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14-10-2016, 11:51 AM
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14-10-2016, 01:36 PM
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 cancel the current election and give it to Michelle
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14-10-2016, 02:23 PM
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Michelle "I hate White Americans" Obama
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14-10-2016, 02:26 PM
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14-10-2016, 02:56 PM
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How only during her husband presidency, is the first time in her life she's been proud of America. How the Whitehouse was built by only Black slaves (which is untrue). |
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14-10-2016, 02:59 PM
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14-10-2016, 03:12 PM
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14-10-2016, 03:18 PM
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14-10-2016, 03:18 PM
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In ancient times cats were worshipped as gods; they have not forgotten this. Terry Pratchett “I am thrilled to be alive at time when humanity is pushing against the limits of understanding. Even better, we may eventually discover that there are no limits.” ― Richard Dawkins |
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14-10-2016, 04:57 PM
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14-10-2016, 05:19 PM
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14-10-2016, 07:50 PM
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A Comprehensive Guide to Donald Trump's Women Problems This Election Season (Fortune)
October 14, 2016, 3:40 PM EDT In the past 24 hours, at least eleven women have accused Donald Trump of sexual harassment or assault. While the candidate has vehemently denied these charges—and even threatened to sue the New York Times for reporting on two of the allegations—this is only the most recent scandal involving women to crop up during Trump’s presidential bid. Given the extraordinary nature of this campaign, you could be forgiven for having lost track of some of those incidents. Here’s a timeline that walks through the various insults and allegations that come up during the course of the race. August 2015: Megyn Kelly During the first Republican primary debate, Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly asked Trump about his comments about women, “You’ve called women you don’t like ‘fat pigs,’ ‘dogs,’ ‘slobs’ and ‘disgusting animals,’” she said, to which Trump responded: “Only Rosie O’Donnell.” The day after the debate, Trump criticized Kelly’s style, saying she treated him unfairly: “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions,” Trump said, adding, “You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever”—a remark some observers read as a reference to menstruation. The scuffle led to a nine-month-long feud, during which Trump called Kelly an “overrated anchor,” “crazy Megyn,” and “very bad at math,” among other things. The two apparently made peace during Kelly’s primetime special in May 2016. “I like our relationship right now,” Trump said toward the end of their conversation. September 2015: Carly Fiorina A Rolling Stone article chronicled Trump’s commentary about his primary opponents, including former HP CEO Carly Fiorina, the only woman gunning for the Republican nomination. “Look at that face!” he said about Fiorina while watching a replay of an earlier debate. “Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?!” Fiorina’s campaign retaliated with a web campaign ad showing Fiorina speaking at a Republican women’s event. “Ladies, look at this face,” Fiorina said in the ad. “And look at all your faces. The face of leadership. This is the face of a 61-year-old woman. I am proud of every year and every wrinkle.” Subscribe to the Broadsheet, Fortune’s daily newsletter on the world’s most powerful women. March 2016: Punishment for abortions In an interview with MSNBC host Chris Matthews, Trump said that “there has to be some form of punishment” for women who get abortions, should the procedure be banned in the U.S. He later walked the statement back, issuing a press release that stated that “the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman.” April 2016: The ‘woman card’ During his Super Tuesday victory speech, the GOP candidate accused Hillary Clinton of playing up her gender during the campaign. “She’s got nothing else going,” Trump said during a press conference after the speech. “And frankly, if Hillary Clinton were a man, I don’t think she’d get 5% of the vote. The only thing she’s got going is the woman’s card.” The Clinton campaign quickly spun the comments into a slogan, offering physical “woman cards” to donors and using the hashtag #womancard when speaking about platform issues pertaining to women (e.g. equal pay and paid parental leave). May 2016: New York Times exposé The New York Times published the results of a six-week, 50-interview investigation into Donald Trump’s treatment of women. The women’s accounts “reveal unwelcome romantic advances, unending commentary on the female form, a shrewd reliance on ambitious women, and unsettling workplace conduct,” according to the Times. The Trump campaign disputed many of the details of the Times’ investigation: “A lot of things get made up over the years,” he told the publication. “I have always treated women with great respect. And women will tell you that.” June-August 2016: Staffer sexism A Huffington Post investigation revealed that in May, three-fourths of Donald Trump’s campaign staff was male and that female staff members made 35% less than their male counterparts. In August, Trump appointed a 13-person economic advisory team that included six men named Steve—but not a single woman. He later added several women to the group. September 2016: Alicia Machado During the first presidential debate, Hillary Clinton called out her opponent for his treatment of former Miss Universe Alicia Machado. “He called the woman Miss Piggy,” she said. “Then he called her ‘Miss Housekeeping,’ because she was Latina. Donald, she has a name.” October 2016: The Apprentice: The AP published an investigation into the billionaire’s treatment of women on his reality TV show, The Apprentice. According to the publication, he “rated female contestants by the size of their breasts and talked about which ones he’d like to have sex with.” Access Hollywood: The Washington Post released tapes of Donald Trump talking to Access Hollywood host Billy Bush about groping and kissing women without their consent. “When you’re a star, you can do anything you want,” he says. Assault allegations: Following the release of the tapes and the candidate’s statement during the second presidential debate that he never actually did any of the things he had talked about (he called it “locker room talk”), more than ten women have come forward with accusations of harassment and assault. Source: A Comprehensive Guide to Donald Trump's Women Problems This Election Season http://fortune.com/2016/10/13/donald...omen-timeline/
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14-10-2016, 10:01 PM
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Donald Trump's lead in my state is shrinking...
New poll: Trump lead shrinks in Texas, within margin of error http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/texas...rror/335896258 Quote:
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The biggest irony of all, with all his talk of being anti-immigration and fixing borders (something that is always an issue here), would be to lose in the state of Texas because of the female vote.  I don't see how he could ever live that down.
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15-10-2016, 04:31 AM
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15-10-2016, 06:12 AM
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..so the 19th amendment is women's right to vote and the joking..(or not joking..
..)..is about repealing that..?...I loved Michelle Obama's inspirational speech... ..she referred to political stances and said this shouldn't be a Republic V Democratic thing, this should be a human thing../speaking of basically sexual assaulting another person...it's the same with gender as well...I think I said that in another thread...this shouldn't be a gender thing either...what he said was his 'practised methods' is offensive to everyone and worrying, no matter what the gender.../sexual assault is a human thing...
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15-10-2016, 08:13 AM
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Part of me wants to go to a rally to see who the are people are still going to these revelations have come out, on the other hand I don't want to caught in angry mob. Anyway, Russian hackers. It's a real thing. Though seriously...Since the election began, when I would sometimes read internet comments, there would be random waves of anti-Clinton/Obama commentary in articles that had jack all to do with politics. I have seen so many accounts with a full time jobs worth of posts and fudged histories... some you had to dig to find evidence of being fake, but you could tell right away they were propaganda accts. I doubt a lot of the stuff I read online, especially comments, because it's a very real thing that these campaigns are paying people to make and post from fake accounts to make it seem as if a movement is stronger than it actually is. They will sit and argue too and I'm sure it pays to run campaigns in this way... Also 4chan and reddit love to get in on the trolling fun. The internet is the wild west. Clinton SuperPac Admits to Paying Internet Trolls http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4...nternet-Trolls It looks like Russia hired internet trolls to pose as pro-Trump Americans http://www.businessinsider.com/russi...d-trump-2016-7 How an army of pro-Donald Trump trolls are taking over Reddit http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/how-donal...ok-over-reddit
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15-10-2016, 08:17 AM
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..I'll look at your links a bit later in the day when I have more time Maru as I have to get off now...but wasn't it Reddit also that were asking for people to share the vid with Hilary's 'rapist enabler', slanted in editing video in the other thread..?..
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15-10-2016, 09:06 AM
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I guess another question would be... without the internet would a Trump candidacy even be possible... the media held the narrative with lock and key. It took numbers to get ideas and more pressure than it was probably worth to spread... now it only takes a few clicks and a willing botnet. For me, the tension in the US became obvious after 911 but since that coincided with the rise of the net, I guess it could also be that we are all exposed to increasingly oppressive rhetoric in larger doses. Some Americans become very sensitive when they feel their version of the nation's self-image is being attacked and under siege by what they consider to be a toxic force imposing on their idealist visions for the US. Once you put someone into a defensive posture, it's very difficult to get them to come down from their position... especially on the net of all places. We all generally live in a filter bubble thanks to click baity social media algorhythms, tailored search results via Google and now an army of propaganda pushers. It is incredibly difficult to get through all that noise to try to find a voter who is receptive to such messaging without playing to their deepest emotional sensivities. It's probably much easier to just talk to voters in person to level with them on how their views are contributing to the sexism, etc than over the net where most content served to them is meant to coddle them and cater to their views, not differ from them and challenge them.
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15-10-2016, 06:56 AM
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 I know a lot (most?) of the people saying to repeal the 19th are just joking, but some of them aren't. Maybe that's not important because there's no danger of it ever happening anyway, but I think the fact that the idea of it is gaining traction is more symbolic than anything. Symbolic of the undertones of this campaign, and the influence of Trump, and the thoughts and feeling of some (some!) of his supporters. And if this is his influence at this stage, what would his influence be as president? There are a lot of impressionable people who will look up to him as president and follow his lead, being a leader and all. And we know that he thinks it's fine to show a complete lack of disrespect for women. Most men don't though so why any of those men would want him to be their representative is something I don't understand at all.
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.../how these things can pick up traction in uncertain/fearful and frustrating times for countries...
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it's just bizarre isn't it, the whole thing. It would have been a great concept for a parody/comedy sketch or something, but to think it's actually modern day america... Can't get my head round it.
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me Jamie and Ammi rt now
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