[tb24259]

I don't think Raph is jealous of Andrew at all. I'm betting he simply doesn't approve of Andrew evicting Sam and taking that money too

[Kazanne]

Raph is a walking contradiction , that's for sure.

[azi]

His rant was so bizarre!
Andrew kinda won. He makes the final and has 30k. Raph saying he might look bad makes no sense because Andrew is done... he doesn't need the public to like him.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by azi

His rant was so bizarre!
Andrew kinda won. He makes the final and has 30k. Raph saying he might look bad makes no sense because Andrew is done... he doesn't need the public to like him.

They didn't agree on taking the money, but they're still friends.

[joeysteele]

Most housemates on BB are walking contradictions but Raph has always maintained he is there for the experience.
It's others who indicated they weren't there for the money such as andrew throwing a tantrum at Simone for inferring he was and needed it.
Then being the one to press for it.

Fine he got it and that's good for him but there's a massive contradiction ignored again only to get at Raph.
Unbelievable.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Most housemates on BB are walking contradictions but Raph has always maintained he is there for the experience.
It's others who indicated they weren't there for the money such as andrew throwing a tantrum at Simone for inferring he was and needed it.
Then being the one to press for it.

Fine he got it and that's good for him but there's a massive contradiction ignored again only to get at Raph.
Unbelievable.

They just didn't agree on that issue. But they're still on friendly terms and that's very mature on both parts

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They just didn't agree on that issue. But they're still on friendly terms and that's very mature on both parts

Absolutely right.

[Underscore]

Innit

[Littlegreen]

What he said was bang on the money, evicting Sam to get the extra cash was weak - obvious and weak.

- Would I myself have done what Andrew had, absolutely. Would I have evicted Sam to get the extra money, damn yes.

But then I can say that as a viewer because I haven't spent 8 weeks with those people.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

What he said was bang on the money, evicting Sam to get the extra cash was weak - obvious and weak.

- Would I myself have done what Andrew had, absolutely. Would I have evicted Sam to get the extra money, damn yes.

But then I can say that as a viewer because I haven't spent 8 weeks with those people.

How was it weak?..took a lot of nerve to do that then evict someone face to face as well.

What i would class as weak and obvious is raph picking his clique for any task reward he has recieved this series


Wouldnt you say that is more weak and obvious?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

What he said was bang on the money, evicting Sam to get the extra cash was weak - obvious and weak.

- Would I myself have done what Andrew had, absolutely. Would I have evicted Sam to get the extra money, damn yes.

But then I can say that as a viewer because I haven't spent 8 weeks with those people.

Raph in the same situation would have done exactly what Andrew did, he's just trying to appear to be the bigger person,but its all a load of BS

[Beso]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Raph in the same situation would have done exactly what Andrew did, he's just trying to appear to be the bigger person,but its all a load of BS

Spot on.

Anyone there for the experience would want that experience to carry on.....if that means taking some cash and evicting someone for your time to carry on then so be it....being fake and talking **** in the diary room about someone who just did what you woulld have done is stupid...hes not as clever as he thinks.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

What he said was bang on the money, evicting Sam to get the extra cash was weak - obvious and weak.

- Would I myself have done what Andrew had, absolutely. Would I have evicted Sam to get the extra money, damn yes.

But then I can say that as a viewer because I haven't spent 8 weeks with those people.

Weak? Was the smart thing to do. I am sure Chanelle brought it up on the sofas before the choice had even been made...so she was obviously thinking along the same lines too.

Andrews sister was defending him on FB all day yesterday you know...saying andrew would definitely not kick out Sam so he could bag the extra 15k...that he would chose someone else as he had already won 18k

I cannot stand andrew at all, but he did the sensible thing and I don't get Raphs problem tbh. He seems to be against anyone wanting money at all going from what he has said over the series and how against Joe he was for Joe wanting cash (even telling Deborah that she wasnt there for the money, when she had just said she was ). I mean, if he doesn't struggle for money and couldn't find use for extra, fair enough. But he seems to judge everyone else who does need money.

[Paula D]

I normally can't stand Raph but he's right on this one.

It's the fact that Andrew kicked up such a **** storm when Simone said he was there for the money that would piss me off. He should have owned it.

He had his hand on the buzzer before BB was finished speaking ffs.

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by Paula D

I normally can't stand Raph but he's right on this one.

It's the fact that Andrew kicked up such a **** storm when Simone said he was there for the money that would piss me off. He should have owned it.

He had his hand on the buzzer before BB was finished speaking ffs.

They had obviously discussed it in the hotel before coming in, I don't know why Andrew made a big song and dance over it.

Simone was made to look like a liar when she was spot on.

[Beso]

He may not be bothered about the money..but like andrew he is there for the experience...so he would have pressed it ao he could carry on that experience..just like andrew did.

[Beso]

Hey littlegreen.


Do you think raph picking his clique for any task reward he was given was weak and obvious?...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Hey littlegreen.


Do you think raph picking his clique for any task reward he was given was weak and obvious?...

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Hey littlegreen.


Do you think raph picking his clique for any task reward he was given was weak and obvious?...

It would be obvious, but it's not the same as knocking out your only competitor for cash. Andrew already had the money from the steal. He just wanted MORE.


I think he's only had a reward/party for his birthday, anyway?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

It would be obvious, but it's not the same as knocking out your only competitor for cash. Andrew already had the money from the steal. He just wanted MORE.


I think he's only had a reward/party for his birthday, anyway?

Correct it is not the same..andrews move took stregnth and guts..raphs decisions were weak and predictable.

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Correct it is not the same..andrews move took stregnth and guts..raphs decisions were weak and predictable.

But your comparing a treat to a task, to a housemate easily evicting another for money.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

But your comparing a treat to a task, to a housemate easily evicting another for money.

What did you want to happen?

Did you expect andrew to just let someone else press it so he could be evicted penniless?..

All he did was man up and press the button so his experience could last longer...just like raphs reasoning would have been the same.

For raph to rip him to bits saying he was weak and obvious is very hypocritical as his decisions when he has had a choice have all been obvious and weak.

Not that i expected anything else because raphs so butt hurt another more facinating, likeable and popular gay has entered his village.


Raging at joe about money and how it shouldnt be about money yet brings it up to slag someone off.pathetic

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

It would be obvious, but it's not the same as knocking out your only competitor for cash. Andrew already had the money from the steal. He just wanted MORE.


I think he's only had a reward/party for his birthday, anyway?

You've already said you would have done the same as Andrew and if he was being honest Raph would have done it too,he's not said a word to Hannah how also pressed the buzzer and was so desperate she pressed before time

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You've already said you would have done the same as Andrew and if he was being honest Raph would have done it too,he's not said a word to Hannah how also pressed the buzzer and was so desperate she pressed before time

The buzzer money isn't his issue, he's calling the money made from Andrew evicting Sam "tainted" which it is. Because it wasn't earned through the public deciding that he should be the last remaining second-chance housemate.

Raph wasn't calling the buzzer press "weak", the decision to knock out Sam was. (Marcus even said that in the intro)

- which I think everybody on here said yesterday was a predictable decision and in other words weak.

[Underscore]

Innit