[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

according to Democratic....

isnt it lovely how cheap death can be when you are climbing the greasy pole...

Can you take the moral high ground like that given your arguments in this thread that downplayed the violence of these shootings and made out that drug deaths are somehow worse like tragedy is a competition?

Self awareness is important, LT.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Can you take the moral high ground like that given your arguments in this thread that downplayed the violence of these shootings and made out that drug deaths are somehow worse like tragedy is a competition?

Self awareness is important, LT.

that does not make sense, sorry

[bots]

We can wring our hands for ever, but America chose this path right from it's inception. They keep saying how clever they were to organise their democracy as it is, well, now they have to live with it.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that does not make sense, sorry

Saying something doesn't make sense when it does to avoid answering it doesn't work, LT.

You downplayed these deaths because they were most likely a result of right wing extremism and tried to divert attention to drug deaths and then you have the gall to say someone else is using this to their advantage when you tried to brush this story under the rug earlier in the topic.

You can't pull the moral high ground card with me, LT. I will take out the receipts every time.

[Alf]

Any news on a manifesto?

I've heard rumours there is one, but they just might be rumours and nothing more.

[Twosugars]

There is, four pages of it, confirmed during press conference
Possible nexus of a hate crime, is all they're saying for now

[Tom4784]

This terrorist's motivations will be the same as the other two terrorists that comitted mass shootings this week, right wing extremism.

When was the last time a mass shooting in America wasn't committed by a young, white male that just so happened to be a right wing extremist? The Pulse shooting in 2016 perhaps?

[arista]

Beto O'Rouke Live on CNN HD now
is blaming Trump.
He just called Trump a White Nationalist.


He is Electioneering,



Soft Targets are easy to kill with a Deadly Machine Gun

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

Beto O'Rouke Live on CNN HD now
is blaming Trump.
He just called Trump a White Nationalist.


He is Electioneering,



Soft Targets are easy to kill with a Deadly Machine Gun

He is saying the truth.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He is saying the truth.

no its just he backs up your world-view

that is not the same

[Twosugars]

Trump spreads hate against immigrants, the killer travels to el paso to kill immigrants

Blood on the tiny orange hands of the racist and white supremacist in the white house

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He is saying the truth.

Bernie Saunders is now Live on CNN HD.

At least he said
Trump does not want this.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

Bernie Saunders is now Live on CNN HD.

At least he said
Trump does not want this.

Bet he doesn't bc it makes him look like a murderer

[Tom4784]

Trump doubles down on extreme right wing rhetoric and there just so happens to be an extreme spike in mass shootings of an extreme right wing persuasion?

It's no coincidence. Trump enables these ***** and you can bet he won't condemn these shooters in the same way he'd condemn an islamic terrorist, he won't even refer to these terrorists as such because they are white and he only wants people to fear people with brown skin.

[JerseyWins]

9 killed, 16 injured in another mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio today (well around 1:00 AM last night I think)

I-

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

9 killed, 16 injured in another mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio today (well around 1:00 AM last night I think)

I-

There's a thread already Jersey

What do you make of this?

[bots]

People won't like it, but there is a big difference between saying there is an immigration problem at the border and then someone going out and shooting people. Trump doesn't help the situation, but he didn't make someone drive 600 miles to shoot people.

People do need to understand that it's possible to hold an acceptable political view against immigration without it being seen as support and encouragement for shooting people

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

People won't like it, but there is a big difference between saying there is an immigration problem at the border and then someone going out and shooting people. Trump doesn't help the situation, but he didn't make someone drive 600 miles to shoot people.

People do need to understand that it's possible to hold an acceptable political view against immigration without it being seen as support and encouragement for shooting people

The rate of hate crimes and incidents of this nature has spiked since 2016. The rhetoric that Trump often spouts is dangerous because people will listen and use his words for justification. Leaders need to speak carefully and Trump just says whatever comes to mind.

The spike in right wing terrorism incidents has everything to do with the political climate and the toxicity coming from the top.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The rate of hate crimes and incidents of this nature has spiked since 2016. The rhetoric that Trump often spouts is dangerous because people will listen and use his words for justification. Leaders need to speak carefully and Trump just says whatever comes to mind.

The spike in right wing terrorism incidents has everything to do with the political climate and the toxicity coming from the top.

Exactly that.
You can make a case for controlled immigration in calm and measured words.
The orange one is not interested in that though.

[arista]

[Twosugars]

On ITV news tonight they showed a clip from trumps texas rally in 2016.
He was ranting about illegal immigrants and asked: "what are we going to do with these people?" Someone from the audience shouted " shoot them" , trump paused and smiled " only in the panhandle you can get away with this sir"

American president, ladies and gents....

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

On ITV news tonight they showed a clip from trumps texas rally in 2016.
He was ranting about illegal immigrants and asked: "what are we going to do with these people?" Someone from the audience shouted " shoot them" , trump paused and smiled " only in the panhandle you can get away with this sir"

American president, ladies and gents....

This Evil Killer
was against Mexicans long before
Trump became President.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by arista

This Evil Killer
was against Mexicans long before
Trump became President.

So was Trump

[Kizzy]

For those who deny these shootings have far right links.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-paso-shooting

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

On ITV news tonight they showed a clip from trumps texas rally in 2016.
He was ranting about illegal immigrants and asked: "what are we going to do with these people?" Someone from the audience shouted " shoot them" , trump paused and smiled " only in the panhandle you can get away with this sir"

American president, ladies and gents....

...I watched it...this is where he holds weight and responsibility as the President of the USA....Trump can’t be blamed for the hate in the hearts of people, that hate has been festering for a long time but no one should be able to look at the President of the USA and say ...your words feed into all of those prejudices...in that same rally he used phrases like ‘they marched’...a phrase that is designed to infer an ‘attack’....we need to protect our country from the attack from Mexico with this wall...?...it’s inciteful, it’s inciteful of prejudice and hate ...and he knows exactly what he’s doing...