[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Could you potentially fall for both genders, if you struck up the right emotional connection etc?

I actually don't even know, like it's only ever happened to me with one person(a guy), before that I was just not interested in any human at all.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If you aren't exclusively attracted to one gender then you're bisexual in my eyes (or asexual if you have no sexual impulses at all obvi).

I am only attracted to men I see in the street and could only see myself in a relationship with men. But I'd love to have sex with a girl before I die.

Does that make me bisexual?

I think saying one smidgen of attraction to the same sex, or even curiousity, constitutes a bisexual is a bit crude, no?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by TomC

I am only attracted to men I see in the street and could only see myself in a relationship with men. But I'd love to have sex with a girl before I die.

Does that make me bisexual?

I think saying one smidgen of attraction to the same sex, or even curiousity, constitutes a bisexual is a bit crude, no?

I agree with you on that - it just makes you a gay who wants to experiment. Wanting to experiment outside of your sexuality doesn't really make someone bi, imo.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Post in this thread are really offensive

Why should we have to declare what gender we want? Why can't we let our head and heart decide on the person and not the gender they identify as?

It shouldn't be anyone else's business to define you

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Withano

Well, I think that what it means? Dont shoot the messenger lol.

Some people are sexually attracted to men because they are men, some people are sexually attracted to women because they are women, bi people are sexually attracted to both, asexual people are sexually attracted to neither, pansexual people are sexually attracted to personality.

I guess people can be sexually attracted to literally anything... even objects or animals... if some people say they are sexually attracted to personalities, instead of persons, then theres a label for that.

Thats my understanding of it anyway. Pans would still want to **** them silly once they find the sexiest persona. They’re no less of a sex-mad-maniac than the average bi, I’d imagine.

I'm not having a go, I'm just responding.

Are there pansexual equivalents to straight or gay people who don'tare attracted to personalities? If not, why? Why are bisexuals the only orientation that's demeaned in such a way?

No matter how you cut it, there's really no meaningful differences between bisexuality or pansexuality aside from the latter's existence makes the former seem less valid or hateful.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by TomC

I am only attracted to men I see in the street and could only see myself in a relationship with men. But I'd love to have sex with a girl before I die.

Does that make me bisexual?

I think saying one smidgen of attraction to the same sex, or even curiousity, constitutes a bisexual is a bit crude, no?

But are you attracted to girls in any shape or form or are just intrigued about what hetero sex would be like?

Sexual orientation is decided by attraction, a person could **** both genders but could still be considered straight or gay if they are only attracted to one gender.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm not having a go, I'm just responding.

Are there pansexual equivalents to straight or gay people who don'tare attracted to personalities? If not, why? Why are bisexuals the only orientation that's demeaned in such a way?

No matter how you cut it, there's really no meaningful differences between bisexuality or pansexuality aside from the latter's existence makes the former seem less valid or hateful.

Well no to your second paragraph, because pansexuals do not care about the sex or gender of their partner... so, that on its own makes it very different than gay or straight people... or bi people.. who all do care about sex or gender of their partner...

I think you’re focussing on the similarities instead of the differences... the similarities being that yes, both bisexuals and pansexuals historically date both sexes... that doesnt make them the same though.

I guess it just comes down to whether you believe a person can be sexually attracted to a personality. Everything else is irrelevant, their only turn on is a personality. And I would say yes, that is possible. I don’t see that at all similar to a bisexual person. Bisexual (and heterosexual and homosexual) people are attracted to people for their genders, pansexual people are not, there are differences as well as similarities.

Jessica, for instance said she was demisexual, and that she was sexually attracted to a man once, that doesnt detract from a womans heterosexuality. They’re two separate things, with both similarities and differences.

[MTVN]

It is a thing because some people consider it to be the most appropriate way to categorise their sexuality. I don't see how anyone else can deny them the ability to make that decision

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Post in this thread are really offensive

Why should we have to declare what gender we want? Why can't we let our head and heart decide on the person and not the gender they identify as?

Which posts are offensive?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It is a thing because some people consider it to be the most appropriate way to categorise their sexuality. I don't see how anyone else can deny them the ability to make that decision

Only being trans isn't a sexuality. People can be open-minded as open-minded comes without digging all the artificial labels that didn't exist 10 or 20 years ago.

As others have said pansexualism just seems to be bisexuality without the implied transphobia of the latter. Only like I said being a transsexual isn't a bonafide sexual orientation. You can think that and still be PC.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Redway

Only being trans isn't a sexuality. People can be open-minded as open-minded comes without digging all the artificial labels that didn't exist 10 or 20 years ago.

Who said trans was a sexuality?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Withano

Who said trans was a sexuality?

It's more about what's implied than what's said in black-and-white. Don't get all literal on me.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Redway

It's more about what's implied than what's said in black-and-white. Don't get all literal on me.

I’m sorry, but I’m really struggling to understand your last point if it wasn’t meant to be taken literally.
Also the label has been about for over 100 years... or are we not supposed to take anythin you say seriously?

[Redway]

Oh and a demisexual is a person who can't experience sexual attraction without an emotional connection. True phenomenon obviously. Especially for females.

Distinct sexuality? Mhm. Is it really?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Withano

I’m sorry, but I’m really struggling to understand your last point if it wasn’t meant to be taken literally.

Then I'm done flogging this thing out with you. I don't think pansexuality's a thing and that's that. Peg me down word for word though.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Redway

Then I'm done flogging this thing out with you. I don't think pansexuality's a thing and that's that. Peg me down word for word though.

Well thats fine.. its just that others explain why, whilst you’re explanations aren’t to be taken literally, so I’m not sure what conversation you were planning on having.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Withano

Well thats fine.. its just that others explain why, whilst you’re explanations aren’t to be taken literally, so I’m not sure what conversation you were planning on having.

There's nothing I've said on this thread that other people haven't been hinting at.

Dude here reckons pansexuality's just an ultra-PC version of bisexuality. Come and shoot me.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Redway

There's nothing I've said on this thread that other people haven't been hinting at.

Dude here reckons pansexuality's just an ultra-PC version of bisexuality. Come and shoot me.

...because politically correct people have been known to lie about their sexual interests? Or?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Withano

Well no to your second paragraph, because pansexuals do not care about the sex or gender of their partner...

there's still no meaningful distinction to warrant giving it a whole new label. Bisexuals are attracted to both genders, therefore are happy to date someone with either gender/set of genitals. And maybe some of these bisexuals put personality first. Good for them! Doesn't give them a new sexuality, though.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

there's still no meaningful distinction to warrant giving it a whole new label. Bisexuals are attracted to both genders, therefore are happy to date someone with either gender/set of genitals. And maybe some of these bisexuals put personality first. Good for them! Doesn't give them a new sexuality, though.

But arousal at both genitals is different to arousal at a certain personality. I think you too have focussed on the similarities, and missed the differences.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Withano

...because politically correct people have been known to lie about their sexual interests? Or?

Because transexualism isn't a discrete sexual orientation but gender orientation. Call me old-skool but I do think sexuality tends to one of two directions (hetero or homo-sexual). Everything else either in my eyes has nothing to do with actual sexual orientation (demisexuality) or else just doesn't count as a bona-fide label. As PC and accepting as we get over the decades there's fundamentals of sexuality. Reproduction's one of them.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

But are you attracted to girls in any shape or form or are just intrigued about what hetero sex would be like?

Sexual orientation is decided by attraction, a person could **** both genders but could still be considered straight or gay if they are only attracted to one gender.

The idea of having sex with a girl turns me on (believe it or not). But I'd never look at a girl that way normally

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Redway

Because transexualism isn't a discrete sexual orientation but gender orientation. Call me old-skool but I do think sexuality tends to one of two directions (hetero or homo-sexual). Everything else either in my eyes has nothing to do with actual sexual orientation (demisexuality) or else just doesn't count as a bona-fide label. As PC and accepting as we get over the decades there's fundamentals of sexuality. Reproduction's one of them.

Again, nobody has called transexualism as sexuality. Your understanding of demisexuality is nonsenical too. I’m not convinced you’re even trying.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Withano

Again, nobody has called transexualism as sexuality. Your understanding of demisexuality is nonsenical too. I’m not convinced you’re even trying.

You would say that though wouldn't you. You're not even trying to understand or accept different opinions.

I don't know if it's that you're deliberately tryna be all black-and-white about this because you can't bear someone mention this pansexuality of a thing as anything other than a bonafide sexuality or you genuinely can't read between the lines.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Withano

But arousal at both genitals is different to arousal at a certain personality. I think you too have focussed on the similarities, and missed the differences.

Plenty of people are "aroused" by a personality. Ever heard the phrase "laughing her into bed" ?

The differences are too insignificant to count toward anything, someone of any sexuality can only feel attraction towards certain personalities.

Shall we invent a new sexuality label for straight people who are only attracted to people whose personality they gel with? Or a new sexuality label for women who only date funny guys? No, because there's no need. Just like there's no need for the label "Pansexual" !