[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Wow, this thread is totally indicative of what is wrong with this site at the moment. The OP asked for opinions on an article and was immediately called racist and accused of calling Khan an extremist. Not everyone is as well informed on certain things. Instead of jumping and accusing and answering sarcastically maybe the better option is to try and educate people on matters rather than assume the worst in people which is how bad feeling festers and people stop posting on here for fear of being jumped on.

I have learnt plenty reading posts on issues I am ill informed on but had questioned something and had my questions treated as bigotry in some shape of form I wouldn't have asked again and then I would never have learned and continued woth jy original train of thought.

Fantastic post Annie,well said

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Wow, this thread is totally indicative of what is wrong with this site at the moment. The OP asked for opinions on an article and was immediately called racist and accused of calling Khan an extremist. Not everyone is as well informed on certain things. Instead of jumping and accusing and answering sarcastically maybe the better option is to try and educate people on matters rather than assume the worst in people which is how bad feeling festers and people stop posting on here for fear of being jumped on.

I have learnt plenty reading posts on issues I am ill informed on but had questioned something and had my questions treated as bigotry in some shape of form I wouldn't have asked again and then I would never have learned and continued woth jy original train of thought.

Extremely well put and the main reason I can't deal with the maturity of serious debates anymore. Its without a doubt the worst thing about politics. If you cannot keep an open mind and talk to someone without belittling them or anyone who thinks like them, then you're only going to make people think the opposite of what you believe.

You cannot expect 'uneducated' (as they call them) people to change their views on something, if you're going to be a condescending piece of **** to them.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

Taking posters down isn't going to stop young women wanting to be skinny.

No, but it's a start.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

I'm interested to know what British people think about a muslim man banning bikini clad women on adverts. We all know many Muslim men don't like their women to show any part of their body so is this the beginning of Muslims taking control of how we conduct our country? I myself am an overweight woman and I have no qualms about models showing off their bodies.

What about you?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ndon-transport

IF they don't like our culture and way of life ,go back to where those beliefs are normal,we live in a country that are used to these things,so why should we cow tow to backward thinking people.

[Withano]

It is odd that many self proclaimed "femininists" are outraged when they believe a male muslim tells them that they should wear a burqa, but are fine when a male ad director tells them to wear a bikini.
Its even more odd when they are further outraged when a male muslim has clearly made an active effort to prove he is against both of these things.
If you put male muslims in a spot where they can never win, then you should expect your argument (and yourself in general) to be taken less seriously.
The male muslim in discussion is a better feminist than anyone against this decision imo.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

It is odd that many self proclaimed "femininists" are outraged when they believe a male muslim tells them that they should wear a burqa, but are fine when a male ad director tells them to wear a bikini.
Its even more odd when they are further outraged when a male muslim has clearly made an active effort to prove he is against both of these things.
If you put male muslims in a spot where they can never win, then you should expect your argument (and yourself in general) to be taken less seriously.
The male muslim in discussion is a better feminist than anyone against this decision imo.

The difference between the male Muslim and an ad director is that she chooses to do so for the ad director for career reasons. No one is forcing her to do it, she could leave at any time.

I don''t approve of women being sexualised or being too thin but that doesn't compare in my opinion to the 'property' message a burka gives out.

No man anywhere owns any woman, much as he may like to think he does - it is all in his silly little egotistical head.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The difference between the male Muslim and an ad director is that she chooses to do so for the ad director for career reasons. No one is forcing her to do it, she could leave at any time.

I don''t approve of women being sexualised or being too thin but that doesn't compare in my opinion to the 'property' message a burka gives out.

A model will not get very far in their career if they walked out of jobs because they didn't like the clothes. You are defending what is essentially an illusion of choice.

There's a lot of Muslim women who would stand for the right to wear the Burkha, Hijab and other forms of religious head scarfs though. Is it really a feminist thing to dictate what they are allowed to wear because you disagree with it? How is that any different?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

I'm interested to know what British people think about a muslim man banning bikini clad women on adverts. We all know many Muslim men don't like their women to show any part of their body so is this the beginning of Muslims taking control of how we conduct our country? I myself am an overweight woman and I have no qualms about models showing off their bodies.

What about you?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ndon-transport

I'm on his side. The average woman does not look like the models we see on the ads. I'm not offended by those ads, but i think as long as you're healthy you don't need to be a certain weight. It seems to me that those ads with women in bikini objectify women. There's more to a woman than the way she looks.