[Northern Monkey]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.e...e-minister/amp

[Cherie]

Now if you are looking for something reeking of desperation, that's it

[reece(:]

A scaremongering tea

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.e...e-minister/amp

Crock of sh*te. But nothing like using the good ol' "Terror" buzzword in your election propaganda, really gets the proletarian shaking in his boots.

My dodgy copy of Donnie Darko probably killed hundreds, too

[joeysteele]

Of course he doesn't, absolutely not.

[smudgie]

He has a point, he can't bring himself to say he would arm the subs.
I can understand his viewpoint ( not that I agree with it) , but he has to sit and write that letter telling the Vanguard class subs to press the button if we are attacked.
I think it simply goes against his principles.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by smudgie

He has a point, he can't bring himself to say he would arm the subs.
I can understand his viewpoint ( not that I agree with it) , but he has to sit and write that letter telling the Vanguard class subs to press the button if we are attacked.
I think it simply goes against his principles.

Jesus Christ, when are people going to realise that "if we are attacked" it's already too late and it doesn't matter who presses what buttons.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Jesus Christ, when are people going to realise that "if we are attacked" it's already too late and it doesn't matter who presses what buttons.

Pretty much.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Jesus Christ, when are people going to realise that "if we are attacked" it's already too late and it doesn't matter who presses what buttons.

Well Jesus Christ, I think we will hopefully know we are going to be attacked before we actually get nuked and nuke the idiots before we fry.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Well Jesus Christ, I think we will hopefully know we are going to be attacked before we actually get nuked and nuke the idiots before we fry.

Doesn't work that way I'm afraid. They launch, we launch or we lauch, they launch. There is no "one sided" nuclear strike. If we are attacked with nuclear weapons, or ever fire a nuclear weapon, your best and only hope is to be within the immediate blast radius of one of the first few bombs so that your death is as quick and painless as possible. This is the reality of Nuclear weapons and Nuclear warfare. The sooner people get their heads around that, the better.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Doesn't work that way I'm afraid. They launch, we launch or we lauch, they launch. There is no "one sided" nuclear strike. If we are attacked with nuclear weapons, or ever fire a nuclear weapon, your best and only hope is to be within the immediate blast radius of one of the first few bombs so that your death is as quick and painless as possible. This is the reality of Nuclear weapons and Nuclear warfare. The sooner people get their heads around that, the better.

Yes, we will all fry together.
However knowing that we will press the button if we have to instead of just sitting like a pan of fishfingers waiting to fry would help.
Saying he would not be happy with drones picking off terrorist leaders doesn't help either.
The fact that the labour spokesman had to come out and explain that his views are not labour policy is quite telling.

[ebandit]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Doesn't work that way I'm afraid. They launch, we launch or we lauch, they launch. There is no "one sided" nuclear strike. If we are attacked with nuclear weapons,.

.........luckily only a limited no of nations have nuclear capability.......

i believe russia usa uk france china india pakistan north korea..........possibly

israel

greatest terrorist threat is very much low tech

Mark L

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Doesn't work that way I'm afraid. They launch, we launch or we lauch, they launch. There is no "one sided" nuclear strike. If we are attacked with nuclear weapons, or ever fire a nuclear weapon, your best and only hope is to be within the immediate blast radius of one of the first few bombs so that your death is as quick and painless as possible. This is the reality of Nuclear weapons and Nuclear warfare. The sooner people get their heads around that, the better.

This is true.One up and all up.
There has been talk of small scale tactical nukes though.If one sides forces are getting hammered.Obviously you wouldn't use it against another nuclear power like Russia or China but i could see Trump using against NK or Iran.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Well Jesus Christ, I think we will hopefully know we are going to be attacked before we actually get nuked and nuke the idiots before we fry.

What would be the point? I mean, we'd all pretty much be dust, and the world would be in ruin, what is the point in contributing to the end of mankind with more nukes? By that point the world as we know it is over. Launching nukes at that point is just making sure all humans die.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Chewy

What would be the point? I mean, we'd all pretty much be dust, and the world would be in ruin, what is the point in contributing to the end of mankind with more nukes? By that point the world as we know it is over. Launching nukes at that point is just making sure all humans die.

Strong points Chewy.

Again I am reminded of a song from the 1960s I have on a cd by Barry Maguire.
It's called Eve of Destruction.
A line says, '' once the button is pushed,there's no running away,there'll be no one to save with the World in a grave''.

Terrifying thought.

[Shaun]

Are we really having a conversation about who nukes who first in a thread having a go about Jeremy Corbyn possibly welcoming terrorist attacks?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Are we really having a conversation about who nukes who first in a thread having a go about Jeremy Corbyn possibly welcoming terrorist attacks?

yes or would you rather do what labour always do, duck the tough questions

[Northern Monkey]

I mean i agree with it.I've been saying it about Corbyn for ages.It is transparent as feck though that this comes out again now in the run up to the electrician.It's too obvious that it's election propaganda even if it is true.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I mean i agree with it.I've been saying it about Corbyn for ages.It is transparent as feck though that this comes out again now in the run up to the electrician.It's too obvious that it's election propaganda even if it is true.

His interview this morning didn't help

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by smudgie

His interview this morning didn't help

I just watched it....





Is he deliberately trying to lose this election or what?

Sat there playing dodgeball with Marr's questions on important security and defence issues

Then the shadow defence secretary on the Daily Politics today trying to smooth it out and totally contradicting Corbyn.

It's embarrassing to spectate

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.e...e-minister/amp

Also not only will he let everyone and his cat in he will invite them in and I doubt he will be too fastidious about security checks - he would be more concerned about their human rights!

[Kizzy]

[Kizzy]

Yes that's what people want in the leader of the free world someone who needs babysitting :/

[Beso]

Of course he does and i am not sure why it is such a surprise considering how much IRA cock hes sucked over the years...ooo gerry, oh martin..deeper deeper.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Of course he does and i am not sure why it is such a surprise considering how much IRA cock hes sucked over the years...ooo gerry, oh martin..deeper deeper.

Wasn't it blair who oversaw the Irish peace process?