[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

At our school there's a lot who pack clothes into their bags and change after school, and a lot who wear their own jumpers and get ISO for it.

Kids tended to take their ties off at my high school or put their own fleeces over the school blazer if it was extra cold. That's just people being people.

Doesn't mean they're being prevented from freedom of expression nor does it mean they truant because they have to wear a uniform, especially when most of them truant IN the uniform.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

At our school there's a lot who pack clothes into their bags and change after school, and a lot who wear their own jumpers and get ISO for it.

Sounds like they have a lot of free time to express themselves

[user104658]

Urgh, I would have hated having to pick out my own clothes every day / think about what to have ready . Having a uniform was so easy... Just a row of white shirts and black trousers and my tie. Ahh. Simplicity. Gives you MORE free time is anything. I rarely even bothered getting changed after school, I pretty much only wore my own clothes at the weekend .

[user104658]

I'd also add that as yet I haven't had a job where I didn't have to wear a uniform... And again I prefer it that way for convenience sake. No wondering what to wear or digging about for clothes... Just "Is uniform washed and dried? Yes. Done."

I don't need to be trying to pick out clothes every day! Yawn! Who has the time .

I also find it sort of worrying that the only way "kids these days" know how to express or individualise themselves is through fashion choice. Ffs. "I am me because I have this hairstyle and I wear this jacket and that tells you what you need to know about my identity". Nooo. In fact one of the major benefits of a school uniform is that it makes kids LESS likely to "tribalise" and "stick with their own"... It promotes integration, and lets people get to actually know each other, and for their individuality to shine through their personality and not their t-shirt slogan.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'd also add that as yet I haven't had a job where I didn't have to wear a uniform... And again I prefer it that way for convenience sake. No wondering what to wear or digging about for clothes... Just "Is uniform washed and dried? Yes. Done."

I don't need to be trying to pick out clothes every day! Yawn! Who has the time .

I also find it sort of worrying that the only way "kids these days" know how to express or individualise themselves is through fashion choice. Ffs. "I am me because I have this hairstyle and I wear this jacket and that tells you what you need to know about my identity". Nooo. In fact one of the major benefits of a school uniform is that it makes kids LESS likely to "tribalise" and "stick with their own"... It promotes integration, and lets people get to actually know each other, and for their individuality to shine through their personality and not their t-shirt slogan.

I don't wear a uniform for my job but I work in an office in a small company and it's all very casual, I can just wear clothes that I would normally wear but my husband he doesn't have a uniform but he has to wear clothes that are more formal than he would normally wear so he has had to get a whole separate wardrobe of clothes for work because you can't wear the same shirt twice a week if it's not a uniform kind of a thing

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't wear a uniform for my job but I work in an office in a small company and it's all very casual, I can just wear clothes that I would normally wear but my husband he doesn't have a uniform but he has to wear clothes that are more formal than he would normally wear so he has had to get a whole separate wardrobe of clothes for work because you can't wear the same shirt twice a week if it's not a uniform kind of a thing

Exactly, I can wear the same stuff like 4 days in a row and get away with it...

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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Exactly, I can wear the same stuff like 4 days in a row and get away with it...

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I don't mean without washing them, i just mean if it's your own clothes you need to get alot of different stuff, where as if it was a uniform shirt, you could have two or three just and wash them in between

[Cherie]

No wonder people are turning to online gambling, if TS isn't bothering to change his shirt

[Cal.]

Saying that I don't wear designer brands and go to college dressed in Primark clothes!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Saying that I don't wear designer brands and go to college dressed in Primark clothes!

People are less concerned with how other people dress when you start getting older anyway

[Marsh.]

*looks Niamh up and down*

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

*looks Niamh up and down*

[jaxie]

I think that a uniform is a good idea in that it gives the children a sense of belonging to the school and being part of a team. Though you might argue that rather than it helping poor families it is an extra expense. I don't think it aids learning particularly and the only real benefit is a sense of belonging.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I think that a uniform is a good idea in that it gives the children a sense of belonging to the school and being part of a team. Though you might argue that rather than it helping poor families it is an extra expense. I don't think it aids learning particularly and the only real benefit is a sense of belonging.

I think there's a flip side to that as wearing a uniform can be beneficial for poorer children who don't have a wardrobe full of expensive clothes. It prevents embarrassment and puts everyone on an equal level. All round I think a uniform is a good thing.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I think there's a flip side to that as wearing a uniform can be beneficial for poorer children who don't have a wardrobe full of expensive clothes. It prevents embarrassment and puts everyone on an equal level. All round I think a uniform is a good thing.

Yeah i agree.

I asked my 16 year old daughter actually what she thinks about having to wear a uniform and she said she much prefers it because she doesn't have to spend ages trying to decide what to wear every morning