[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

It was in public interest

Well it's not really...and the round of applause he got from his fellow MPs when he refused to be drawn into answering questions on it shows that they agree..

You have already taken Theresa mays view as gospel when she condemned the attack on the greenpeace protestor so I am assuming you will do the same here and agree that it in fact is not in the public interest.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Well it's not really...and the round of applause he got from his fellow MPs when he refused to be drawn into answering questions on it shows that they agree..

You have already taken Theresa mays view as gospel when she condemned the attack on the greenpeace protestor so I am assuming you will do the same here and agree that it in fact is not in the public interest.

It was Tory activists not MPs
I also said the thirst for Brexit is so irrational among some that they would let satan himself deliver it, let alone Johnson

Btw, he agreed, at the same meeting, that the public has a right to judge his character.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

It was in public interest

The police were called, they attended, they interviewed the parties involved and concluded that everyone involved was fine and that there were no further questions to answer.

So, what is it you know that the police don't?

And I'd rather like to see the busybodies named and shamed. Record people arguing next door for the police if you think there's danger... but they sold it to the Guardian.

[bots]

i think it is very much in the public interest to know what type of character Boris is, he could be the next prime minister. Look at the attention that Brown got when he was talking about that lady .... thats public interest. John Major recorded calling his cabinet bastards ... again in the public interest

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

The police were called, they attended, they interviewed the parties involved and concluded that everyone involved was fine and that there were no further questions to answer.

So, what is it you know that the police don't?

And I'd rather like to see the busybodies named and shamed. Record people arguing next door for the police if you think there's danger... but they sold it to the Guardian.

If the reactions it got is anything to go by they did the right thing by contacting a newspaper.
Malcolm Rifkind who I've always respected summed it up well:

He told BBC Radio 5 Live: “If you are a candidate to be prime minister and the police have been called to your house – fairly or unfairly – the fact is there was a police visit. You don’t just say ‘no comment’. That implies you may have something you don’t want to disclose.

“It was a lack of judgment to refuse to even make a short comment. All he could have said, quite reasonably, would have been that in all relationships there are occasionally outbursts of anger and disagreement.”

[Twosugars]

Theres this unbelievable phenomenon best illustrated by Christian evangelicals voting an masse for con and adulterer trump in America where people put aside all values they cherish in hope of achieving their political ends.
Over here it seems to be going the same way. People abandoning any moral standards by which they normally judge others bc they want Brexit so much they'd let satan himself deliver it.
And they tie themselves in knots to justify it.
And so Johnson (judged as best able to deliver it) can do no wrong. It'll be always someone else's fault.

[Livia]

Same as the milkshake throwers then, being justified in what they're doing.

And the Left's connections with terrorist groups... justified.

One side is no worse than the other here, despite all the bleating.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

One side is no worse than the other here, despite all the bleating.

Are you then finally agreeing that Johnson's actions are inexcusable?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Are you then finally agreeing that Johnson's actions are inexcusable?

I don't know. All I've seen is something recorded through a wall by a neighbour and a few out of context phrases. I know as much as you about this... virtually nothing.

[Twosugars]

I never defended Corbyn's links. Tho I did laugh at milkshakes. Hardly the same

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I never defended Corbyn's links. Tho I did laugh at milkshakes. Hardly the same

No, not the same at all.... one was an actual assault. The other is someone saying "get off me" through a wall. He could have been trying to hug her, but you seem to have anticipated the last page when most people are still on chapter 1. So as you say to so many people... you go on.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

No, not the same at all.... one was an actual assault. The other is someone saying "get off me" through a wall. He could have been trying to hug her, but you seem to have anticipated the last page when most people are still on chapter 1. So as you say to so many people... you go on.

And get out of my flat was an invite to an outdoor bonk?

Ok

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

And get out of my flat was an invite to an outdoor bonk?

Ok

I'm still in the honeymoon period with my husband, But my first husband and I had some very lively rows and I'm sure I'm not alone. I'm also sure that my husband and I have lots of fights to look forward to. We all fight. We all say stupid stuff we don't mean, "I could kill you!" for instance. The difference is we don't have neighbours recording it through a wall.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

We all say stupid stuff we don't mean, "I could kill you!" for instance.

Sorry Livia but while I agree that everyone argues (me and my wife have had some epics), and everyone says things they regret in arguments, I can quite confidently say that I never have and never would threaten to physically hurt or kill a partner and I'm very dubious that we should be accepting or normalizing that. Also violence (which includes throwing or smashing objects / punching walls etc.) should never be seen as a normal part of "just couples arguing".

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm still in the honeymoon period with my husband, But my first husband and I had some very lively rows and I'm sure I'm not alone. I'm also sure that my husband and I have lots of fights to look forward to. We all fight. We all say stupid stuff we don't mean, "I could kill you!" for instance. The difference is we don't have neighbours recording it through a wall.

I can well believe you're feisty
And I agree with you re couples rowing.
She's still with him so they must have patched it up whatever it was.
But...
This guy deserves extra scrutiny. He is someone who's made a career of lying and manipulating. He was sacked twice for lying. He tried to hire someone to beat up his colleague.
And now he's about to become a PM. Enough is enough. As his girlfriend said he's spoilt and knows value of nothing. Time to take responsibility for his words and actions.

[Withano]

Boris Johnson refuses to accept his girlfriend telling him “leave means leave” lel

Boris Johnson refuses to accept his girlfriend telling him “leave means leave”

Boris Johnson kicked out by girlfriend
Boris Johnson has today spoken out to insist that “leave means leave” is no way an explicit instruction to anyone.

After hearing the word leave screamed at him several times while at home with his girlfriend, Johnson insisted that the term is open to interpretation and anyone screaming “leave!” could also have meant they secretly want him to remain.

“Circumstances change, and though the word ‘leave’ might have been used, I have no doubt that in the cold light of day she will have changed her mind,” explained Boris’s spokesperson, Simon Williams.

“Sometimes people say ‘Leave’ in the heat of the moment, or because they’ve got the wrong end of the stick about a particular issue – it would be foolhardy to make life-affecting decisions in such circumstances.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Withano

Boris Johnson refuses to accept his girlfriend telling him “leave means leave” lel

‘No is open to interpretation, sometimes no means yes and they just don’t know it’

[Cherie]

Is the recording of this available, has the Guardian released it, I would be interested to hear it

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Is the recording of this available, has the Guardian released it, I would be interested to hear it

No as it may be illegal to play.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

No as it may be illegal to play.

Why?

The guy recorded noises from within his own flat

[joeysteele]

This was late at night.
Loud enough to be heard next door.

It maybe can be questioned re the recording but had anything happened bad.
At least recorded was some build up to it.

If someone played noisy music, they'd get into bother.
I see no reason why loudly arguing couples shouldn't either.

To be told to tone it down at least.
If any children could hear people arguing, that's unacceptable.

All very well to argue but to have it spill over that others hear it or get woken by it.
That's unacceptable.

Highly ignorant of couples thinking that others need to have to hear their arguing too.
Especially around midnight to the early hours too.

[Liam-]

Looks like where heading to another age of powerful men telling women what they actually mean and think, because women clearly don’t know what they’re saying

[Tom4784]

If this was Jeremy Corbyn or Diane Abbot, a lot of the people in this thread dismissing the story would be calling for their heads.

That being said, It's a difficult story to judge since we don't know the context without the recording. There's definitely troublesome aspects to the story though but I'm going to wait until the recording is available to form a real opinion on it. If it's as it's said in the article though, it paints a grim picture of him.

[Denver]

I dont think its fair to judge someones personal arguments when everyone has arguments in a relationship

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I dont think its fair to judge someones personal arguments when everyone has arguments in a relationship

No it's not right to judge others arguments, even moderately with raised voices.

However after midnight and being disturbed by others making any argument no longer then private but more public.
Then judgement and even concerns may happen.

However, no way should they have after calling the police contacted any press outlet.
That's very questionable and indefensible in my view.