[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

Nope, no problem seeing two members of the opposite sex kissing.
I think it's natural in a reproductive sense, what men and women were put here to do. Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it.

So its unnatural, but not wrong????

[Dr43%er]

Two women kissing is the most natural thing in the world. I witnessed it once and it rocked, so it is natural. Fact. (cross thread sarcasm mode turned off) off you go ladies, lez up like there is no tomorrow.

[xXEtchieXx]

Originally posted by kizwiz

So its unnatural, but not wrong????

That's what I said yes

[xXEtchieXx]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Two women kissing is the most natural thing in the world. I witnessed it once and it rocked, so it is natural. Fact. (cross thread sarcasm mode turned off) off you go ladies, lez up like there is no tomorrow.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[Dr43%er]

I am sure it is very natural for the people involved.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : xXEtchieXx

Ok just explain which part of my posts were homophobic in any any?

"Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people."

"Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it."

"I mean it's not something I particularly want to see one my TV screen when i'm eating my dinner or when Im out about."

Is that enough ?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

Nope, no problem seeing two members of the opposite sex kissing.
I think it's natural in a reproductive sense, what men and women were put here to do. Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it.

So your point here now is that gay people are "unatural" because they can't reproduce? And in your view men and women were put on this earth to reproduce? Feelings don't come into it at all? Do me a favour, and ask some gay people, had they the choice, would they rather be straight or gay? You may be surprised by some of the answers some people come out with, all because of the bigotry in todays society and the intolerance some people have.

You say that it's not wrong, but you clearly have a problem with it if you can't stand to see 2 men or 2 men kissing. I view them as people. Maybe you need to open your mind and view things differently, as it is clearly you that has the problem. Think about it.

[Psylocke]

Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

Nope, no problem seeing two members of the opposite sex kissing.
I think it's natural in a reproductive sense, what men and women were put here to do. Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it.

i think you are trying to be correct just maybe going about it the wrong way.

think of it like this,if a man and woman were unable to have children would they be wrong and against nature? see how that sounds,not very nice.

Homosexuality is as old as humans are,its always been here,in history around the world in some places it was even recognised and celebrated.

Its also apparent in nearly every species,did you know peguin males mate for life,even adopting baby peguins as there own.


Homosexuality is just another human trait,thats more dominant in some males and females than others (tho its been argued that 99% of humans are not 100% straight).

its our society thats making it unnatural not nature.

[xXEtchieXx]

Originally posted by sunshine30

"Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people."

"Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it."

"I mean it's not something I particularly want to see one my TV screen when i'm eating my dinner or when Im out about."

Is that enough ?

So me stating that two members of the same sex kissing is an unnatural act is homophobia is it?

[Psylocke]

Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

So me stating that two members of the same sex kissing is an unnatural act is homophobia is it?

LOL,yes

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : xXEtchieXx

So me stating that two members of the same sex kissing is an unnatural act is homophobia is it?

How to say that...YES ! And don't be proud of this really, it's a shame for you !

[xXEtchieXx]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva

So your point here now is that gay people are "unatural" because they can't reproduce? And in your view men and women were put on this earth to reproduce? Feelings don't come into it at all? Do me a favour, and ask some gay people, had they the choice, would they rather be straight or gay? You may be surprised by some of the answers some people come out with, all because of the bigotry in todays society and the intolerance some people have.

You say that it's not wrong, but you clearly have a problem with it if you can't stand to see 2 men or 2 men kissing. I view them as people. Maybe you need to open your mind and view things differently, as it is clearly you that has the problem. Think about it.

I didn't say I cant stand seeing two men kissing, I just dont like to see it. Doesn't mean I'm gonna abuse them or ask them to stop, it's their right they can do what they like.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

So me stating that two members of the same sex kissing is an unnatural act is homophobia is it?

Definitely. Don't you realise that?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

I didn't say I cant stand seeing two men kissing, I just dont like to see it. Doesn't mean I'm going to abuse them or ask them to stop, it's their right they can do what they like.

Apologies. You said you "don't like seeing 2 men kiss" and "not something I particularly want to see on my TV screen when i'm eating". "Stand" was obviously the wrong word to choose.

[xXEtchieXx]

According to Wikipedia:

Homophobia is the irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals. It can also mean hatred, hostility, disapproval of, or prejudice towards homosexual people, sexual behavior, or cultures, and is generally used to insinuate bigotry.

I certainly do not fear homosexuals.
I do not hate or discriminate against homosexuals and their sexuality.
I'm not hostile towards them.
I do not disapprove homosexuality, homosexual people, sexual behaviour and cultures.
Nor am I predjudice towards gay people.

I'm sorry Psylocke but I disagree with you.

[xXEtchieXx]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva

Apologies. You said you "don't like seeing 2 men kiss" and "not something I particularly want to see on my TV screen when i'm eating". "Stand" was obviously the wrong word to choose.

Apology accepted.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

I do not disapprove homosexuality, homosexual people, sexual behaviour and cultures.

You obviously do as you said it was unnatural.

From the free dictionary:

unnatural: In violation of natural feelings; inhuman.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

Apology accepted.

Thanks ever so much.

[xXEtchieXx]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva

You obviously do as you said it was unnatural.

From the free dictionary:

unnatural: In violation of natural feelings; inhuman.

No, me disapproving would be me sitting here and saying it's wrong to be gay.
I'm genuinely sorry if i'm hurting anyone's feelings here because that is not my intention.

[Psylocke]

Originally posted by xXEtchieXx


I'm sorry Psylocke but I disagree with you.

Disagree with me about what?,i was the one saying you were just wording yourself wrong.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

No, me disapproving would be me sitting here and saying it's wrong to be gay.
I'm genuinely sorry if i'm hurting anyone's feelings here because that is not my intention.

The fact is you used the word unnatural.

I hope you have taken peoples thoughts on board and this has at least been a thought provoking thread for you.

[xXEtchieXx]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva

The fact is you used the word unnatural.

I hope you have taken peoples thoughts on board and this has at least been a thought provoking thread for you.

Well you've asked me how its unnatural, so in what way is it a natural thing?
Not really no, it's just a matter of opinion I guess. Being brought up amongst men my entire life you should be able to understand why I dont like seeing them kiss. Women I can handle, men not so much.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

Well you've asked me how its unnatural, so in what way is it a natural thing?
Not really no, it's just a matter of opinion I guess.

Your post speaks volumes about yourself. And so does your attitude.

And I notice your mood on your avvy. Is that supposed to be funny?

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

Well you've asked me how its unnatural, so in what way is it a natural thing?

Its about feelings.... an emotion every human has..... each person is an individual and as such its irrelevant as to who is attracted to whom.

Not whether is it "natural" as you say.

[xXEtchieXx]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva

Your post speaks volumes about yourself. And so does your attitide.

There is no attitude, i'm not gonna say i've learned loads because I haven't this thread hasn't taught me anything I didn't already know accept unnatural may be the wrong term. You can insult me all you want but you can't answer the question, so your arguments have no backbone. That speaks volumes about you.