[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Well I guarantee once Marco goes then the hate will move to the next one who disrupts the house the most...and then the next one and the next...till we end up as we always do with a load of housemates playing it safe and using us and BB to get famous without providing any conflicts or any drama ...I think it's sad...BB work hard to put people together who clash and the voters work against them till we end up with a dull house and a dull show.

Anyone who dares to go against St Georgina will be a targeted on here,watch this space it's happening to Andy already.

[hot2go]

Entitled, loud, obnoxious, borderline-possessive, annoying voice, annoying laugh, childish, self obsessed, vacuous, sleazy, unable to reflect himself...I agree with you that he is all those things .....and thats exactly what makes him a great house mate....

Describes exactly the type of person that in the past BB have put into the house at a later date to give it some life again....it reads like the blue print of the type of person BB producers love....had we been told before the show started that they were gonna get one like him in the house a lot of people would have cheered.

I don't think you're seeing the whole person because you forgot to list that he has a split personality, dresses like Keith Richards, is a magnet to gold diggers, doesn't give a sh-t about anything, has no shame, impulsive, undiscriminating, compulsive flirt, tells BB to f-ck off, spontaneous, tattood, unpredictable, hyper-active, complete misfit and completely insane.

How can people say that hes not a good housemate or say he has no personality.....I mean, really ? Of course he has a personality ...He is a f-ckin brilliant housemate for all the reasons we used to like brilliant housemates....in the days when we wanted to see conflict and friction and watch complete mentalists unravel on our screens

Sorry if it's boring for you having 3 forum members who share the same point of view...imagine how boring it is for us having 300 who do.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Entitled, loud, obnoxious, borderline-possessive, annoying voice, annoying laugh, childish, self obsessed, vacuous, sleazy, unable to reflect himself...I agree with you that he is all those things .....and thats exactly what makes him a great house mate....

Describes exactly the type of person that in the past BB have put into the house at a later date to give it some life again....it reads like the blue print of the type of person BB producers love....had we been told before the show started that they were gonna get one like him in the house a lot of people would have cheered.

I don't think you're seeing the whole person because you forgot to list that he has a split personality, dresses like Keith Richards, is a magnet to gold diggers, doesn't give a sh-t about anything, has no shame, impulsive, undiscriminating, compulsive flirt, tells BB to f-ck off, spontaneous, tattood, unpredictable, hyper-active, complete misfit and completely insane.

How can people say that hes not a good housemate or say he has no personality.....I mean, really ? Of course he has a personality ...He is a f-ckin brilliant housemate for all the reasons we used to like brilliant housemates....in the days when we wanted to see conflict and friction and watch complete mentalists unravel on our screens

Sorry if it's boring for you having 3 forum members who share the same point of view...imagine how boring it is for us having 300 who do.

Great post

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Anyone who dares to go against St Georgina will be a targeted on here,watch this space it's happening to Andy already.

St Georgina, nice one Kaz




but it's rather Queen Georgina for me

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Ah ok I get it. I kind of think though that with the whole convo of dull vs loud housemates, that it's reducing whichever HM that's being talked about to one single thing, and it overlooks all the other reasons someone might like or dislike a housemate. Take Emma for example, in your eyes (and a lot of other peoples) she's dull and doesn't add much, whereas she's my personal favourite. I love watching her so she's anything but dull to me and adds more to my enjoyment than the other HM's. So who gets to decide which housemates are 'dull' and which are 'entertaining'? We all look for and notice different things in HM's, we relate to different aspects of people's personalities, respect different qualities etc, for lots of different reasons. And that's where I get my enjoyment of the show. So sometimes, I'd rather watch someone like Emma having a quiet conversation, but feel engaged and interested in her (even if noone else is lol), than watch someone I don't care about and have no emotional connection to, having an argument or doing something that someone else finds 'dramatic'. That's the problem with these kinds of arguments, it's all completely subjective, so one person saying "you should evict 'X' HM because they're dull" is going to have no influence on the person they're talking to if they don't personally find them dull. People are always going to vote based on personal preference of housemates, and their own personal enjoyment, is that not the way BB should be?

I agree with you about people's favourite being a personal thing...and actually Emma has made me laugh ....her battles with Georgina and her tree hugging with Marco ....she also has a strong opinion and voices it....I actually like all 4 that are up....I'm sorry i implied to you that Emma is dull, she's not...
I don't expect people to evict their favourite house mate for one minute....the problem is when people don't like some or all of the others that are up for eviction either and still choose to evict the one that causes the most trouble, that's not good for the show...this week is not a great example of that because all 4 of them bring something to the house....but if Marco was up against Sam, Alex and Evelyn people would still evict Marco....then, for the same reasons, will pick Ryan, then Natalie and on and on until there are no trouble makers left and the house ends up with no conflicts and no drama.
Fans of Georgina and Laura should think about that....because without Marco Laura will start getting less and less airtime....from day one she's chosen to be defined by her association with one of the guys, evict Marco and she will be evicted very shortly after herself.... Same with Georgina, she's not entirely defined by her dislike of Marco but the friction between them gives her profile loads more airtime then the other girls are getting....it cud change but at this point if two were evicted tonight and they were Marco and Emma then that would impact massively on Georgina's air time....Marco gets reactions from some of the others that are actually beneficial to their popularity.
Disliking someone isn't the reason we should evict them....I intensely dislike Ryan and I ain't exactly Natalie's biggest fan either but I wud be gutted if they were evicted this early in the show because they bring drama and cause trouble...their bad behaviour, and the others reaction to that, creates a platform that brings out the best and worst in the very people that are popular.
Some people think Marco is a grotesque moron and should go....I think Ryan is a grotesque moron and should stay ....it's about what's best for the show not just who we like or dislike as people.

[armand.kay]

Emma, Georgina and Andy are the better housemates as they've still got more to offer Marco has played his cards the viewers were bored of him 3 days in and now even his housemates are getting bored.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

St Georgina, nice one Kaz




but it's rather Queen Georgina for me

Legend Geo also works fine.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Anyone who dares to go against St Georgina will be a targeted on here,watch this space it's happening to Andy already.

I actually liked Georgina a lot but im starting to change my mind and that's not because my opinion of her has changed its completely because of the way so may of her supporters seem intent on evicting every other housemate who challenges her....if she stays we will lose loads of the strong characters and much as I think she's good she's not worth destroying the rest of the show for.
What could happen is Andy fans and Marco fans and fans of other good housemates that will leave because they've been targeted for this reason could turn on Georgina and get her booted out....the whole thing could backfire....the hate being thrown at Marco, and the joy that's being shown by those who do it, is starting to make me resent Georgina....and it's a shame cause I like her.

[Maria26]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I actually liked Georgina a lot but im starting to change my mind and that's not because my opinion of her has changed its completely because of the way so may of her supporters seem intent on evicting every other housemate who challenges her....if she stays we will lose loads of the strong characters and much as I think she's good she's not worth destroying the rest of the show for.
What could happen is Andy fans and Marco fans and fans of other good housemates that will leave because they've been targeted for this reason could turn on Georgina and get her booted out....the whole thing could backfire....the hate being thrown at Marco, and the joy that's being shown by those who do it, is starting to make me resent Georgina....and it's a shame cause I like her.

Cause you think only Georgina's fans are voting Marco out? Marco is so hated by almost everyone, that I find it rather stupid to say that Georgina's fans are turning you off of her. Why aren't you talking about others? Because we're the most vocal on this forum? Laura and Emma fans are even planning on evicting Marco just so they can shine on their own and be more than Marco shadows.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Maria26

Cause you think only Georgina's fans are voting Marco out? Marco is so hated by almost everyone, that I find it rather stupid to say that Georgina's fans are turning you off of her. Why aren't you talking about others? Because we're the most vocal on this forum? Laura and Emma fans are even planning on evicting Marco just so they can shine on their own and be more than Marco shadows.

I don't mind you calling me stupid but I do have a problem that some people get reprimanded for saying that and others seem to get away with it...I wonder which of those categories you will fall into.

I don't think only Georgina fans are voting Marco out, I think it's fans of female housemates in general....and it's females in the house who nominated him...none of the male housemates nominated him ....the male vote tonight will be more in favour of him staying where as the female vote is more split across the other 3 as well...that could make the difference and could lead to him staying.

[hot2go]

I didn't say that Georgina fans are turning me off her....I like Georgina and will continue to like her....she's a good housemate.
I said that if Georgina fans continue to target housemates that confront her then we will be left with less and less strong characters and the show will turn to sh-t dust like it always does....I thought there could be no reason for me to want Georgina out but I was wrong....if keeping her means losing the other strong characters then I will stop voting in her favour....and that has nothing to do with my disliking her because I don't...I think she's great

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I agree with you about people's favourite being a personal thing...and actually Emma has made me laugh ....her battles with Georgina and her tree hugging with Marco ....she also has a strong opinion and voices it....I actually like all 4 that are up....I'm sorry i implied to you that Emma is dull, she's not...
I don't expect people to evict their favourite house mate for one minute....the problem is when people don't like some or all of the others that are up for eviction either and still choose to evict the one that causes the most trouble, that's not good for the show...this week is not a great example of that because all 4 of them bring something to the house....but if Marco was up against Sam, Alex and Evelyn people would still evict Marco....then, for the same reasons, will pick Ryan, then Natalie and on and on until there are no trouble makers left and the house ends up with no conflicts and no drama.
Fans of Georgina and Laura should think about that....because without Marco Laura will start getting less and less airtime....from day one she's chosen to be defined by her association with one of the guys, evict Marco and she will be evicted very shortly after herself.... Same with Georgina, she's not entirely defined by her dislike of Marco but the friction between them gives her profile loads more airtime then the other girls are getting....it cud change but at this point if two were evicted tonight and they were Marco and Emma then that would impact massively on Georgina's air time....Marco gets reactions from some of the others that are actually beneficial to their popularity.
Disliking someone isn't the reason we should evict them....I intensely dislike Ryan and I ain't exactly Natalie's biggest fan either but I wud be gutted if they were evicted this early in the show because they bring drama and cause trouble...their bad behaviour, and the others reaction to that, creates a platform that brings out the best and worst in the very people that are popular.
Some people think Marco is a grotesque moron and should go....I think Ryan is a grotesque moron and should stay ....it's about what's best for the show not just who we like or dislike as people.

So you goddamm should be

I think it's just different tastes again though. Like you say, you don't mind keeping people in that you don't like if you can see an overall benefit to the show, and you can still enjoy the show with them in it, but for other people that's not the case and the show wouldn't be watchable for them with certain HM's in there, and so to them personally, there is no overall benefit.
I think back to BB7 when Sezer was evicted. He was a massive character that impacted on a lot of HM's airtime in a similar way to how Marco does in the examples in your post. But I was delighted when he was evicted. It made for a great eviction show, it made me enjoy other characters more who'd been previously swallowed up because of his airtime, and I just wouldn't have enjoyed watching the following episodes as much had he been in them. And when I look back on the series as a whole, I remember that as being one of the great moments that makes me appreciate the series more.

[hot2go]

I hope you're right Jamie...I hope his inevitable departure tonight doesn't leave the house with a massive hole ....it's not what I want to see happen it's just what I think will happen...I hope he stays and I hope, for your sake, Emma does too....
I think a lot of the housemates will be gutted that he's been evicted and so too will BB....be interesting to see the others reaction as well because they clearly want to meet him and don't think for one minute that he will be evicted tonight....
He is without doubt the most talked about housemate this year and yet he's gonna leave tonight....there is something very wrong with a picture like that.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Emma, Georgina and Andy are the better housemates as they've still got more to offer Marco has played his cards the viewers were bored of him 3 days in and now even his housemates are getting bored.

Surely thats a good thing then as it'll mean more tension and arguments happening

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Surely thats a good thing then as it'll mean more tension and arguments happening

Not really most the arguments and tension is comming from other hms and they all just seem drained by Marco like Georgina is the only one who says anything to him and even she doesn't seem bothered to actually argue with him. People claim he's bringing the energy of the house up when really he's draining up all the energy in the house.

[armand.kay]

Characters like marco aren't ment to be in big brother for longer that a week he's too shallow and doesn't have much else to offer.

[Jordan.]

But most the females who fit that criteria are worshipped on here lol

[Vanessa]

Vote to evict will kill this series. I just hope at least Ryan can survive it or we're doomed

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Not really most the arguments and tension is comming from other hms and they all just seem drained by Marco like Georgina is the only one who says anything to him and even she doesn't seem bothered to actually argue with him. People claim he's bringing the energy of the house up when really he's draining up all the energy in the house.

So how come the 'Others' were shocked when he was up,they seem to like him and he only got a few noms,if he was that bad everyone would have nommed him,Georgina got more noms than him so she must be harder to live with then him,its ok for us to to form opinions but we are not in there,none of them have actually said they dislike him,but people on here have and they aren't even in there.

[Vanessa]

I don't want to vote for Emma, but she's the only hope to keep Marco so i will have to

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

But most the females who fit that criteria are worshipped on here lol

Aint that the truth.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So how come the 'Others' were shocked when he was up,they seem to like him and he only got a few noms,if he was that bad everyone would have nommed him,Georgina got more noms than him so she must be harder to live with then him,its ok for us to to form opinions but we are not in there,none of them have actually said they dislike him,but people on here have and they aren't even in there.

He only got three nominations, so he isn't hated. I think it's the sex stuff that's getting so many people backs up. But Marco always does what he wants and he will not change to please anyone. He's a free spirit

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So how come the 'Others' were shocked when he was up,they seem to like him and he only got a few noms,if he was that bad everyone would have nommed him,Georgina got more noms than him so she must be harder to live with then him,its ok for us to to form opinions but we are not in there,none of them have actually said they dislike him,but people on here have and they aren't even in there.

Because everyone in the house just assumes that because he is the loudest and has followers he's the most popular. Also a few housemates have complained about Marco bringing them down and over powering them.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He only got three nominations, so he isn't hated. I think it's the sex stuff that's getting so many people backs up. But Marco always does what he wants and he will not change to please anyone. He's a free spirit

He's certainly that Nessit makes me laugh how he annoys people.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He's certainly that Nessit makes me laugh how he annoys people.

He has such an amazing life. Lucky bugger