[smudgie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Wow, when did that change? Up until a year ago it was anything under 1600w

Changes this September, so maybe starts on Friday.

[Crimson Dynamo]

go to any general auction and you can pick up a 1600w for about a tenner

[Brillopad]

900w is too low and will make vaccuming a much more cumbersome job. That's EU 'progress' for you - clearly a decision made by men who likely have never vacuumed in their lives.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

900w is too low and will make vaccuming a much more cumbersome job. That's EU 'progress' for you - clearly a decision made by men who likely have never vacuumed in their lives.

And you try and throw the sexist label at me!
I do my own vaccuming and i go around to my parents and do theirs as well 'cos they're getting on and don't find it easy.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by JTM45

And you try and throw the sexist label at me!
I do my own vaccuming and i go around to my parents and do theirs as well 'cos they're getting on and don't find it easy.

Of course many men do do the vacuuming but I bet those Brussels bureaucrats that make these decisions don't.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

900w is too low and will make vaccuming a much more cumbersome job. That's EU 'progress' for you - clearly a decision made by men who likely have never vacuumed in their lives.

Educate yourself

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/home-...right/page/0/2

[DemolitionRed]

The good news is, Henry uses 620w. The older style Dyson uses 1190w but now have a range of 14 vacuum cleaners that sit at 900w or less. The other thing is, manufacturers are allowed to continue selling high wattage vacuums providing they don't make or buy in from abroad new stock.

The point of this is, high efficiency can still be used by using less energy because we now have the technology to do that, if we didn't, Dyson wouldn't have been able to make 14 low energy cleaners. It will cost us less in electricity and its globally friendly.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

The good news is, Henry uses 620w. The older style Dyson uses 1190w but now have a range of 14 vacuum cleaners that sit at 900w or less. The other thing is, manufacturers are allowed to continue selling high wattage vacuums providing they don't make or buy in from abroad new stock.

The point of this is, high efficiency can still be used by using less energy because we now have the technology to do that, if we didn't, Dyson wouldn't have been able to make 14 low energy cleaners. It will cost us less in electricity and its globally friendly.

Oh. Well Henry is like 20x better than a Dyson so maybe this proves size isn't everything...

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Oh. Well Henry is like 20x better than a Dyson so maybe this proves size isn't everything...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...u-need-4125836

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Oh. Well Henry is like 20x better than a Dyson so maybe this proves size isn't everything...

Absolutely!!

[user104658]

Forget pets and asthma sufferers... What about those of us who have messy 5 year olds whose favourite snack is teeny, tiny cut up cubes of cheese .

[Brillopad]

http://dysonmedic.co.uk/new-eu-900w-...eptember-2017/

[DemolitionRed]

Reconditioned machines are not restricted under EU law. In that case, big powered Dysons will be around forever.

[the truth]

theyre farking eejiots...why dont they try doing their own accounts for the first time in 20 years or reducing corporate fraud at all time levels running to 100s of trillions?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by the truth

theyre farking eejiots...why dont they try doing their own accounts for the first time in 20 years or reducing corporate fraud at all time levels running to 100s of trillions?

Yeah this.

[Brillopad]

https://www.bbench.co.uk/single-post...be-shattered-1

I think this piece does a lot to help dispel all the ridiculous scaremongering and downright lies from the remain camp to stop Brexit.

Also, as I stated in a previous thread, the hard Brexit, soft Brexit debacle is a con created by bitter remoaners. Soft Brexit is a Brexit in name only - effectively a no-Brexit. It is a blatant insult to everyone, whatever side of the debate, to expect them to buy into it.

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/col...EU-exit-at-all

[user104658]

None of it is referenced or cited at all, though, so how can it dispel anything? He's just saying stuff without providing any links to actual evidence if what he's saying. I'm not saying it's untrue (I couldn't say either way) or badly written... Just that it holds no more weight than any forum or social media post. It's just one guy sharing his thoughts with no verified facts or figures .

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

None of it is referenced or cited at all, though, so how can it dispel anything? He's just saying stuff without providing any links to actual evidence if what he's saying. I'm not saying it's untrue (I couldn't say either way) or badly written... Just that it holds no more weight than any forum or social media post. It's just one guy sharing his thoughts with no verified facts or figures .

It makes sense though and I doubt he would have put it out there if it was incorrect, as I'm sure the main points mentioned could fairly easily be proved or disproved with a bit of research.

https://www.wto.org/english/res_e/pu...e/wtocan_e.pdf

Haven't had time to read the above as too long but would imagine an answer would be in there somewhere.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-36029211

https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-jobs-and-eu/

[MTVN]

This article was written a month before the referendum even happened

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by MTVN

This article was written a month before the referendum even happened

How does that affect The points he makes though?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

How does that affect The points he makes though?

It dates from a time when both sides were largely speculating and in the context of the referendum campaign. There must be better and more up to date analyses now that we're more than a year past the vote

[Kizzy]

'With a seat at the WTO, we will no doubt organise better trade deals for Britain instead of being tied to the failed Common Commercial Policy of the EU. Those who support Brexit are the true champions of globalisation, not the failed regionalisation of the EU that has caused abject misery across Europe.'

Well well who would have thought that brexit would mean more globalisation, let's hope these WTO deals are tied to free movement, I'll laugh my arse off.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'With a seat at the WTO, we will no doubt organise better trade deals for Britain instead of being tied to the failed Common Commercial Policy of the EU. Those who support Brexit are the true champions of globalisation, not the failed regionalisation of the EU that has caused abject misery across Europe.'

Well well who would have thought that brexit would mean more globalisation, let's hope these WTO deals are tied to free movement, I'll laugh my arse off.

No they are not!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

No they are not!

How do you know? It hasn't happened yet :/

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How do you know? It hasn't happened yet :/

Because I have read it somewhere. I'll dig it out later as I don't have time now.