[Oliver_W]

I'm on the "yes side of agnostic" with this sort of thing.

[Jessica.]

Nobody is able to do magic.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Go and see a "psychic" at a local theatre, sit down and just have a look around you

that will be enough to tell you all you need to know, and you don't have to be psychic to do this

[Zizu]

What a load of bollox !

Do a google/ wiki search on the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge .


It ran since 1966 and a million dollars was the prize to anyone who could demonstrate a supernatural or paranormal ability under agreed-upon scientific testing criteria.

So anyone who could prove any form of GIFT … mind reading , spoon bending , levitation - the prize was obviously open to psychics and mediums as well etc etc


Not one person even got close to claiming the prize . Just imagine how much €1 million would be in today’s money !

Edit

That high profile scam merchant Uri Geller attempted to scam his way to the million dollars but he was unsurprisingly caught cheating each and every time .

On one occasion he turned up with his own selection of spoons to show off his legendary ‘spoon bending’ skills but he refused to go ahead when he realised that they had purchased a set of new spoons for him to use !!

He claimed at the time that “ he just wasn’t feeling it “ … of course the adjudicators knew that all Uri’s spoons were pre-bent repeatedly to dramatically weaken them ..


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[ThomasC]

No I don't think so at all

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

What a load of bollox !

Do a google/ wiki search on the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge .


It ran since 1966 and a million dollars was the prize to anyone who could demonstrate a supernatural or paranormal ability under agreed-upon scientific testing criteria.

So anyone who could prove any form of GIFT … mind reading , spoon bending , levitation - the prize was obviously open to psychics and mediums as well etc etc


Not one person even got close to claiming the prize . Just imagine how much €1 million would be in today’s money !

Edit

That high profile scam merchant Uri Geller attempted to scam his way to the million dollars but he was unsurprisingly caught cheating each and every time .

On one occasion he turned up with his own selection of spoons to show off his legendary ‘spoon bending’ skills but he refused to go ahead when he realised that they had purchased a set of new spoons for him to use !!

He claimed at the time that “ he just wasn’t feeling it “ … of course the adjudicators knew that all Uri’s spoons were pre-bent repeatedly to dramatically weaken them ..


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I was really into James Randi for a while

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Nobody is able to do magic.

I completely disagree. My belief is that life is more spiritual than physical. And if you're used to seeing key elements of the world through the lens of introverted intuition (like I outlined earlier), that makes more sense, irrespective of your religious, esoteric or sub-cultural background.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Redway

I completely disagree. My belief is that life is more spiritual than physical. And if you're used to seeing key elements of the world through the lens of introverted intuition (like I outlined earlier), that makes more sense, irrespective of your religious, esoteric or sub-cultural background.

I don't believe we have spirits.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I don't believe we have spirits.

And that's where you and I are completely, completely different people. That's not a belief I could get with in 10,000 trillion years.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Redway

And that's where you and I are completely, completely different people. That's not a belief I could get with in 10,000 trillion years.

Why not? There's zero proof of spirits. We are our brains, that's it, chemical reactions, electric pulses and organic materials, there's nothing else.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Why not? There's zero proof of spirits. We are our brains, that's it, chemical reactions, electric pulses and organic materials, there's nothing else.

You're welcome to have that opinion but I'm welcome to disagree with you completely and utterly. Our experiences of life are completely different.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Why not? There's zero proof of spirits. We are our brains, that's it, chemical reactions, electric pulses and organic materials, there's nothing else.

precisely and of course those who "say" they believe in such things can never explain how it may work beyond "its magic innit"

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

precisely and of course those who "say" they believe in such things can never explain how it may work beyond "its magic innit"

You haven't changed a bit, have you?

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Redway

You're welcome to have that opinion but I'm welcome to disagree with you completely and utterly. Our experiences of life are completely different.

It's not an opinion, it's a straight up fact but I think people should be able to believe what they want so I'd never argue about it.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

It's not an opinion, it's a straight up fact but I think people should be able to believe what they want so I'd never argue about it.

Tell that straight-up fact to all the millions of people in this world who have faith. People who have seen things in the spiritual realm that you with your particular purview of life experiences can’t even begin to imagine.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

I completely disagree. My belief is that life is more spiritual than physical. And if you're used to seeing key elements of the world through the lens of introverted intuition (like I outlined earlier), that makes more sense, irrespective of your religious, esoteric or sub-cultural background.

Are you drinking ?



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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Tell that straight-up fact to all the millions of people in this world who have faith. People who have seen things in the spiritual realm that you with your particular purview of life experiences can’t even begin to imagine.

They have convinced themselves that they’ve seen things .. usually out of sheer desperation


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