[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

she really didnt, many states werent even voted on they were just given to hilary but other politicians

I cannot agree and Bernie Sanders would have kicked off if that was the case,with even a hint of real unfairness, he was in with an outside chance.

For me at least,my view, she won the selection for nomination to run fair and square, and while maybe it was a bit more about respect for her efforts from the Democrats,(that even Mr Trump is on about now in his current sudden change of heart and his lauding of her),however still as valid a result for her as has been the case for all before her.

Equally so, despite the Republicans wishing Trump would disappear near all through the Republican primaries, his selection for them was equally won fair and square too.

[empire]

trump knows how the world economy works, he is not dumb, and he just puts on an act on tv, but he won't be doing that in the white house, trump could see how america was being sold out and he did not like what he was seeing, there was no way that car and plane factory workers would vote for hillary when she was going to sell their jobs aboard, under hillary, the unemployed numbers would increase, her free college policy would cost billions, and the country can't afford it.

[Kizzy]

If Sanders is so politically and ideologically aligned with Corbyn isn't it strange how the misinformation and bias within his own party as well as the media is so easily identifiable for him?....

[empire]

it was well-known that under bill, many staff at the white house said that hillary would attack bill, and she would ridicule her staff who would not take her crap, and many in the white house said that bill was a nice guy who always said thank you, but hillary would never say the word thank you, one of bill's lovers said that he had a nickname for her, /THE WARDEN/ and many who have met her have said the same words about her, the reason why she did not go out to her supporters on the election night was because she was so drunk that she tried to physically attack john podesta and robby mook, and she had to be sedated by her doctor, this woman was not level head to run a country, I say thank god she lost,

[Alf]

Originally Posted by empire

it was well-known that under bill, many staff at the white house said that hillary would attack bill, and she would ridicule her staff who would not take her crap, and many in the white house said that bill was a nice guy who always said thank you, but hillary would never say the word thank you, one of bill's lovers said that he had a nickname for her, /THE WARDEN/ and many who have met her have said the same words about her, the reason why she did not go out to her supporters on the election night was because she was so drunk that she tried to physically attack john podesta and robby mook, and she had to be sedated by her doctor, this woman was not level head to run a country, I say thank god she lost,

I've heard reports that on election night, when she found out she lost, she physically attacked some of her team, and I can believe it to be true.

[empire]

from the sounds of her health, she does not have that long to live, she could not go up or down the stairs, without holding on too both banisters, it was also caught on film and from inside her party that she would fall many times, and she had to be held on by both of her bodyguards, she also has seizures, and it is said that her party brings in a bodydouble when her health hits at a very bad level, she is pumped up with so many strong drugs, that she nearly passes out, and her inside team said in the e-mails that she has early signs of vascular dementia,

[Tom4784]

I heard she feasts on the souls of children to extend her life for a few extra minutes.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I heard she feasts on the souls of children to extend her life for a few extra minutes.

I could almost believe that - if she could, she would.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I heard she feasts on the souls of children to extend her life for a few extra minutes.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I heard she feasts on the souls of children to extend her life for a few extra minutes.

[Nicky91]

Hillary is a good person, why does everyone think she's crooked, leave her alone

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Hillary is a good person, why does everyone think she's crooked, leave her alone

tell that to the 1 million dead innocent iraqis and the libyans, the syrians etc etc

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Hillary is a good person, why does everyone think she's crooked, leave her alone

Sorry, but maybe you need to do some homework on Mrs Clinton!

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Sorry, but maybe you need to do some homework on Mrs Clinton!

well okay she has done some bad things, but now she isn't elected president, so please give her a break


and deleting e-mails containing government information is something criminal of course, so maybe she did already have her punishment people not voting for her to become president


i am still surprised and delighted that Donald Trump got elected president

[the truth]

so happy the career criminal and warmonger killary hasnt taken over the free world....lets give this great businessman a chance

[Ammi]

..well the USA has no choice but to give it a chance because it is as it is and as the voting has decided...so far as the forum is concerned though..?..(because I'm not sure what the giving a chance refers to..)..it's not really the non-trump people so far as I can see that aren't giving it a chance with what feels like endless 'goading' threads which are only ever going to incite opposing opinions in posting with those who aren't feeling the same Trump adoration...so it seems very counterproductive in these endless threads from Trump supporters and then saying give it a chance/move on etc when the inevitable opposing opinions are given...

[user104658]

I just don't understand why this is even still a "thing". I mean, something like Brexit, sure, a huge, probably permanent political change (that hasn't even fully gone through yet) still has scope for debate...

But Hillary lost. No matter what way you cut it, it's over, she's irrelevant, she isn't president and she won't ever BE president, really all she is now is a relic of a political system that seems to be "dying off"... none of this is really relevant. It's already history, not current politics.

Sometimes I wonder if the vehemently anti-Hillary people would have been much happier if she'd won, as really what seems to be desired is something to "unmask" / mock / complain about. "LOOK AT WHAT SHE DID! LOOK AT WHAT SHE HAS DONE NOW!!!". Like... people are still trying to do it, for absolutely no reason . I can only imagine they just... enjoy it?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I just don't understand why this is even still a "thing". I mean, something like Brexit, sure, a huge, probably permanent political change (that hasn't even fully gone through yet) still has scope for debate...

But Hillary lost. No matter what way you cut it, it's over, she's irrelevant, she isn't president and she won't ever BE president, really all she is now is a relic of a political system that seems to be "dying off"... none of this is really relevant. It's already history, not current politics.

Sometimes I wonder if the vehemently anti-Hillary people would have been much happier if she'd won, as really what seems to be desired is something to "unmask" / mock / complain about. "LOOK AT WHAT SHE DID! LOOK AT WHAT SHE HAS DONE NOW!!!". Like... people are still trying to do it, for absolutely no reason . I can only imagine they just... enjoy it?

..I'm not even sure if she's ever had any supporters here or if Trump has anyone who actually hates him is the things as well...it's just not seeing much good in either of them/anything to be respected or admired etc...I mean it's just all so counterproductive in terms of the forum...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I just don't understand why this is even still a "thing". I mean, something like Brexit, sure, a huge, probably permanent political change (that hasn't even fully gone through yet) still has scope for debate...

But Hillary lost. No matter what way you cut it, it's over, she's irrelevant, she isn't president and she won't ever BE president, really all she is now is a relic of a political system that seems to be "dying off"... none of this is really relevant. It's already history, not current politics.

Sometimes I wonder if the vehemently anti-Hillary people would have been much happier if she'd won, as really what seems to be desired is something to "unmask" / mock / complain about. "LOOK AT WHAT SHE DID! LOOK AT WHAT SHE HAS DONE NOW!!!". Like... people are still trying to do it, for absolutely no reason . I can only imagine they just... enjoy it?

For my part, I respond to rebut a post which counters the opinion which I hold, or to support a post which coincides with my opinion, but which is being rebutted by those of a differing opinion.

I also believe, that while ever Donald Trump, The US Presidential Election, the Anti-Trump riots, and the very real linked corruption and Electoral 'irregularities' ARE current and under debate, then Hilary Clinton is still highly RELEVANT, and as such, it is inevitable that she will form the topic of a lot of members posts.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

For my part, I respond to rebut a post which counters the opinion which I hold, or to support a post which coincides with my opinion, but which is being rebutted by those of a differing opinion.

I also believe, that while ever Donald Trump, The US Presidential Election, the Anti-Trump riots, and the very real linked corruption and Electoral 'irregularities' ARE current and under debate, then Hilary Clinton is still highly RELEVANT, and as such, it is inevitable that she will form the topic of a lot of members posts.

I think though that people don't dislike Trump because they like Hillary, they don't like Trump because of himself and his actions/things he's said.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think though that people don't dislike Trump because they like Hillary, they don't like Trump because of himself and his actions/things he's said.

..yeah this exactly Niamh and it just goes on and on in my opinion... which is fine if that's what's wanted but then there is no point to keep saying things like sour grapes/move on/give him a chance etc...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think though that people don't dislike Trump because they like Hillary, they don't like Trump because of himself and his actions/things he's said.

like protecting the public, reducing terrorism, rewarding veterans, reducing debts, improving wealth, rebuilding roads and the industries, producing millions of jobs, keeping them in america, withdrawing from the middle east in time....? what a nasty man?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

like protecting the public, reducing terrorism, rewarding veterans, reducing debts, improving wealth, rebuilding roads and the industries, producing millions of jobs, keeping them in america, withdrawing from the middle east in time....? what a nasty man?

yes yes, that's it

[kirklancaster]

Oh, I agree with you here Niamh - I do honestly believe that most people who dislike or hate Trump do so because of what they perceive him to be and not because he was Clinton's opponent in the Presidential Elections, but I was meaning that BECAUSE Trump and the other Election linked issues are still HOT news, then it is inevitable that Clinton's name is going to be brought up and the linked issues surrounding her be discussed.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I also believe, that while ever Donald Trump, The US Presidential Election, the Anti-Trump riots, and the very real linked corruption and Electoral 'irregularities' ARE current and under debate, then Hilary Clinton is still highly RELEVANT, and as such, it is inevitable that she will form the topic of a lot of members posts.

I'm just not convinced it's a debate that needs to be had, especially in the "mocking" way it sometimes is here (not by you, kirk) and the talk of "sour grapes" etc. because as others have said... there really aren't many, if any, Hillary supporters on here at all .

The fact that Hillary Clinton would have made a bad president has absolutely no bearing on anti-Trump sentiment on here or anywhere else... it doesn't mean that Trump isn't also bad. He's untested of course so no one can say for sure, but logically speaking, a sneering / truth-bending semi-celebrity and representative of "American Big Business" is unlikely to make a good president. That doesn't mean that Clinton would have been a good president.

There just seems to be thread after thread gleefully attempting to call out "Loony Left" (Clinton is not Left) "Hillary Supporters" (who are simply not here). People seem to be trying to CREATE Hillary fans in their mind to mock, for little purpose other than to "enjoy a victory" that presumably otherwise feels hollow.