[the truth]

hopefully the next time there is any ship sinking it wont be women saved first...after all that would be sexist and patronising wouldnt it?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Livia?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Deirdre

There is absolutely no need to boo her, that's bullying. Not her fault she was born into a wealthy family. Yeah people might not agree that she has a right to be there, but so what. Keep your judgemental opinion to yourself I say.

People aren't booing her because of the family she was born into. You're right, that's not her fault.

What she's getting booed for is using the fact she was born into that family to get herself into positions that she simply is not qualified or suitable for.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

People aren't booing her because of the family she was born into. You're right, that's not her fault.

What she's getting booed for is using the fact she was born into that family to get herself into positions that she simply is not qualified or suitable for.

like the german chancellor acting as if she is the ruler of europe?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

like the german chancellor acting as if she is the ruler of europe?

Not really comparable.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

hopefully the next time there is any ship sinking it wont be women saved first...after all that would be sexist and patronising wouldnt it?

Come on truth, get your arse out of the 1950's! "Women and children first" hasn't been in effect for like half a century! The drill on a sinking ship would be to prioritise those who are least likely to survive if they end up in the water; children, the elderly, the disabled, and anyone who is injured. Healthy adults come last, male and female.

Stop winding yourself up about equality issues that don't even exist any more! You keep getting your knickers in a twist over the number of young lads killed in WW2 as well... When we don't even HAVE conscription any more and (realistically) never will again, let alone male-only conscription.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Come on truth, get your arse out of the 1950's! "Women and children first" hasn't been in effect for like half a century! The drill on a sinking ship would be to prioritise those who are least likely to survive if they end up in the water; children, the elderly, the disabled, and anyone who is injured. Healthy adults come last, male and female.

Stop winding yourself up about equality issues that don't even exist any more! You keep getting your knickers in a twist over the number of young lads killed in WW2 as well... When we don't even HAVE conscription any more and (realistically) never will again, let alone male-only conscription.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

hopefully the next time there is any ship sinking it wont be women saved first...after all that would be sexist and patronising wouldnt it?

You're probably not aware but one of the main reasons the Titanic went down in history is not because of her size or because it was her maiden voyage but because it saved women and children first. That phrase had been romantically used for about a hundred years prior the sinking of the Titanic, though its never been maritime law. The truth is, in every single passenger ship that sank before the Titanic, survivors always reported that it was "every man for himself" and therefore, very few women and children survived.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

You're probably not aware but one of the main reasons the Titanic went down in history is not because of her size or because it was her maiden voyage but because it saved women and children first. That phrase had been romantically used for about a hundred years prior the sinking of the Titanic, though its never been maritime law. The truth is, in every single passenger ship that sank before the Titanic, survivors always reported that it was "every man for himself" and therefore, very few women and children survived.

I totally read that first line as "The reason the Titanic went down was because they saved women and children first"

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I totally read that first line as "The reason the Titanic went down was because they saved women and children first"

It's true. The men were heavier. If they'd gotten all of the largest men off first, it might have stayed afloat...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's true. The men were heavier. If they'd gotten all of the largest men off first, it might have stayed afloat...

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