election vote, and am now a firm Labour supporter.
However since realising at aged 13 we had to have one, all through my life to now 24,I have been 100% against the TV licence being necessary in this day and age.

[AnnieK]

I pay my licence fee as I don't want people knocking on my door....I detest council tax far more than licence fees. The government take enough tax off me monthly without another Ł100+ a month to effectively have my bins emptied.

[T*]

The BBC is ****- the only real thing we watch from it since they snatched away BBC3 was GBBO, some interior designer thing on BBC2 and I watch Eurovision annually.
I really don't think we should pay for such garbage and other countries get by just fine without one and also produce excellent TV
It's bizarre

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Tom*

The BBC is ****- the only real thing we watch from it since they snatched away BBC3 was GBBO, some interior designer thing on BBC2 and I watch Eurovision annually.
I really don't think we should pay for such garbage and other countries get by just fine without one and also produce excellent TV
It's bizarre

Pretty much this, oh and EastEnders.

They produce some excellent dramas but so do ITV/CH4.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I pay my licence fee as I don't want people knocking on my door....I detest council tax far more than licence fees. The government take enough tax off me monthly without another Ł100+ a month to effectively have my bins emptied.

Indeed, I thought I was in my own with MTVN in paying the licence fee there for a bit

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Tom*

The BBC is ****- the only real thing we watch from it since they snatched away BBC3 was GBBO, some interior designer thing on BBC2 and I watch Eurovision annually.
I really don't think we should pay for such garbage and other countries get by just fine without one and also produce excellent TV
It's bizarre

The BBC have the best scripted dramas in the UK imo, if you took the License away a lot of people will lose their jobs because they'll be less wages to handout, there will also be a serious culling of shows that might be even slightly expensive, and of course a serious quality drop in the writing department due to less of a budget.

Without the BBC having extra funds to create quality scripted shows, what would the UK have apart from boring Soap Operas and the shadow of the former selves in Reality TV?

I however feel like the BBC could make a bit more shows for my personal tastes, and that there was a way to make quality shows without having to have adverts that go on for 8 minutes (which actually happened when my Nephew was watching Peppa Pig on Nick Jr) it's ridiculous and there's no need for it from these Channels other than pure greed, and it makes it harder for people to get into the episodes of these shows, or in my Nephew's case due to being really young he wants me to turn over to another Cartoon.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I however feel like the BBC could make a bit more shows for my personal tastes, and that there was a way to make quality shows without having to have adverts that go on for 8 minutes (which actually happened when my Nephew was watching Peppa Pig on Nick Jr) it's ridiculous and there's no need for it from these Channels other than pure greed, and it makes it harder for people to get into the episodes of these shows, or in my Nephew's case due to being really young he wants me to turn over to another Cartoon.

There is, it's called Netflix, which has put out more quality scripted television in the last three years than the BBC has in the last 20, to watch whenever you want, with precisely zero ads.

It (or another service) would also snap up the likes of Doctor Who and other popular scripted BBC material in a heartbeat if the BBC was to go under.

The reason that the number and length of ads on commercial television is increasing is that they need to spam more ads to break even, because traditional broadcast telly is dying. There's a very good reason that the BBC is scrabbling to properly monetise iPlayer. Can't come soon enough. Bye bye BBC, bye bye ad breaks, hello 21st century, with on demand viewing of high quality scripted television that isn't reliant on a broken live viewing "ratings system" for survival. Ahhhh.

[edited to add] BTW it has peppa. As does YouTube, which is free! For the love of God, get a smartTV, or at least a Fire Stick or something.

[T*]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There is, it's called Netflix, which has put out more quality scripted television in the last three years than the BBC has in the last 20, to watch whenever you want, with precisely zero ads.

It (or another service) would also snap up the likes of Doctor Who and other popular scripted BBC material in a heartbeat if the BBC was to go under.

The reason that the number and length of ads on commercial television is increasing is that they need to spam more ads to break even, because traditional broadcast telly is dying. There's a very good reason that the BBC is scrabbling to properly monetise iPlayer. Can't come soon enough. Bye bye BBC, bye bye ad breaks, hello 21st century, with on demand viewing of high quality scripted television that isn't reliant on a broken live viewing "ratings system" for survival. Ahhhh.

[edited to add] BTW it has peppa. As does YouTube, which is free! For the love of God, get a smartTV, or at least a Fire Stick or something.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There is, it's called Netflix, which has put out more quality scripted television in the last three years than the BBC has in the last 20, to watch whenever you want, with precisely zero ads.

It (or another service) would also snap up the likes of Doctor Who and other popular scripted BBC material in a heartbeat if the BBC was to go under.

The reason that the number and length of ads on commercial television is increasing is that they need to spam more ads to break even, because traditional broadcast telly is dying. There's a very good reason that the BBC is scrabbling to properly monetise iPlayer. Can't come soon enough. Bye bye BBC, bye bye ad breaks, hello 21st century, with on demand viewing of high quality scripted television that isn't reliant on a broken live viewing "ratings system" for survival. Ahhhh.

[edited to add] BTW it has peppa. As does YouTube, which is free! For the love of God, get a smartTV, or at least a Fire Stick or something.

I watch most of my TV Shows through what some people would call dubious means as I don't have to pay to watch a TV Show that I might not even like, like some of these services like to do.

But I was thinking like a UK version of Netflix's quality.

[MTVN]

Mind you I have no problem with council tax either considering how local government have bore the brunt of so many cutbacks

Just to throw another spanner into the works

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Mind you I have no problem with council tax either considering how local government have bore the brunt of so many cutbacks

Just to throw another spanner into the works

We had 1.60 or something ridiculous added for social care I wouldn't mind I'm paying anyway add a fiver and do a decent job

[Beso]

in my opinion it's not about value for money but more about morals. i mean how can any parent look themselves in the mirror after paying money to a private company whos senior staff has turned a blind eye and allowed paedophilia and paedophiles to flourish and operate in its buildings!

[bots]

Originally Posted by parmnion

in my opinion it's not about value for money but more about morals. i mean how can any parent look themselves in the mirror after paying money to a private company whos senior staff has turned a blind eye and allowed paedophilia and paedophiles to flourish and operate in its buildings!

That's not a problem with the concept of the BBC though, that's individuals that will change over time.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

That's not a problem with the concept of the BBC though, that's individuals that will change over time.

it shouldn't be given the chance.

[billy123]

The time for the BBC to move to a subscription model is well overdue.
The outdated institution that is the BBC is hastening the death of broadcast TV the sooner it buggers off to a subscription only service the better. I have no interest in anything they have to offer purely because of the way they attempt to extort payment for their services.

[Cherie]

I would have no issue with a subscription service as long as it made provision for the current lot of over 75s who have a free licence and for those reaching that age say in the next ten years it would be unfair to take away this benefit from those who already have it. It would be a fairer system all round no payee no viewee : I found this thread very enlightening thanks for starting it Parmy

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I would have no issue with a subscription service as long as it made provision for the current lot of over 75s who have a free licence and for those reaching that age say in the next ten years it would be unfair to take away this benefit from those who already have it. It would be a fairer system all round no payee no viewee : I found this thread very enlightening thanks for starting it Parmy

ty cherie.

Couple of things im not getting is why pensioners get free licence when single parents would surely benefit more and are probably more in need of help here.

Another thing, i may be wrong, but dont we get product placement tv nowadays on the bbc, also when they do stuff like comic relief etc, time and time again some large company gets their big cheque moment in front of the camera which is another form of advertisement. I want to see the normal people who have given what they probably can't afford, thats who i want to see with a big cheque, not some suited arsehole from Sainsbury looking all smug as though they personally donated the money.