[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Life is the point though? Why isn't that good enough?

Exactly, so we just mooch along as there is something better to come, I don't think so! I'm probably going to hell anyway so may as well enjoy where I am

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I'm afraid it's hope over not a scintilla of evidence


Can you explain how it works scientifically using the laws of the universe and the elements of the periodic table?

You can't explain how love works using the laws of the universe and the elements of the periodic table.

[Livia]

LOL... you are a miserable sod, LT.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Livia

LOL... you are a miserable sod, LT.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

LOL... you are a miserable sod, LT.

[MTVN]

I do. I feel like I'm a bit naive to do so sometimes but I just feel like we're such complicated creatures inhabiting such a complicated universe that itd be silly to think that this small life is all that there is

[Ross.]

Yes I do, so many small things that have happened to me personally make me believe that there’s a life after death and I’m being watched over by those I’ve lost

I have no concrete evidence to prove it of course (don’t start LT), but I see no harm in believing

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ross.

Yes I do, so many small things that have happened to me personally make me believe that there’s a life after death and I’m being watched over by those I’ve lost

I have no concrete evidence to prove it of course (don’t start LT), but I see no harm in believing

I agree Ross.

Like you I have come across things that have no real scientific or physical explanation.
Without looking for same myself and from my teenage years being sceptical.
Now I have been moved over to believing there is.

Often as to scientific reasoning,there are wide,differing and contradiction anyway from scientists.
It depends from what standpoint you are looking at things from.

I was sceptical but held an open mind,so many people I met in life stated things which,if a mind is kept open,can make far more sense than scrambling for a universal scientific explanation.

Then my own experiences too.
I am both pleased and surprised by how the poll is going,when I voted on this last night,I felt it would be a vastly overwhelming no.

Some strong points made here by many, on what has for me,become in life a far more interesting and thought provoking topic.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Ross.

Yes I do, so many small things that have happened to me personally make me believe that there’s a life after death and I’m being watched over by those I’ve lost

I have no concrete evidence to prove it of course (don’t start LT), but I see no harm in believing

There isn't any harm in believing . I read a quote that said

"I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live as if there isn't and to die to find out that there is."

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

There isn't any harm in believing . I read a quote that said

"I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live as if there isn't and to die to find out that there is."

I would just rather live my life

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I would just rather live my life

Aren't we all living our lives . But there's nothing wrong with Wondering about the afterlife .

[Vicky.]

There can never be evidence of life after death in reality as..noone can come back from the dead. I know some people who die for a few seconds report bright lights and such but that can be explained by science. Dead dead people cannot tell us whats there, if anything

So it really is a faith thing. I think that humans like to believe there is something else as the thought of nothing scares them. I am the opposite, the thought of nothing makes me look forward to it. Thats morbid as **** but yeah...sometimes I really do wish I believed in something, and envy those that do.

Apparently love can be explained by science though, I read about it somewhere..something to do with hormones or chemicals or something

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

There can never be evidence of life after death in reality as..noone can come back from the dead. I know some people who die for a few seconds report bright lights and such but that can be explained by science. Dead dead people cannot tell us whats there, if anything

So it really is a faith thing. I think that humans like to believe there is something else as the thought of nothing scares them. I am the opposite, the thought of nothing makes me look forward to it. Thats morbid as **** but yeah...sometimes I really do wish I believed in something, and envy those that do.

Apparently love can be explained by science though, I read about it somewhere..something to do with hormones or chemicals or something

Well, science have put forward theories on those things but there is no definitive proof. We don't even really know how the human brain works, so I'm not expecting science to come up with any kind of proof any time soon, even if there is some.

[Mystic Mock]

I think that it's a possibility, it would certainly make more sense as to how the universe was created with a system in mind than a random big bang just created everything.

However I do believe that organised Religions are all fake and are no different to the Arthurian Legend or the Greek Mythology.

[AnnieK]

I would like to believe it, I would love to catch up with loved ones who have gone before.....however I don't think I can believe it.

[joeysteele]

I agree wholeheartedly science only has theories.
Scientists disagree on life after death,as do medics too.

Of course no one knows for sure and I don't think life after death belief requires a religious faith either.

It's a fascinating topic that has no real certainty either side at all to it.
Science for sure cannot explain aspects to it, science often comes across more confused by it than those sceptical of it,or those keeping an open mind as to it too.

[Jamie89]

I don't believe in it but I think it's pretty amazing that we're able to contemplate it. And I don't think there's any grand meaning to life, we're just part of an ecosystem and 'meaning' is just existing, but I don't that's a depressing outlook, it's all an incredible accident of nature that we're even here and even more incredible that we can think about this stuff, so I don't really think there needs to be more than what we already have in terms of life for it to be thought of as worthwhile.

[jaxie]

I would say no quite firmly. However I will also admit that I have had a couple of experiences along those lines that I can't explain.

One example is I went to see a medium lady once with someone else. I was just going along as their sidekick and I'll admit to have a quiet laugh at the whole thing and the medium lady didn't know I was attending until we turned up together. This person kind of ignored my companion and said a bunch of stuff to me that I can't explain. I told her nothing about myself and she didn't know my last name.

Among other things, she said my dad was there and said his name correctly. She asked if he had something wrong with his legs. My dad was disabled and had both his legs amputated which she couldn't have known. Then she started talking about my sister who had passed and said she looked a lot like me. I looked at her like she was crazy and said I've never had a sister. Then she said 'was there a baby that died?' and I admit I felt a bit shocked. You see I was one of twins and my mum had a miscarriage when she was about 3 months pregnant and lost her baby, except she was still pregnant with me and they told her she lost one of twins which apparently can happen though is rare. No one knows about that but me and my parents and I don't think I've ever mentioned it to friends.

Oh and the icing on the cake? As we were leaving she said to my companion to check the oil in their car as there was something wrong. They checked the oil and everything seemed fine. Two days after that they broke down on the hard shoulder of the motorway with a serious oil leak and nearly had a nasty accident.

So I'm a firm non believer who can't explain any of that.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I would say no quite firmly. However I will also admit that I have had a couple of experiences along those lines that I can't explain.

One example is I went to see a medium lady once with someone else. I was just going along as their sidekick and I'll admit to have a quiet laugh at the whole thing and the medium lady didn't know I was attending until we turned up together. This person kind of ignored my companion and said a bunch of stuff to me that I can't explain. I told her nothing about myself and she didn't know my last name.

Among other things, she said my dad was there and said his name correctly. She asked if he had something wrong with his legs. My dad was disabled and had both his legs amputated which she couldn't have known. Then she started talking about my sister who had passed and said she looked a lot like me. I looked at her like she was crazy and said I've never had a sister. Then she said 'was there a baby that died?' and I admit I felt a bit shocked. You see I was one of twins and my mum had a miscarriage when she was about 3 months pregnant and lost her baby, except she was still pregnant with me and they told her she lost one of twins which apparently can happen though is rare. No one knows about that but me and my parents and I don't think I've ever mentioned it to friends.

Oh and the icing on the cake? As we were leaving she said to my companion to check the oil in their car as there was something wrong. They checked the oil and everything seemed fine. Two days after that they broke down on the hard shoulder of the motorway with a serious oil leak and nearly had a nasty accident.

So I'm a firm non believer who can't explain any of that.

I have strong doubts as to mediums although others have relayed some interesting points after seeing one.

Your account,considering you said virtually nothing yet got so much said that applied.
That was a really interesting read.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have strong doubts as to mediums although others have relayed some interesting points after seeing one.

Your account,considering you said virtually nothing yet got so much said that applied.
That was a really interesting read.

I'm a very big sceptic Joey so I was very careful not to give her anything. It was weird and she refunded the person I went with as she got nothing for them at all apart from the car bit at the end. She did say it happens like that sometimes as she has no control over it.

I was literally just there as a tag along and to keep the person company and to scoff a bit.

So yeah I can't explain any of that. My dad's name she could have guessed. The legs thing I don't know because it's not really the 'usual' thing people have wrong with them.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I'm a very big sceptic Joey so I was very careful not to give her anything. It was weird and she refunded the person I went with as she got nothing for them at all apart from the car bit at the end. She did say it happens like that sometimes as she has no control over it.

I was literally just there as a tag along and to keep the person company and to scoff a bit.

So yeah I can't explain any of that. My dad's name she could have guessed. The legs thing I don't know because it's not really the 'usual' thing people have wrong with them.

That's all really interesting jaxie.
It's odd to hear too of a medium refunding as well.

[Ramsay]

I would love to think there is, but when i really think about it...No there's no chance, it'll be the same as before i was born. nothing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think its time to watch this brief charming explanation

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

i see noone brave enough to go beyond I do

like what is it exactly you think happens and how does it work?

remember this has also to happen for every living thing that has ever existed in earth history from the first bacteria to today

that is a lot of flies


(i get its wishful thinking and of course part of our innate desire to live, for that is what has kept us alive, the selfish gene, but i doubt anyoneE has really thought about it beyond helping them deal with the futility of their lives and inevitable death?)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i see noone brave enough to go beyond I do

like what is it exactly you think happens and how does it work?

remember this has also to happen for every living thing that has ever existed in earth history from the first bacteria to today

that is a lot of flies


(i get its wishful thinking and of course part of our innate desire to live, for that is what has kept us alive, the selfish gene, but i doubt anyoneE has really thought about it beyond helping them deal with the futility of their lives and inevitable death?)

I'm pretty sure the majority of those who believe in life after death only believe it happens for humans