[JoshBB]

The lack of compassion for these poor kids from some is really disturbing tbh (mostly the 'Trump can do no wrong' MAGA brigade), I can't wait for him to be booted out of office in 2020 and someone sane can come in and sort this out.

Easy to see how fascism rose in the 1930-40s looking at today

[lime]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The lack of compassion for these poor kids from some is really disturbing tbh (mostly the 'Trump can do no wrong' MAGA brigade), I can't wait for him to be booted out of office in 2020 and someone sane can come in and sort this out.

Easy to see how fascism rose in the 1930-40s looking at today

But he won't be booted out of office...This is a small forum but check how many support him.We in Ireland are listening to the hustings...and it it nothing short of bizzare that these guys are never challlenged on facts....Why does the British media ...and I don't want to say they should be challenged on feelings...WHY for the love of all things sacred are they not challenged on facts???.

We have all given up in the EU now...We respect you want no deal..The DUP and ERG want no deal ...so why is this buffon talking about a deal ...So frustrating ..Don't we all just want to move on

[Beso]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The lack of compassion for these poor kids from some is really disturbing tbh (mostly the 'Trump can do no wrong' MAGA brigade), I can't wait for him to be booted out of office in 2020 and someone sane can come in and sort this out.

Easy to see how fascism rose in the 1930-40s looking at today

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ste-obama.html


Many great presidents have tried and failed in the past..with the numbers arriving dramatically increasing I can't see anyone being able to "sort it"

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ste-obama.html


Many great presidents have tried and failed in the past..with the numbers arriving dramatically increasing I can't see anyone being able to "sort it"

Part of the reason that the numbers have surged is because of Trump's bleating about his wall / cracking down on immigration, and an impression south of the border that this is the "last chance" to relocate to the US. A cyclical self-fulfilling prophecy. He says immigration is out of control and needs to be halted immediately, triggering a surge of immigration, which he points at and says "See, here they come!".

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Part of the reason that the numbers have surged is because of Trump's bleating about his wall / cracking down on immigration, and an impression south of the border that this is the "last chance" to relocate to the US. A cyclical self-fulfilling prophecy. He says immigration is out of control and needs to be halted immediately, triggering a surge of immigration, which he points at and says "See, here they come!".

It will all sort itself out in the end when the wall is built, which can only be a good thing if the state of the camps are anything to go by.

[Twosugars]

I'd argue that nazi camps should be called death camps rather than concentration camps. That was their raison d'etre, extermination not detention. Very often new shipments of people were herded to gas chambers without setting foot in barracks.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I'd argue that nazi camps should be called death camps rather than concentration camps. That was their raison d'etre, extermination not detention. Very often new shipments of people were herded to gas chambers without setting foot in barracks.

I would agree.Concertaton camps existing long before WW2.We Boers were held in them during the Boer War..we staved and were beaten during this time...the Boer women were raped and murdered if they didn't disclose where their brothers or husbands were.....There is a difference between Death camps and consertration camps

[GiRTh]

Canadian cartoonist loses job after illustration of Trump went viral

[GiRTh]

[Beso]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

how disgusting is that...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by parmnion

how disgusting is that...

Not a fan of Trump. not in any way, shape or form... but that is a disgusting cartoon.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not a fan of Trump. not in any way, shape or form... but that is a disgusting cartoon.

agreed, i'm myself usually liking cartoons in our tabloids but they should be kept funny, and this one is quite disgusting

we also have a comic in our magazines here called ''jan jans & kinderen (children)'' also more in a funny way about all sorts of things being shown in news daily


but this De Adder (what is a bit dutch last name btw) he's quite edgy and here he crossed that line of funny into unfunny and disgusting

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by parmnion

how disgusting is that...

And some people lap this **** up .

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

how disgusting is that...

More disgusted by a cartoon satirizing the apathy towards these people's plights than their plights themselves? Not surprised.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

More disgusted by a cartoon satirizing the apathy towards these people's plights than their plights themselves? Not surprised.

Another lie and personal attack.....

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Another lie and personal attack.....

How is it a lie? You've shown more disgust towards that cartoon (while completely missing it's point) which just so happens to be critical of Trump then you have towards the human rights' crisis that inspired it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

That Cartoonist got Fired.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by arista

That Cartoonist got Fired.

I can't say I'm surprised, using a tragic image like that...discusting.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The most accurate portrait of Trump since his election.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Accurate imo

[Liam-]

The cartoon is disgusting, but that’s the point, it’s showing Trump’s and the average right-winger’s contempt and lack of empathy for these people, so in that case, it’s a brilliant piece of art.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The cartoon is disgusting, but that’s the point, it’s showing Trump’s and the average right-winger’s contempt and lack of empathy for these people, so in that case, it’s a brilliant piece of art.

The average right winger? The average? I'm on the right, I don't support what's happening in those camps and no one I know supports them either. I'm married to an American who has no interest in living there while Trump is in the Whitehouse. And frankly Liam, lumping everyone on the right into a gaggle of Nazis is insulting.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Livia

The average right winger? The average? I'm on the right, I don't support what's happening in those camps and no one I know supports them either. I'm married to an American who has no interest in living there while Trump is in the Whitehouse. And frankly Liam, lumping everyone on the right into a gaggle of Nazis is insulting.

I was on about American right wingers, but sure let’s make it about you, it’s good you don’t feel that way, but if you ask a collection of republicans and other right wingers, the average response would most certainly be severely flippant and lacking any form of sympathy.

I didn’t mention nazis, me thinks you’re trying to inflate my comment into something it blatantly wasn’t and I find that insulting.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I was on about American right wingers, but sure let’s make it about you, it’s good you don’t feel that way, but if you ask a collection of republicans and other right wingers, the average response would most certainly be severely flippant and lacking any form of sympathy.

I didn’t mention nazis, me thinks you’re trying to inflate my comment into something it blatantly wasn’t and I find that insulting.

You lost me after the first sentence. I enjoy debating with you Liam, and with lots of people with whom I disagree, but I don't feel I can when you're making statements like the emboldened statement and thinking you're debating.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Livia

You lost me after the first sentence. I enjoy debating with you Liam, and with lots of people with whom I disagree, but I don't feel I can when you're making statements like the emboldened statement and thinking you're debating.

Well if you read my statement and it didn’t fit to you, then you should be aware that you’re not the average right winger that I was referring to so it shouldn’t have been a problem, I don’t think you’re one those monsters out there that sees these people as nothing but ‘illegal aliens’ (a term which makes my skin crawl just having to write it ugh) - I’ve always said it, if I mean something personally to someone, I won’t hide behind veiled generalisations, i’ll say it out right

I’ll stand by my point though, the average right wing Trumpist will have zero sympathy, empathy or care for these people and that’s what the picture was depicting, perfectly imo.