[arista]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

That's selfish though isnt it? Just because you can survive it doesnt mean millions of others can

No I am stating I am
ready for much Worse.

Its important to get the Truth.
not some dream.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes You Are Right

more Cancer people were all waiting to be saved

then Covid 19 changed their future.



They can not "balance it out"

I like your vision- but it is not our sad future

So Covid deaths are all that matter, and other deaths aren't in the equation? that's some strange logic arista. Thankfully the people making the decisions are likely to understand the real risks, and not take this "it doesn't matter how many die so long as fewer die of Covid" approach.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I've been trying to tell arista that these numbers don't mean that much unless you scale by population size since February. He's not listening, Livia .

Even comparing Spain to Italy for example, Spain was hit harder than it looks at first glance, as they have a population of 40m compared to Italy's 60m.

The US should be "expected" to be 5x Italy/UK because they have 5x the population (not 10x Smithy ) but in part its like comparing apples to oranges... Some of the big, open states will be able to handle it much better because of "natural" social distancing (small population per square mile) whereas if you just take New York City as an example separate to the whole US, the figures are especially harsh. Nearly 6000 deaths in a population of 8 million. Although its a similar situation in London.

Sorry, idk why I said ten

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

No I am stating I am

ready for much Worse.



Its important to get the Truth.

not some dream.

On the contrary arista... I believe it might be that you, personally, are more worried about getting Covid than you are about these other considerations and so it's you who is engaging in some "wishful thinking" that we'll all just stay locked away for a year.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by arista

So you want more Deaths?

What a way to twist what she said , it's likely lockdown will be lifted later this year. But obviously there will still be some restrictions.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So Covid deaths are all that matter, and other deaths aren't in the equation? that's some strange logic arista. Thankfully the people making the decisions are likely to understand the real risks, and not take this "it doesn't matter how many die so long as fewer die of Covid" approach.

No of course
other deaths matter.
But sadly Covid 19 spreads so fast
it matters more.

Yes Fewer Deaths from Covid 19
are everyone's aim.

It has Literally Pushed Cancer Patients to Die


Johnson /Raab
not building New Big Labs to test (that is so wrong)
so post it of to Germany Roche Labs.

[James]

Here's an article about what the options are about ending or reducing the lockdown - 'Coronavirus lockdown: How can we lift restrictions?'

Click the link - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52183295

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

On the contrary arista... I believe it might be that you, personally, are more worried about getting Covid than you are about these other considerations and so it's you who is engaging in some "wishful thinking" that we'll all just stay locked away for a year.

Thats not me at all
but if you dare to break the Lockdown
faster deaths will return.

Many Top Business People
are now preparing for a Year Lockdown

[arista]

Originally Posted by James

Here's an article about what the options are about ending or reducing the lockdown - 'Coronavirus lockdown: How can we lift restrictions?'

Click the link - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52183295

Thank You James

[Why can't we just lift lockdown?
We cannot simply return to normal after cases peak or even after they are reduced to very low levels.
The best estimate of the proportion of people infected (and potentially immune) in the UK is just 4%. Or to put that another way - more than 63 million are still vulnerable to the infection.
If we just lift the lockdown, then another explosive outbreak is inevitable. ]

[user104658]

Yes but it's not about suddenly lifting all restrictions. Social distancing will continue for a long time, large gatherings will be banned for a long time, supermarket restrictions (queueing, one way systems) will continue for a long time... Etc.

However some of the other big things - like non-emergency medical functions - will have to be recommenced long before a year. I'd also be very surprised if they keep schools completely closed for a year. Though they might do something like 3-day weeks, staggered classes for reduced class size, etc.

[arista]

Yes Schools Shut for a year
is hard times.
But kids will learn Covid 19
spreads so fast. And there is no other way.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes but it's not about suddenly lifting all restrictions. Social distancing will continue for a long time, large gatherings will be banned for a long time, supermarket restrictions (queueing, one way systems) will continue for a long time... Etc.

However some of the other big things - like non-emergency medical functions - will have to be recommenced long before a year. I'd also be very surprised if they keep schools completely closed for a year. Though they might do something like 3-day weeks, staggered classes for reduced class size, etc.

Yeah they'll be restrictions & rules in place for a long time.

They can't keep full lockdown for a year . I guess we'll see what happens.

[arista]

Until a Safe Vaccine
appears - nothing can change
hence one year Lockdown.

[Kizzy]

Karen: I'd like to speak to the manager please.
Govt: What seems to be the problem?
Karen: I'd like to exchange this sombrero for a top hat.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by arista

Until a Safe Vaccine
appears - nothing can change
hence one year Lockdown.

It can change, there is a possibility of tracking healthy people and making those infecting stay in

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Until a Safe Vaccine
appears - nothing can change
hence one year Lockdown.

The harsh reality is that a safe vaccine might not be possible - ever - not all viruses are vaccine preventable. If that's the case, things eventually will have to change.

But this isn't a discussion arista, it's just you stonewalling stating things as facts that are not facts at all. It's a bit of a waste of time I'm afraid.

[arista]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

It can change, there is a possibility of tracking healthy people and making those infecting stay in

Tracking works well in Full 5G South Korea
(was on BBC Click some weeks ago)


In the UK its much slower

[arista]

"a safe vaccine might not be possible"

No it will be worked on
in many nations
a solution is near.

[arista]

USA Death Total this hour is 18,780

[arista]

Live Today around 4PM
10 Downing St.
Its Patel , Home Sec

[Kizzy]

Just reading this article...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9459711.html

This can't be a one off, is it the police trying to give an indication of just how many are passing without ever being seen by a medical professional?

[Kizzy]

At first I thought this was an amusing article..
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...hs-nightingale

Then I thought, hang on where did the BBC get a working ventilator from and who sold it?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

At first I thought this was an amusing article..
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...hs-nightingale

Then I thought, hang on where did the BBC get a working ventilator from and who sold it?

Kizzy BBC bought it years ago
well before a shortage

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Kizzy BBC bought it years ago
well before a shortage

When exactly?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

When exactly?

Could be up to 8 or 10 years ago.
They will not give the year.

Holby City BBC1HD