[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IMO and lots of others opinion in Maddie groups, Maddie died a couple of days before the alarm was raised, giving Mcs time to clean 5a, and concoct alibis with the tapas group ,IMO Gerry was moving Maddies body on "Alarm night" when the man walking his baby came past, Tanner who was his look out failed to see the man, so Gerry laid Maddie in the flowerbed ( hence death scent found there )and went over talking to the man to stop him being suspicious and to see if he had seen anything ....Tanner knowing she had nearly got Gerry caught offered to come up with a "sighting" IMO Maddie was taken to Huelva 25 days after her demise (hence death scent in hire car ,and the unaccounted for milage and hours on the trip )Huelva has acid baths where Maddie body would never be found and promoted Gerrys "Find the body and prove we killed her" comment on their return ,neighbour reported hire car boot left open day and night after Huelva

She was seen up until about 2pm on the day of 'the disappearance' though wasn't she? Different people saying they saw her.

The Huelva thing always interested me about this. So sick if this is what happened but does explain the arrogance of 'find the body' and such

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

She was seen up until about 2pm on the day of 'the disappearance' though wasn't she? Different people saying they saw her.

The Huelva thing always interested me about this. So sick if this is what happened but does explain the arrogance of 'find the body' and such

Tanners girls is the spitting image of Maddie and is widely believed to have been used to make people think she was Maddie

McCanns put off going to Huelva the day they planned to go as Gerry "had an upset stomach " so went on a bank holiday, shops all closed, and like a ghost town ,I've driven past Huelva when in Portugal, its a tiny one horse town ,why if you want to get massive attention to what happened not go to Seville a big town and they would have passed there to go to quite Huelva, IMO thats where Maddie remains were left ,have you seen the photo of Gerry packing the car up with posters for the trip wearing rubber gloves? and a box of rubber gloves in the boot ,why would you need rubber gloves ?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IMO and lots of others opinion in Maddie groups, Maddie died a couple of days before the alarm was raised, giving Mcs time to clean 5a, and concoct alibis with the tapas group ,IMO Gerry was moving Maddies body on "Alarm night" when the man walking his baby came past, Tanner who was his look out failed to see the man, so Gerry laid Maddie in the flowerbed ( hence death scent found there )and went over talking to the man to stop him being suspicious and to see if he had seen anything ....Tanner knowing she had nearly got Gerry caught offered to come up with a "sighting" IMO Maddie was taken to Huelva 25 days after her demise (hence death scent in hire car ,and the unaccounted for milage and hours on the trip )Huelva has acid baths where Maddie body would never be found and promoted Gerrys "Find the body and prove we killed her" comment on their return ,neighbour reported hire car boot left open day and night after Huelva

I'm going to go and read up about Huelva.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

You certainly sparked my interest in this case Niamh. I've done a lot of reading since your last thread and have had a change of heart to the disappearance of Madeleine. Its all very suspicious.

I had a thought after reading your spoiler; could Madeleine of been already dead in her bed when Gerry stood looking over her and thinking how beautiful she was on his final visit to the house. Did Gerry let a man in who the Mccann's had paid off to get rid of her body. Was he talking to that other man to distract him from a man leaving the house with the body of a child? I wonder if that man was standing with his back to the house.

Another thing I was reading recently was the coffin that was laying in wake in a nearby church. The lid of that coffin remained closed by the relatives and it was a cremation. Could Madeleine's body of been cremated along with their relative?

Good article here with a video of the dogs in the apartment and also good observations about how the McCanns reacted to that

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/0...dnt-make-sense

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Good article here with a video of the dogs in the apartment and also good observations about how the McCanns reacted to that

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/0...dnt-make-sense

My God that video is pretty damning,first time I'de seen that.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

My God that video is pretty damning,first time I'de seen that.

Yeah it really is

[longstar]

lets look at the death of stuart lubbock in barrymore's house, it is said that he died before he was floating in the pool and also why where there injuries to stuart's anal, the police said that stuart suffered a violent sexual assault before he died, and he did not drown, and they said that he was thrown into that pool, the police knew that it was now a murder case, but they just dropped it, and all the fingers are pointed at barrymore, when there was a number of people in that house, so there was a mix of cover ups and blundering from the force, now the portuguese police where very close in getting the mccann parents to confess in what they know in what happened to maddie, then are police force flew to portugal and just said that the portuguese force where wrong, that proved that are force just did another cover up and blundering, but one thing that does stick out there is that why is scotland yard protecting the mccanns, there was a guy who had written a book in what really happened to maddie, and they jailed him, why, to shut him up from telling the truth, it seems a bit strange that the police can't tell in what happened in barrymore house and even in what happened to maddie, but they easily knew in what happened to shannon mathews and quickly knew that mick philpott killed his kids, look at ben needham, never once did his family get any support from the government or the police, why because he is from a working class background, you have to be from a middle or upper class background and have a respected job and be rich and famous to think you are good as gold in that life, if the mccann parents where living on a council estate, and not working, they would have there children taken from them, not once did social services try and have there children taken from them.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by longstar

lets look at the death of stuart lubbock in barrymore's house, it is said that he died before he was floating in the pool and also why where there injuries to stuart's anal, the police said that stuart suffered a violent sexual assault before he died, and he did not drown, and they said that he was thrown into that pool, the police knew that it was now a murder case, but they just dropped it, and all the fingers are pointed at barrymore, when there was a number of people in that house, so there was a mix of cover ups and blundering from the force, now the portuguese police where very close in getting the mccann parents to confess in what they know in what happened to maddie, then are police force flew to portugal and just said that the portuguese force where wrong, that proved that are force just did another cover up and blundering, but one thing that does stick out there is that why is scotland yard protecting the mccanns, there was a guy who had written a book in what really happened to maddie, and they jailed him, why, to shut him up from telling the truth, it seems a bit strange that the police can't tell in what happened in barrymore house and even in what happened to maddie, but they easily knew in what happened to shannon mathews and quickly knew that mick philpott killed his kids, look at ben needham, never once did his family get any support from the government or the police, why because he is from a working class background, you have to be from a middle or upper class background and have a respected job and be rich and famous to think you are good as gold in that life, if the mccann parents where living on a council estate, and not working, they would have there children taken from them, not once did social services try and have there children taken from them.

It's not often I agree with one of your posts, but there's always an exception to the rule

I've shared this a few times before but it's worth doing so again. Owen Jones dedicates a whole chapter of Chavs to the Maddie case (or rather, a comparison of attitudes towards her's and the Shannon Matthews one), and it's a striking example of how class relations are implicit in both the responses to similar stories such as these, and also in their treatment by the authorities. Capitalism has a lot to answer for:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...page&q&f=false

'Why Madeleine? Some commentators were remarkably honest about why, of all the injustices in the world, it was the tragedy of this one little girl that provoked such anguish. 'This kind of thing doesn't usually happen to people like us', lamented Allison Pearson in the Daily Mail. What Pearson meant by people like her was people from comfortable, middle-class backgrounds. Kidnappings, stabbings, murders; those are things you almost expected to happen to people living in Peckham or Glasgow. This sort of tragedy was not supposed to happen to folks you might bump into doing the weekly shop at Waitrose'. (2011, pp. 14-15)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's not often I agree with one of your posts, but there's always an exception to the rule

I've shared this a few times before but it's worth doing so again. Owen Jones dedicates a whole chapter of Chavs to the Maddie case (or rather, a comparison of attitudes towards her's and the Shannon Matthews one), and it's a striking example of how class relations are implicit in both the responses to similar stories such as these, and also in their treatment by the authorities. Capitalism has a lot to answer for:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...page&q&f=false

Class certainly is a reason why the McCanns neglect is forgiven by some people when you know if it were a couple from some council estate they would have been made out to be scumbags and the twins probaly would have been taken off them

[Vicky.]

The coffin makes more sense than the freezer I think. Especially given the McCanns were given keys to the local church (proven)

However, the freezer thing...there seems to be a bit of proof for that given DNA was found in the hire car and the material was consistent with...a frozen body thawing. Along with Gerry disposing of a freezer/fridge.

IMO not one theory makes sense completely. but the abduction theory I find least likely of all.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

The coffin makes more sense than the freezer I think. Especially given the McCanns were given keys to the local church (proven)

However, the freezer thing...there seems to be a bit of proof for that given DNA was found in the hire car and the material was consistent with...a frozen body thawing. Along with Gerry disposing of a freezer/fridge.

IMO not one theory makes sense completely. but the abduction theory I find least likely of all.

Well both could be true Vicky, she could have been put there and then moved to the coffin a while later. Them dumping a freezer in a rented apartment makes zero sense, who does that?

[Smithy]

I find some of the theories hard to believe, such as the friends helping them cover up her death why?), or pretending their friends daughter was maddie (again, why? Surely someone would have still noticed there was another little blonde girl missing)

But reading through these threads has definitely made me a lot more suspicious to what actually happened

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

I find some of the theories hard to believe, such as the friends helping them cover up her death why?), or pretending their friends daughter was maddie (again, why? Surely someone would have still noticed there was another little blonde girl missing)

But reading through these threads has definitely made me a lot more suspicious to what actually happened

I can believe some of the friends helped coverup...reasons...they were ALL sedating the kids.

However I don't believe the friends knew what happened tbh. Maybe with the exception of David Payne (something dodgy here..he was the last person besides the parents to claim to see Madeleine. he claims he was there for 15 mins, kate claims he was only there 15 seconds and didnt see the kids :S)

I think the friends lied about the checking. I think they all sedated the kids and then just left them. Then when Madeleine was 'discovered missing' they all panicked and agreed to pretend they had been checking on the kids as otherwise they could get in serious trouble for being such selfish neglectful arseholes.

I believe Russel might know a little more about the story, given the McCanns tried to get him to be the last person to 'see' Madeleine, but he appeared to click onto this so said that he never actually 'saw' her he just listened at the door.

So many questions...

But yeah, I don't believe ALL of the friends covered up, but I do think there is a possibility some helped. And I think the checking timeline was completely fabricated (which would also explain the ridiculous decision to sit writing out a checking timeline instead of actually going out to look for the child...covering arses)

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I can believe some of the friends helped coverup...reasons...they were ALL sedating the kids.

However I don't believe the friends knew what happened tbh. Maybe with the exception of David Payne (something dodgy here..he was the last person besides the parents to claim to see Madeleine. he claims he was there for 15 mins, kate claims he was only there 15 seconds and didnt see the kids :S)

I think the friends lied about the checking. I think they all sedated the kids and then just left them. Then when Madeleine was 'discovered missing' they all panicked and agreed to pretend they had been checking on the kids as otherwise they could get in serious trouble for being such selfish neglectful arseholes.

I believe Russel might know a little more about the story, given the McCanns tried to get him to be the last person to 'see' Madeleine, but he appeared to click onto this so said that he never actually 'saw' her he just listened at the door.

So many questions...

But yeah, I don't believe ALL of the friends covered up, but I do think there is a possibility some helped. And I think the checking timeline was completely fabricated (which would also explain the ridiculous decision to sit writing out a checking timeline instead of actually going out to look for the child...covering arses)

I think Tanner and Payne ( the baby bather) are in it past their necks

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I think Tanner and Payne ( the baby bather) are in it past their necks

Ah yes I forgot about Tanner. Yes she has a major part for some reason. Though I genuinely do think her sighting was all about pinning the blame on Murat. Given her sighting went from seeing next to nothing to recognizing Murat...who I think she knew prior to the incident. Gerry certainly did..

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ah yes I forgot about Tanner. Yes she has a major part for some reason. Though I genuinely do think her sighting was all about pinning the blame on Murat. Given her sighting went from seeing next to nothing to recognizing Murat...who I think she knew prior to the incident. Gerry certainly did..

From the time we went to Pdl and walked down the street Gerry claimed her never saw Tanner on ( wearing flip flops) I knew she was lying, the road is far too narrow ,no way could anyone walk down it unseen

I believe she was his lookout while he moved Maddie,she didn't see man with baby, Gerry placed Maddie in the flowerbed and went over chatting to the man to stop him being suspicious and that why cadaver was found in the garden

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I can believe some of the friends helped coverup...reasons...they were ALL sedating the kids.

However I don't believe the friends knew what happened tbh. Maybe with the exception of David Payne (something dodgy here..he was the last person besides the parents to claim to see Madeleine. he claims he was there for 15 mins, kate claims he was only there 15 seconds and didnt see the kids :S)

I think the friends lied about the checking. I think they all sedated the kids and then just left them. Then when Madeleine was 'discovered missing' they all panicked and agreed to pretend they had been checking on the kids as otherwise they could get in serious trouble for being such selfish neglectful arseholes.

I believe Russel might know a little more about the story, given the McCanns tried to get him to be the last person to 'see' Madeleine, but he appeared to click onto this so said that he never actually 'saw' her he just listened at the door.

So many questions...

But yeah, I don't believe ALL of the friends covered up, but I do think there is a possibility some helped. And I think the checking timeline was completely fabricated (which would also explain the ridiculous decision to sit writing out a checking timeline instead of actually going out to look for the child...covering arses)

But I don't really see what difference that makes? Whether the kids were drugged or not somebody still "took" Madeline to the best of their knowledge

How would lying benefit them in anyway?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

But I don't really see what difference that makes? Whether the kids were drugged or not somebody still "took" Madeline to the best of their knowledge

How would lying benefit them in anyway?

I think she died accidently and the friends knew that, if all the kids had been sedated when they were going out that would have been strong motivation for them all to lie because they could all lose their careers (they were all doctors) and possibly their own kids if Police found out theyd all drugged their kids

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[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I can believe some of the friends helped coverup...reasons...they were ALL sedating the kids.

However I don't believe the friends knew what happened tbh. Maybe with the exception of David Payne (something dodgy here..he was the last person besides the parents to claim to see Madeleine. he claims he was there for 15 mins, kate claims he was only there 15 seconds and didnt see the kids :S)

I think the friends lied about the checking. I think they all sedated the kids and then just left them. Then when Madeleine was 'discovered missing' they all panicked and agreed to pretend they had been checking on the kids as otherwise they could get in serious trouble for being such selfish neglectful arseholes.

I believe Russel might know a little more about the story, given the McCanns tried to get him to be the last person to 'see' Madeleine, but he appeared to click onto this so said that he never actually 'saw' her he just listened at the door.

So many questions...

But yeah, I don't believe ALL of the friends covered up, but I do think there is a possibility some helped. And I think the checking timeline was completely fabricated (which would also explain the ridiculous decision to sit writing out a checking timeline instead of actually going out to look for the child...covering arses)

The night before Maddie was reported missing, the tenant upstairs heard the pitiful crying of a child coming from the apartment beneath her. She said that this went on for something like 2 hours. I think that's when Maddie died from an accident. If she got up and climbed on the back of the sofa to reach the window, in her drugged state she could of fallen forward and banged her head.

[chuff me dizzy]

Brilliant blog and so right on Katie Hopkins ,who's doing Maddies cause no good by pushing " Neglect "

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[chuff me dizzy]

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[longstar]

from 2007 to 2009, the mccann's where harassing and intimating the staff at ocean club, and the staff at ocean club hold the key to what the mccann's where doing in the days before and after the abduction, and we know why they would not tell the real truth when the mccann's have friends in very high positions of power, and the the mccann's did not want anyone to find out that they heavily satated maddie, and there could be a very deep level that maddie was abused in some way in her short life, because an autopsy would spot that on first sight, but I can't say anymore on that because the mccann's could have are forum shut down, because of what we all have said, they have shut down other forums for saying things that they don't want found out, but there is something else to add, some people in middle and upper class backgrounds would have there children being molested and buggered by other higher class people, and its still happening to this day, its really a perverted ritual to them, if maddie died in an accident, just the same way as a kid runs across the road or trips into the garden pond, because you took your eye off the clock, or you are in another room or you are somewhere more far away, why would the mccanns depose their own kids body, and have her never be found, there is something that the mcann's don't want anyone to find out in what happened to her in life before she died, and its very very disturbing.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by longstar

from 2007 to 2009, the mccann's where harassing and intimating the staff at ocean club, and the staff at ocean club hold the key to what the mccann's where doing in the days before and after the abduction, and we know why they would not tell the real truth when the mccann's have friends in very high positions of power, and the the mccann's did not want anyone to find out that they heavily satated maddie, and there could be a very deep level that maddie was abused in some way in her short life, because an autopsy would spot that on first sight, but I can't say anymore on that because the mccann's could have are forum shut down, because of what we all have said, they have shut down other forums for saying things that they don't want found out, but there is something else to add, some people in middle and upper class backgrounds would have there children being molested and buggered by other higher class people, and its still happening to this day, its really a perverted ritual to them, if maddie died in an accident, just the same way as a kid runs across the road or trips into the garden pond, because you took your eye off the clock, or you are in another room or you are somewhere more far away, why would the mccanns depose their own kids body, and have her never be found, there is something that the mcann's don't want anyone to find out in what happened to her in life before she died, and its very very disturbing.

Talk about conspiracy theories.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by longstar

from 2007 to 2009, the mccann's where harassing and intimating the staff at ocean club, and the staff at ocean club hold the key to what the mccann's where doing in the days before and after the abduction, and we know why they would not tell the real truth when the mccann's have friends in very high positions of power, and the the mccann's did not want anyone to find out that they heavily satated maddie, and there could be a very deep level that maddie was abused in some way in her short life, because an autopsy would spot that on first sight, but I can't say anymore on that because the mccann's could have are forum shut down, because of what we all have said, they have shut down other forums for saying things that they don't want found out, but there is something else to add, some people in middle and upper class backgrounds would have there children being molested and buggered by other higher class people, and its still happening to this day, its really a perverted ritual to them, if maddie died in an accident, just the same way as a kid runs across the road or trips into the garden pond, because you took your eye off the clock, or you are in another room or you are somewhere more far away, why would the mccanns depose their own kids body, and have her never be found, there is something that the mcann's don't want anyone to find out in what happened to her in life before she died, and its very very disturbing.

The tide has turned on that now. Even the papers are having headlines about Maddie being dead. Their loss to Amaral appears to have changed things and they do not have such a grip on the media and such anymore.

What I do not understand is why Scotland Yard are being so ****ing dense, or believe the public are so dense. HOW can you reopen an investigation and immediately rule out the main suspects...not even investigate them. From the off it was declared the parents were not suspects. Also I find it rather strange that the team actually investigating is the homicide team though. I have slight hope that Madeleine will get justice. Only slight though.

I fully expect the investigation to come to a close (after the lovely weather season in Portugal mind...must take advantage of taxpayer funding) and we will be told that someone who is already dead took Madeleine...no proof, just expected to believe like the sheep they think we are. Won't wash now though IMO as too many people have actually looked at the files and discovered the lies and discrepancies..before it was only a few and everyone else believed the 'official' line.

But more and more people by the day are realising how ridiculous the abduction theory really is. It is those who do believe abduction who are the conspiracy theorists...as all actual evidence points elsewhere.