[Kizzy]

My local Tory MP is under investigation for electoral fraud... I shan't be voting for him.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

My local Tory MP is under investigation for electoral fraud... I shan't be voting for him.

that's it guilty until proven innocent that's the unjust labour way

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

that's it guilty until proven innocent that's the unjust labour way

I didn't suggest he was guilty did I?

I stated he was under investigation is all

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I didn't suggest he was guilty did I?

I stated he was under investigation is all

An ordinary individual under investigation of fraud would almost for sure not be allowed to continue in the same job,being at the very least suspended.

Obviously that mustn't apply to Conservative representatives.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

My local Tory MP is under investigation for electoral fraud... I shan't be voting for him.

I doubt he was relying on your vote.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I doubt he was relying on your vote.

Why...Is my working class council house dwelling vote not good enough or summat? :/

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why...Is my working class council house dwelling vote not good enough or summat? :/

No, because you're not a Tory supporter, you're a Labour supporter... making the massive assumption that no one working class or living in a council house ever voted Tory.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

No, because you're not a Tory supporter, you're a Labour supporter... making the massive assumption that no one working class or living in a council house ever voted Tory.

I pity anyone that does because voting Tory when you are of the working class is pretty much shooting yourself in the foot.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

No, because you're not a Tory supporter, you're a Labour supporter... making the massive assumption that no one working class or living in a council house ever voted Tory.

Seeing as mine is a conservative borough then you would be wrong on that sorry. Your assumption that I'm not aware of this is way off.

[Glenn.]

I'd rather do away with our current bank holidays than have Labour in charge

[Kizzy]

Hilary Ben is the next blair, he sabotaged Milliband at the debates in Leeds during the GE.

[Withano]

Im starting to feel like this election, for most people, is choosing between a poorer leader with better policies, or a better leader with worser policies. I just dont understand why theyre choosing 5 years of worser policies for the sake of one mans personality.

[Beso]

1 fact i can add is i am far better off financiaĺly under the torys than i ever was under labour.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by parmnion

1 fact i can add is i am far better off financiaĺly under the torys than i ever was under labour.

Nearly everyone is, especially those who actually work ...Though VAT is a massive issue that teresa may must put to bed

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

Nearly everyone is, especially those who actually work ...Though VAT is a massive issue that teresa may must put to bed

You just make siht up as you go along.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

You just make siht up as you go along.

oh you swore how impressive...did you think that up yourself or did the trade union write that for you

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Withano

Im starting to feel like this election, for most people, is choosing between a poorer leader with better policies, or a better leader with worser policies. I just dont understand why theyre choosing 5 years of worser policies for the sake of one mans personality.

worser doesnt exist

[DemolitionRed]

you know, I'm alright jock. Husband runs a cash rich business. I don't need to work but I choose to because I consider my work a hobby. We have a very nice home in a prime part of inner London for a mere pittance. We ski in the French and Italian Alps in the winter and travel the globe to different climbing destinations in the summer. To top it all we will both get a whopping inheritance at some point on the future... so why the hell would I support Labour politics? I mean, I'm alright jock!

Short answer... we have kids who are growing into young adults and I don't like watching our present government fcuk them over.

[Amy Jade]

Will they tease voters with this and then if elected never implement it? most likely.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Will they tease voters with this and then if elected never implement it? most likely.

Could do just that, the same as the £10 an hour minimum wage.
The country would be heading for bankruptcy, so many small businesses could not afford it.
Nice thought, but we have to live in the real world. You can't have your cake and eat it.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Could do just that, the same as the £10 an hour minimum wage.
The country would be heading for bankruptcy, so many small businesses could not afford it.
Nice thought, but we have to live in the real world. You can't have your cake and eat it.

How can anyone survive on £7.50 an hour? That's £296.25 for a 39.5 hour week after tax and NI.

Fine if you are living with your parents but if you are on your own and burdened with essential costs such as Rent, council tax, energy bills, food shopping, travel fares; you simply can't survive. You certainly won't be buying cake to eat!!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

How can anyone survive on £7.50 an hour? That's £296.25 for a 39.5 hour week after tax and NI.

Fine if you are living with your parents but if you are on your own and burdened with essential costs such as Rent, council tax, energy bills, food shopping, travel fares; you simply can't survive. You certainly won't be buying cake to eat!!

Excellent points.

I see no reason why Labour would not honour the £10 min wage.
They never turned back on bringing a minimum wage in,despite the Conservatives being totally against it and all saying companies could not afford a minimum wage.
All which proved to be rubbish.

As for extra Bank Holidays. It's not that many more and we have far less than some other Nations.
This is 2 good moves of Labour.
Far better than the ugly threats of the Conservatives towards the sick,disabled and weakest of society for sure, that unbelievably gets support as people vote Conservative.

If people support May and her hoods doing that no wonder they won't support a decent minimum wage and a few more Bank Holidays.
That speaks volumes.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

How can anyone survive on £7.50 an hour? That's £296.25 for a 39.5 hour week after tax and NI.

Fine if you are living with your parents but if you are on your own and burdened with essential costs such as Rent, council tax, energy bills, food shopping, travel fares; you simply can't survive. You certainly won't be buying cake to eat!!

I don't disagree with a rise in minimum wages, I just think a 25% in one go would be hard to handle for some smaller business.
As long as it is staggered I have absolutely no problem with it going even higher than the £10 mentioned.
As to the cake, it was the politicians that can't have their cake and eat it, not us mere voters.

[user104658]

They're already pushing towards a £9 an hour minimum wage, I don't see how the extra £1 suddenly means that "small businesses would be bankrupt" (if they wouldn't already under current Tory plans)...

But yeah, if it's impossible to live on the minimum wage then something has gone very wrong with an economy. Of course, the two major factors that currently make it impossible - in my opinion - are not the wage levels themselves, but rather, sky-high cost of essentials. Private rent, utility bills, fuel. Those are the things that make it impossible.