[jet]

For Slim Reaper:

Full article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...rmer-self.html

Prince Harry's biographer Angela Levin claims he's become 'a shadow of his former self' after losing some of his 'mischievous charm and royal stardust' and only focusing on negativity

Her remarks come as the Royal Family reels from the bombshell claims made in the Sussexes' biography Finding Freedom, released next week, which lays bare a rift between the couple and senior members of The Firm.....
......Revealing her thoughts about extracts of the biography made available so far, Angela said: 'When you read the book you realise the pile of grievances Meghan and Harry hold. This is going back a few years now, it is absolutely extraordinary.
'Most of these grievances are incredibly petty, but when you add them up it is like a great big sandcastle.
'They ignore all of the wonderful things they have had, the prerogatives and chances to meet great people and do charity work they want to do. It seems to me they have focused entirely on the negative.'.......

[Nicky91]

Diana adored by the press?

stalking someone until the moment of her fatal car accident isn't a good form of adoration though

@Jet


as for the warmth, hmm Diana also could've easily been a actress too, i even would say Kate comes across more warm, sincere than Diana and lol i am not Kate's biggest fan or any of those middletons but i had to say this


i defend neither there, press had (still have) their faults, and Diana had her faults

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Diana adored by the press?

stalking someone until the moment of her fatal car accident isn't a good form of adoration though

@Jet


as for the warmth, hmm Diana also could've easily been a actress too, i even would say Kate comes across more warm, sincere than Diana and lol i am not Kate's biggest fan or any of those middletons but i had to say this


i defend neither there, press had (still have) their faults, and Diana had her faults

Diana died due to a drunk driver at the wheel./


Get your facts in order

[user104658]

"He's lost his mojo, it must be his wife's fault!" claims yet another journalist writing opinion pieces on a man's private life.

I wonder if the author can think of any other reasons Harry might be feeling a bit down lately? 'tis a mystery that may never be solved I guess.

[Crimson Dynamo]

ONE of Prince Harry’s oldest and closest friends Tom 'Skippy' Inskip shared his doubts about Meghan Markle when she arrived on the scene, a new book claims.

Skippy, who was inseparable with Harry since they met at Eton, advised Harry and Meghan to live together “before doing anything more serious”.

A source close to the couple told authors Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand that although his advice “came from a good place,” Prince Harry “didn’t totally see it that way”.

After sharing their reservations about Meghan, Skippy and wife Lara were said to be “punished” by not being invited to Harry and Meghan’s wedding party at Frogmore House.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/12...st-news-adele/

[Crimson Dynamo]

Interesting comment from that DM article

"I don't think what Harry has for Meghan can in any way be described as love. She triggered his deepest needs, insecurities, and weaknesses in a pathological way. What he feels for Markle isn't love, it's the need of a completely dependent infant child for its mother. In healthy people and situations, children eventually become separate entities, develop their own identities, and grow out of the need phase. At that point they can become fully-functioning people, capable of real love. I don't see that happening with Harry any time soon."

[Niamh.]

I've deleted a lot of posts in this thread, I'm going to reopen it but I would like to remind people that getting personal with other forum members is against the rules. Please stick to the thread topic or you will end up being banned from the Serious debates Section or infracted.

[Crimson Dynamo]

PRINCE Harry has insisted that it will take "every single person on the planet" to defeat racism.

''Inequality is not unfortunate like a car accident, it has been manufactured."

Said the Royal Prince living in his 21 million dollar mansion for free

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews...feat-everyone/

[jet]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

PRINCE Harry has insisted that it will take "every single person on the planet" to defeat racism.

''Inequality is not unfortunate like a car accident, it has been manufactured."

Said the Royal Prince living in his 21 million dollar mansion for free

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews...feat-everyone/

Another day, another lecture from a stressed - out looking Harry.
It mentions in the article that their biographer Scobie says Meghan is teaching Harry 'how to be woke'. It's not doing him any good, he looks like a right miserable sod these days.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

Another day, another lecture from a stressed - out looking Harry.

He doesn't look or sound stressed out at all in that video . Seeing what you want to see, I suspect.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

He doesn't look or sound stressed out at all in that video . Seeing what you want to see, I suspect.

That works both ways.
That is the 4th video I've seen of him this week pontificating earnestly about some weighty subject. Ffs Harry go and do something fun that makes the news like naked pool shenanigans, like you used to. It would do you the world of good.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jet

That works both ways.
That is the 4th video I've seen of him this week pontificating earnestly about some weighty subject. Ffs Harry go and do something fun that makes the news like naked pool shenanigans, like you used to. It would do you the world of good.

I thought he just wanted a Quiet fun life?....I think Meghan had other ideas
Harry seems desperate to find a role in his life....he just seems like a lost soul atm.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Yep, they are jumping on every latest bandwagon to make waves with their pontificating, trying to stay relevant on their own. If they led the private life they said they wanted there would be nothing for the press to report. They are embarrassing themselves.

They wanted their private life to be private, which it now is.

If you thought they were going to disappear never to be seen again then that's something you have misunderstood from the start.

Who knew wanting to do work for the good of millions of other people would attract such animosity.

Originally Posted by jet

That works both ways.
That is the 4th video I've seen of him this week pontificating earnestly about some weighty subject. Ffs Harry go and do something fun that makes the news like naked pool shenanigans, like you used to. It would do you the world of good.

Yet, if they were "having fun like naked pool shenanigans" you'd be slagging them off for that.

[Liam-]

Bless him, speaking out on issues that affect millions of people around the world on a daily basis, he’s so tortured

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Bless him, speaking out on issues that affect millions of people around the world on a daily basis, he’s so tortured

Also, expected to be joyful, relaxed, fun loving Harry when he's talking about really worrying, concerning issues that he has his own strong feelings on.

As if he has to be grinning and be the fun Prince no matter what he's saying about, or where he's saying it on really serious issues.
Unbelievable.

If he was attending a funeral and shed tears, it would likely be reported Meghan was the cause of that too.

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Also, expected to be joyful, relaxed, fun loving Harry when he's talking about really worrying, concerning issues that he has his own strong feelings on.

As if he has to be grinning and be the fun Prince no matter what he's saying about, or where he's saying it on really serious issues.
Unbelievable.

If he was attending a funeral and shed tears, it would likely be reported Meghan was the cause of that too.

Yes, but WHY is he talking about worrying, concerning issues every other day NOW. It was a rare thing to see him do so in all of his 36 years. Even in the past when talking about his passion, the Invictus games, his infectious, bubbly personality shone through. That is completely gone. Maybe because he was sincerely passionate and enthusiastic about the Invictus games and wounded veterans. I'm not sure his heart is fully in what he is saying now, he sounds like Meghans puppet.

Does he really believe that the British public are happy to tolerate an enormously privileged man wagging his finger at them about their supposed racism, actually apologising for them and their ‘unconscious bias’ or how they are destroying the environment while hopping on private jets and driving gas guzzling SUV’s. I mean, who does he think he is?

They left the Royal family, thinking they were going to be lauded in the USA, (or more likely, Meghan did) - mingling with A list celebs, bringing in big bucks making speeches and being the star turn at glittering charity balls. Meghan becoming a big noise in politics even - and I think now that is her aim, and why they are jumping on the latest ‘in’ cause to come along every 5 minutes. Their biggest fear, imo, is fading into obscurity after their big dramatic departure from the Royals, so they have to get their faces out there somehow, anyhow.

That was a big reason why they left the Royals in the first place - the 2 heirs were more important than they were and they couldn’t bear not being the star turns. The public being all newly fangled with the newlyweds went to their heads and they thought the world was their oyster and the Royals would suffer terribly without them - It was the “We’ll show them”!!! mentality. Well, all they have showed us is 2 bores who are desperate for relevance. JMO!

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, but WHY is he talking about worrying, concerning issues every other day NOW. It was a rare thing to see him do so in all of his 36 years. Even in the past when talking about his passion, the Invictus games, his infectious, bubbly personality shone through. That is completely gone. Maybe because he was sincerely passionate and enthusiastic about the Invictus games and wounded veterans. I'm not sure his heart is fully in what he is saying now, he sounds like Meghans puppet.

Does he really believe that the British public are happy to tolerate an enormously privileged man wagging his finger at them about their supposed racism, actually apologising for them and their ‘unconscious bias’ or how they are destroying the environment while hopping on private jets and driving gas guzzling SUV’s. I mean, who does he think he is?

They left the Royal family, thinking they were going to be lauded in the USA, (or more likely, Meghan did) - mingling with A list celebs, bringing in big bucks making speeches and being the star turn at glittering charity balls. Meghan becoming a big noise in politics even - and I think now that is her aim, and why they are jumping on the latest ‘in’ cause to come along every 5 minutes. Their biggest fear, imo, is fading into obscurity after their big dramatic departure from the Royals, so they have to get their faces out there somehow, anyhow.

That was a big reason why they left the Royals in the first place - the 2 heirs were more important than they were and they couldn’t bear not being the star turns. The public being all newly fangled with the newlyweds went to their heads and they thought the world was their oyster and the Royals would suffer terribly without them - It was the “We’ll show them”!!! mentality. Well, all they have showed us is 2 bores who are desperate for relevance. JMO!

....I couldnt agree more.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Markle DID take offence to Princess Michael of Kent's brooch that she wore to Christmas lunch and thought it was 'insensitive' towards her African American heritage, biography claims

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Getting enraged abiout jewellery ?

I mean is there any end to what she will do to undermine the Royal Family?

[Cherie]

Meghan was often seen carrying binders full of research on Royal protocol so she didn't put a foot wrong

who writes this stuff

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Markle DID take offence to Princess Michael of Kent's brooch that she wore to Christmas lunch and thought it was 'insensitive' towards her African American heritage, biography claims

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Getting enraged abiout jewellery ?

I mean is there any end to what she will do to undermine the Royal Family?

Remember she's American, race is more of a "thing" there. It's not something most Brits (of any race) need to think about, but the USA has an uglier history of race relations.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Remember she's American, race is more of a "thing" there. It's not something most Brits (of any race) need to think about, but the USA has an uglier history of race relations.

Hmmmmm whilst general population race issues MAY be less tense here than in the US... I'm not entirely sure that applies to the aristocracy or royalty. There are some clear implications there and it's hardly the first time the issue of racism has reared it's head in the family. Philip exists.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hmmmmm whilst general population race issues MAY be less tense here than in the US... I'm not entirely sure that applies to the aristocracy or royalty. There are some clear implications there and it's hardly the first time the issue of racism has reared it's head in the family. Philip exists.

I get what you're saying, but which do you find more likely

- Princess Michael thought "mwahaha, this brooch will really annoy the **** **** with whom Harry insists knocking about!!!"

- She rummaged through her jewellery box, thought it looked nice, and bunged it on

?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I get what you're saying, but which do you find more likely

- Princess Michael thought "mwahaha, this brooch will really annoy the **** **** with whom Harry insists knocking about!!!"

- She rummaged through her jewellery box, thought it looked nice, and bunged it on

?

tbf it could as easily be either answer Oliver

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I get what you're saying, but which do you find more likely

- Princess Michael thought "mwahaha, this brooch will really annoy the Yankee negress with whom Harry insists knocking about!!!"

- She rummaged through her jewellery box, thought it looked nice, and bunged it on

?

If it was (mostly) anyone else I'd give the benefit of the doubt but with Princess Michael I think there's a high probability that it was intentional. She has prior. It may have been intended to be more subtle than it was.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hmmmmm whilst general population race issues MAY be less tense here than in the US... I'm not entirely sure that applies to the aristocracy or royalty. There are some clear implications there and it's hardly the first time the issue of racism has reared it's head in the family. Philip exists.

mmmhhmm