[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Thats not Jasons fault is it ? lots on here moaning about his great win,but I would like to bet hardly any of the ones moaning bothered to vote for their fav ,Jason had good supporters who cared enough to pick up the phone and vote, its the same every series

[hot2go]

He got rid of Lateysha, for me that's my winner.....I wouldn't of cared if he spent the remainder of his time afterwards sat on the back of the Zebra staring into space...
No chav in first place for a change...,hallelujah

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by hot2go

He got rid of Lateysha, for me that's my winner.....I wouldn't of cared if he spent the remainder of his time afterwards sat on the back of the Zebra staring into space...
No chav in first place for a change...,hallelujah

He deserved to win it on that alone ,my fav thing of the entire series, sod Hughie getting pissed and falling in the pool Sod Jayne childish diary room rants Sod Ryan and Hughie eating each others faces off Sod Laura /Marco having sex on tv Lets watch a real man destroy his enemy and make the show watchable in one press of a buzzer

[Pete.]

What's done is done. Upon reflection Jason winning bears no relevance to how amazing this series was so I don't really care anymore

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Pete.

What's done is done. Upon reflection Jason winning bears no relevance to how amazing this series was so I don't really care anymore

Yes often the winner does not reflect the series.

In some series the most overall entertaining HM wins, such as Brian in BB2 or Josie in BB11

Sometimes the series' best HMs don't even make the final such as Jon Tickle in BB4 or Marcus in BB10

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Pete.

What's done is done. Upon reflection Jason winning bears no relevance to how amazing this series was so I don't really care anymore

Yeah this! I'm not bothered anymore. We'e had worst imo but meh

[Raph]

Well said

In my opinion he is the worst winner the show has ever had

[Xtopher]

Look at all these bitter people.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Xtopher

Look at all these bitter people.

This! Sour grapes

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Xtopher

Look at all these bitter people.

Tbf not everyone liked Jason and they are entitled not to be happy

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by Xtopher

Look at all these bitter people.

I'm not being bitter. I said straight away I don't mind if you liked Jason winning. If it was a 0.5% vote and all, then yeah, it makes sense if 50% of the fanbase like this. I'm not stopping the past, even as much as I would want to since I hate Jason, but I'm just offering my opinion on why he as an individual is a very poor winner.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Xtopher

Look at all these bitter people.

I see no bitterness on this thread, just analysis

No one here hates Jason or begrudges his victory, but there is plenty to analyse about him as a BB winner, from an outsider POV

Maybe shades of grey are too complicated for such basic black-and-white thinking and it's easier to simply pigeon-hole people who aren't fawning over Jason as 'bitter', rather than make the effort to read their posts properly and see that they are just making objective points, taking in both the good and the bad about him.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Nobody hated Jason until he got rid of Lateysha and she wasn't even that good anyway? And sure Jason ~played da game~ but like, so did Lateysha. So did Hughie. So did Jackson.

IDK, I just don't see how this is anything to get worked up about. We've had some better winners but we've also had plenty of worse ones.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Nobody hated Jason until he got rid of Lateysha and she wasn't even that good anyway? And sure Jason ~played da game~ but like, so did Lateysha. So did Hughie. So did Jackson.

IDK, I just don't see how this is anything to get worked up about. We've had some better winners but we've also had plenty of worse ones.

The anti-Jason sentiment seemed to really start the week before (the week Charlie left) because she had sort of a cult status on here so he was blamed for everything bad that happened between them and then it just got more widespread after he dared to evict Lateysha but yeah I fully agree with this sentiment. It's one of the most random vilifications of a housemate I can recall.

[starry]

Originally Posted by EpicD

Before I start this, I want people to know that I am NOT bitter about Hughie not winning.

Hughie IS bitter, lol

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...ng-than-jason/

No surprise to anyone who followed the series closely, he was so tied to that shallow group.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by starry

Hughie IS bitter, lol

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...ng-than-jason/

No surprise to anyone who followed the series closely, he was so tied to that shallow group.

Oh dear....never mind it's all over now...and they lost

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by starry

Hughie IS bitter, lol

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...ng-than-jason/

No surprise to anyone who followed the series closely, he was so tied to that shallow group.

ok I'm glad I stopped stanning Hughie mid-series now after he said that

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by starry

Hughie IS bitter, lol

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...ng-than-jason/

No surprise to anyone who followed the series closely, he was so tied to that shallow group.

He also says he's happy for Jason... and "He won it fair and square at the end of the day - there's not any kind of bitterness or any grudges I'm going to carry on, but I just think there's others like Alex, Ryan, Jackson, Lateysha."

I don't think he's bitter, he's just Hughie he can't help but speak without thinking what he's saying, and saying what he's feeling because he's a very open person.
In his opinion there would have been better winners but that doesn't mean he's bitter about Jason winning (I also think there would have been better winners but I still like Jason and don't mind that he won).
People seem to be calling out bitterness a lot when actually it's just someone expressing an opinion, or debating the winners merit. You can hold the opinion that someone else would have been a better winner (whilst even being happy for Jason winning), without being bitter

[Ammi]

..I doubt that Hughie has any bitterness, I doubt that many of the housemates have..it's all just more that they're echoing things that have been said on the outside and to get a little bit of income from their stories...that's largely why their times in there anyway..to 'raise profiles' etc and this is their highest income time when they've just left the house...it would be nice to think that they held onto their own thoughts about housemates because they know them best..'their worthiness' as it were..we've only had a very small amount of highlight from them all and very much 'slanted' to what BB want us to see...so it would be nice if they kept true to their own thoughts of the people they've come to know but well...it's showbiz baby and this is all part of their experience as well....

[Ammi]

..really, the 'smart' ones and the 'worthy' ones are the ones who can make the most out of it all now as well, in terms of their own advancement in what they want to achieve and pursue...

[Kazanne]

Jesus look at fag ash Lil lighting up her fag,LOL classy

[y.winter]

He added: "Maybe his dad and his friends have a Ł10,000 phone bill. I don't understand."

Oh, you didn't just say that...

[calyman]

A good and decent man won the show, so what's the problem. True, he was not "entertaining" in that childish immature fashion so well exemplified by the the tedious antics of the other chancers who were the real game players/two faced/hypocrites and bullies. I hope the series is starting to grow up and there will be more real people like Andy and Jason in future shows. Do we really need to endure self obsessed entitled wastes of space like Lateysha and co?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by calyman

A good and decent man won the show, so what's the problem. True, he was not "entertaining" in that childish immature fashion so well exemplified by the the tedious antics of the other chancers who were the real game players/two faced/hypocrites and bullies. I hope the series is starting to grow up and there will be more real people like Andy and Jason in future shows. Do we really need to endure self obsessed entitled wastes of space like Lateysha and co?

No more needs to be said. Not everyone is entertained by immature actions.

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by calyman

A good and decent man won the show, so what's the problem. True, he was not "entertaining" in that childish immature fashion so well exemplified by the the tedious antics of the other chancers who were the real game players/two faced/hypocrites and bullies. I hope the series is starting to grow up and there will be more real people like Andy and Jason in future shows. Do we really need to endure self obsessed entitled wastes of space like Lateysha and co?

This.
These days not being loud and part of the mainstream is called playing a game, when it's actually how people behave in the real world.