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Old 17-08-2019, 06:54 PM #1
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Yeah right, rioting
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You have no idea how civil wars start
How many civil wars you experienced?
I was brought up in a country that experienced a lot: Solidarity movement, general strikes, bloody riots and a martial law so dont lecture me on that

I simply think you're being ott with you war and riots predictions

Corbyn premiership will not cause either.

But once brexiters start dismantling NHS that's a different matter, that may cause unrest

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How many civil wars you experienced?
I was brought up in a country that experienced a lot: Solidarity movement, general strikes, bloody riots and a martial law so dont lecture me on that

I simply think you're being ott with you war and riots predictions

Corbyn premiership will not cause either.

But once brexiters start dismantling NHS that's a different matter, that may cause unrest
Corbyn is hated throughout the country but you think him being PM won't cause riots
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Corbyn is hated throughout the country but you think him being PM won't cause riots
So hated that labour under him improved their election result in 2017 compared to 2015
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Corbyn is hated throughout the country but you think him being PM won't cause riots
He actually isn't hated throughout the Country.
Only by those more to the right of politics.

No PM elected to lead a government should lead to riots.

There'd be relief if he was PM with Labour policies to help restore dignity and respect to the sick and disabled and most vulnerable in society, after a near decade now of discrimination and humiliation of them, even the terminally ill by the last 2 Prime Ministers and now this 3rd in a row one too.

If there was ever any justification for riots that is more a reason for them, than just hating or disliking an elected leader politically.

We are supposed to be a decent Nation and a democracy.
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No he isn't. ...you need to put down the tabloids
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Lol the delusion here, the only way Labour can be popular again in britain is if they get rid of Corbyn and get a more stable leader and far less controversial
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Leader of opposition doing what leaders of opposition do. Shock horror!

Does seem like a power grab mind..gotta agree with that. He could surely, also throw his support behind someone else, if no deal is the most important thing in this, rather than him being in control..
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Was listening to LBC this morning and Corbyn doesn't seem that popular to me, ministers have blocked the deal May had at every opportunity, so Corbyn wont do any better, he will just delay it and it will be the same old ,same old drivel all the time,most people are sick of talking about it,sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind so if we have to come out with no deal,so be it,I am sure we will all cope,we have coped with much worse, people voted out so out we should come whether we like it or not,we cant all have what we want,people just want it so easy all the time .The project fear is being rolled out constantly,its a load of tosh,We will be fine,might have a few teething problems but we will get through it.
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Was listening to LBC this morning and Corbyn doesn't seem that popular to me, ministers have blocked the deal May had at every opportunity, so Corbyn wont do any better, he will just delay it and it will be the same old ,same old drivel all the time,most people are sick of talking about it,sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind so if we have to come out with no deal,so be it,I am sure we will all cope,we have coped with much worse, people voted out so out we should come whether we like it or not,we cant all have what we want,people just want it so easy all the time .The project fear is being rolled out constantly,its a load of tosh,We will be fine,might have a few teething problems but we will get through it.
The government's own memo has been leaked and it talks of food, medicine and fuel shortages. This isn't project fear, these are the folks that want to leave with a no deal on the 31st.

Is this seriously what you would be happy with? We don't have to live like it's WWII rations; it's 2019 and we live in one of the wealthiest countries on earth. I get that people want/wanted to leave the EU, but at the cost of hurting yourself, your children, and the people you love?

Everything the so-called project fear told you, is being proved more and more to be true. I'm trying to understand what you think we're getting in return for living like it's Victorian England all over again. There's nothing wrong with owning up to the fact that you were conned, and were sold a bill of goods that simply don't exist. It doesn't reflect poorly on you, it's a curse on all the liars and con men that tried to railroad a majority of the population into crippling the country so they could take advantage of the ruins.
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Was listening to LBC this morning and Corbyn doesn't seem that popular to me, ministers have blocked the deal May had at every opportunity, so Corbyn wont do any better, he will just delay it and it will be the same old ,same old drivel all the time,most people are sick of talking about it,sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind so if we have to come out with no deal,so be it,I am sure we will all cope,we have coped with much worse, people voted out so out we should come whether we like it or not,we cant all have what we want,people just want it so easy all the time .The project fear is being rolled out constantly,its a load of tosh,We will be fine,might have a few teething problems but we will get through it.
Most people dont want the country turning its back on its neighbours and becoming dependent on america and other distant countries.
And your 1.9 percent majority doesn't give you a mandate to leave in the worst way possible.
So get your head around that instead of spouting farage propaganda
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So get your head around that instead of spouting farage propaganda
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When talking about 'remoaners' not respecting the vote and stuff. When he thought leave would lose, he was already planning to push for another vote. Yet oddly when he got his way ,it was absolutely disgusting for anyone to say the majority was really slim and it might be a good idea to wait until..well its more concrete, the voting numbers.

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Most people dont want the country turning its back on its neighbours and becoming dependent on america and other distant countries.
And your 1.9 percent majority doesn't give you a mandate to leave in the worst way possible.
So get your head around that instead of spouting farage propaganda
To be fair to Kaz, she was conned and believed the lies she was sold. It happens everyday and we've all been conned in our life, be it by a person in a relationship, or someone selling us something that doesn't turn out to be what was promised. The shame is on the shysters that lied and cheated, not the people that believed them.
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To be fair to Kaz, she was conned and believed the lies she was sold. It happens everyday and we've all been conned in our life, be it by a person in a relationship, or someone selling us something that doesn't turn out to be what was promised. The shame is on the shysters that lied and cheated, not the people that believed them.
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As despite all the evidence pointing to it being a disaster for us, people still stick their heads in the sand and say its nothing to worry about and its just 'project fear'.
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To be fair to Kaz, she was conned and believed the lies she was sold. It happens everyday and we've all been conned in our life, be it by a person in a relationship, or someone selling us something that doesn't turn out to be what was promised. The shame is on the shysters that lied and cheated, not the people that believed them.
The problem is though, the people who do / did believe the lies though are parroting that we will be ok, even in the face of leaked documents, with it becoming more increasingly obvious that a No Deal is going to at best massively impact the poor and vulnerable and at worst bring the country to its knees and impact us all hugely. I'm genuinely worried for my son's generation
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The problem is though, the people who do / did believe the lies though are parroting that we will be ok, even in the face of leaked documents, with it becoming more increasingly obvious that a No Deal is going to at best massively impact the poor and vulnerable and at worst bring the country to its knees and impact us all hugely. I'm genuinely worried for my son's generation
He'll be fine. I'm sure in Boris' glorious vision for our country he'll be working 19 hour days in factories before he hits puberty.
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Most people dont want the country turning its back on its neighbours and becoming dependent on america and other distant countries.
And your 1.9 percent majority doesn't give you a mandate to leave in the worst way possible.
So get your head around that instead of spouting farage propaganda
So why don't you get your head round that some people don't agree with you and stop spouting fear all the time.As for Farage, I don't follow him so don't know that much about him ,so there you go again spouting off that you think you know who and what people are listening to.
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And your 1.9 percent majority doesn't give you a mandate to leave in the worst way possible.
So get your head around that instead of spouting farage propaganda
So why don't you get your head round that some people don't agree with you and stop spouting fear all the time.As for Farage, I don't follow him so don't know that much about him ,so there you go again spouting off that you think you know who and what people are listening to.
So what about BJ's own government saying what a disaster no deal will be? Is BJ part of project fear, too?
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So what about BJ's own government saying what a disaster no deal will be? Is BJ part of project fear, too?
Its a mess , not going to deny that and IF Corbyn is so eager to sort Brexit let him back a more popular MP to do it, from what I have seen he is just too desperate to be PM at any costs, lots of MPs want to remain ,hence the blocking of Mays deal all the time , we had a deal it was not good enough for them , so what do they think they can achieve now? and what do you say to all those people who voted to come out ? In a way I hope Corbyn gets in there, lets see what he can do and what he will do if we have another vote and its the same outcome.
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Most people dont want the country turning its back on its neighbours and becoming dependent on america and other distant countries.
And your 1.9 percent majority doesn't give you a mandate to leave in the worst way possible.
So get your head around that instead of spouting farage propaganda
So why don't you get your head round that some people don't agree with you and stop spouting fear all the time.As for Farage, I don't follow him so don't know that much about him ,so there you go again spouting off that you think you know who and what people are listening to.
Says the person reducing other peoples opinion to being influenced 'project fear' ..

You do know that phrase is just right wing media spin don't you? Define project fear for me, because it seems to me it's just mocking people and businesses with relevant concern and genuine anxiety surrounding no deal ...without providing adequate reassurance.

Just what are you listening to?
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Was listening to LBC this morning and Corbyn doesn't seem that popular to me, ministers have blocked the deal May had at every opportunity, so Corbyn wont do any better, he will just delay it and it will be the same old ,same old drivel all the time,most people are sick of talking about it,sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind so if we have to come out with no deal,so be it,I am sure we will all cope,we have coped with much worse, people voted out so out we should come whether we like it or not,we cant all have what we want,people just want it so easy all the time .The project fear is being rolled out constantly,its a load of tosh,We will be fine,might have a few teething problems but we will get through it.
Some people will cope.....but not all. The number of families on the breadline will increase, the number of children living in poverty will increase, people having to claim benefits will increase. The wealthy will cope, the poor will not
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Issue with 'people voted leave so no deal is fine' is..a hell of a lot of people voted leave as we were assured there would be some kind of deal. They might not have voted leave if they knew..well the ****show the whole thing would become.

Noone will ever get any deal passed in parliament I don't think, seems way too 50/50.
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Yeah, 'project fear'..is anything but. Its simply, truthtelling. Yet, so many are willing to overlook the obvious problems we would have crashing out with no deal..and it baffles me tbh.
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I don't believe that anyone would be happy sending their child to bed in a cold house in winter without a meal, just so we can leave the EU because they think they "won" something in the referendum, and they are so desperate to collect their prize.
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