[Daniel.]

The if a woman acted like that excuse is poor because Helen Wood is despised on here

[Daniel.]

Chanelle stood up to the bullies, Lotan bullied so that's that

[Cal.]

Helen was a legend and an angel compared to Lotan!

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Helen was a legend and an angel

[Jordan.]

Why even compare his actions to that of other people, as if it somehow excuses what he did

[Amy Jade]

Scum. The woman should have bit it clean off and spat it back in his face.

[JerseyWins]

I thought Lotan was mostly boring and had some ego and anger problems that wasn't the most fun thing to watch but vile? Not really

He was at his worst when Issy brought up his son but that was something personal that she shouldn't have brought up in the first place. Most would get pretty mad at something like that about them/their child especially if someone they've had arguments with is saying that passive aggressively.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

I thought Lotan was mostly boring and had some ego and anger problems that wasn't the most fun thing to watch but vile? Not really

He was at his worst when Issy brought up his son but that was something personal that she shouldn't have brought up in the first place. Most would get pretty mad at something like that about them/their child especially if someone they've had arguments with is saying that passive aggressively.

He had been calling her stupid and ugly and basically playground bullying her all week purely out of bitterness she wasn't worshipping him. She was perfectly in the right to say he wasn't a good role model to his kid, he isn't.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

He had been calling her stupid and ugly and basically playground bullying her all week purely out of bitterness she wasn't worshipping him. She was perfectly in the right to say he wasn't a good role model to his kid, he isn't.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

He had been calling her stupid and ugly and basically playground bullying her all week purely out of bitterness she wasn't worshipping him. She was perfectly in the right to say he wasn't a good role model to his kid, he isn't.

WOW tea

Especially since that kid's gonna grow up and see his behaviour and.... I just wouldn't like to see my dad acting like that for the whole world (yes like 2 people in all of the UK watch BB BUT clips on YouTube mean people anywhere can see Lotan be an arse!) /my friends to see

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

He had been calling her stupid and ugly and basically playground bullying her all week purely out of bitterness she wasn't worshipping him. She was perfectly in the right to say he wasn't a good role model to his kid, he isn't.

Whether you or her believe that, it's not something to say to a parent, especially in the middle of a heated argument (that the same person -Isabelle-) started sorry.

She was picking for a fight over a game/task/whatever they were playing.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Whether you or her believe that, it's not something to say to a parent, especially in the middle of a heated argument (that the same person -Isabelle-) started sorry.

She was picking for a fight over a game/task/whatever they were playing.

Why isn't it? He needed to be brought down to Earth and be reminded that his awful behaviour is gonna be televised and put on the internet longer than he or his son will be alive and his son is gonna grow up with his father's awful behaviour on the internet, always being reminded and he's gonna be judged for his father's actions, no doubt.

Youtube video

If you ask me, he was clearly the one aggravating her.

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

Why isn't it? He needed to be brought down to Earth and be reminded that his awful behaviour is gonna be televised and put on the internet longer than he or his son will be alive and his son is gonna grow up with his father's awful behaviour on the internet, always being reminded and he's gonna be judged for his father's actions, no doubt.

Youtube video

If you ask me, he was clearly the one aggravating her.

He didn't do anything that bad until AFTER she said that though? Idk exactly who started the "beef" (might've been Lotan tbh) but Issy & Lotan were always taking shots at each other, they didn't like each other. He wasn't a bully about it.

Ugh Queen Savannah just sitting on the couch while everyone else is going nuts

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

I thought Lotan was mostly boring and had some ego and anger problems that wasn't the most fun thing to watch but vile? Not really

He was at his worst when Issy brought up his son but that was something personal that she shouldn't have brought up in the first place. Most would get pretty mad at something like that about them/their child especially if someone they've had arguments with is saying that passive aggressively.

i didn’t throw my phone or voddy and coke across the room when lewis suggested that my future child would be out of lotan’s league!

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

i didn’t throw my phone or voddy and coke across the room when lewis suggested that my future child would be out of lotan’s league!

nah but like my point is actually valid as ****

[Jamie89]

There's probably some truth in what he's saying. I'd imagine that generally speaking women feel less of a need to restrain themselves around male strippers, because it's not seen as something that would be as problematic as a man being pervy towards a female stripper. On the other hand I can't take him seriously with that hair so I don't know what to think!

[Daniel.]

Role model to your son tho

[JerseyWins]

(not excusing him throwing his drink or even getting that mad but I'm definitely excusing him for generally getting angry and giving him some leeway in that kind of situation)

[JerseyWins]

Also that's the shortened edited version.. Lotan was very calm & gentle in this altercation for a while, he was just doing what he had to for the task:

Youtube video

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Also that's the shortened edited version.. Lotan was very calm & gentle in this altercation for a while, he was just doing what he had to for the task:

Youtube video

That video's blocked over here in the UK

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Also that's the shortened edited version.. Lotan was very calm & gentle in this altercation for a while, he was just doing what he had to for the task:

Youtube video

He had been calling her ugly to Tom and Keiran (mostly) all week and repeatedly tried to segregate her and belittle her. It was uncomfortable to watch and Raph and Chanelle clearly agreed as they both voiced concern about how badly he was treating her.

In all honesty I worry a bit if you think a man who is almost 30 acting like malicious school bully towards a woman who is 21 simply because she wasn't fan girling over him, is somehow ok. She was 100% right to call out his behaviour, the way he was acting is definitely NOT something his child should aspire to be like. Hopefully the mother keeps contact to a minimum so the kid doesn't grow up to be an aggressive scum bag like their bully of a father.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

He had been calling her ugly to Tom and Keiran (mostly) all week and repeatedly tried to segregate her and belittle her. It was uncomfortable to watch and Raph and Chanelle clearly agreed as they both voiced concern about how badly he was treating her.

In all honesty I worry a bit if you think a man who is almost 30 acting like malicious school bully towards a woman who is 21 simply because she wasn't fan girling over him, is somehow ok. She was 100% right to call out his behaviour, the way he was acting is definitely NOT something his child should aspire to be like. Hopefully the mother keeps contact to a minimum so the kid doesn't grow up to be an aggressive scum bag like their bully of a father.

Pretty sure you were condoning Kayleigh's behaviour to Arthur which was just as bad though......

And I'm not sticking up for anyone, I really liked Isabelle and I'm glad she won.

[Daniel.]

Lotan had literally been bullying her, not accepting her, saying she was ugly and a tramp, getting the boys to isolate her, she didn't take his **** and that's that. I don't think I have ever seen someone end someone else on TV as good as Isabelle did Lotan. One of my favourite reality moments ever

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

Lotan had literally been bullying her, not accepting her, saying she was ugly and a tramp, getting the boys to isolate her, she didn't take his **** and that's that. I don't think I have ever seen someone end someone else on TV as good as Isabelle did Lotan. One of my favourite reality moments ever

This tbh

I'll never be able to understand how Lotan's behaviour can be viewed as anything less (and I'm trying not to be biased).

I don't recall Issy sniping back at him? Except when she called him out on his comments about Chanelle in the kitchen (ugh Isabelle just carelessly calling out his **** in the kitchen depsite being alone and in the presence of his group then Lotan going on about how intellectually superior and wondering what's wrong with women who challenge him ) and when Issy said "all ya talk about is ya ex" (Is She Wrong?)

[JerseyWins]

I don't think Issy did anything bad. In a way she did put him in his place despite it being in a way that was on the disrespectful side. Lotan was disrespectful himself so yeah you can say it came back to bite him. He just gets over-hated. But then again, I think most people do on these shows so eh.