[bots]

i am adamant that my lad will take his phone with him to school

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i am adamant that my lad will take his phone with him to school

I'll make you a bad parent badge too BOTS, we can wear them when we throw in LTs metaphorical towel

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

But as they leave the school
they get their phone back


No kid has been abducted in a school.

Coming back from school tho..and even if it hasn't happened yet, potential is there which is enough to mitigate risk. It's not just abduction anyway. Could have any number of things they need to contact you about, or vice versa. Along with tracking as has been mentioned.

No phones at all in unenforceable as parents won't allow it tbh, for good reason. Off/silent through the day and if caught messing on class, detention or something I think most reasonable parents would agree to.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Coming back from school tho..and even if it hasn't happened yet, potential is there which is enough to mitigate risk. It's not just abduction anyway. Could have any number of things they need to contact you about, or vice versa. Along with tracking as has been mentioned.

No phones at all in unenforceable as parents won't allow it tbh, for good reason. Off/silent through the day and if caught messing on class, detention or something I think most reasonable parents would agree to.

100% agree

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Who is "we all" there is only really you and I in this conversation?

I've asked how you think it will improve education....that's all?

I am not throwing in any towel From a safety point of view in today's world, phones are a godsend. I would not leave home alone without my phone....why should I make an 11 12 /13 year old etc go take a bus to high school with no means of contacting someone if there is a problem?

As a responsible parent, I would call that safeguarding but if you call that throwing in the towel fair enough. I'm happy enough to wear that badge as I said

Well I don't know about anyone else but I was sitting her wondering why you're always throwing towels Annie, so rude

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well I don't know about anyone else but I was sitting her wondering why you're always throwing towels Annie, so rude

What can I say.....I love the way towels fly

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

What can I say.....I love the way towels fly

[Beso]

If someone wants to abduct a kid so bad they will just pick them up and throw the phone away...

The reason people don't abduct so much these days is probably down to the advanced CCTV operation the conservative government has put together.

Bullies, well by the time your kid is phoning you they will already have been bullied.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well I don't know about anyone else but I was sitting her wondering why you're always throwing towels Annie, so rude

Sheals flicking Lts naked butt with the wet end, the big bully that she is.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

If someone wants to abduct a kid so bad they will just pick them up and throw the phone away...

The reason people don't abduct so much these days is probably down to the advanced CCTV operation the conservative government has put together.

Bullies, well by the time your kid is phoning you they will already have been bullied.

It's not just bullying or abduction though....as I said I wouldn't leave home without my phone in case of an emergency so why should I send my kid out with no way of contacting anyone if he needed someone for any reason.

[Ammi]

…I don’t think that anyone is objecting to the ban of any use of mobile phones in school unless there was a specific emergency type reason that had been agreed…it’s more the travelling to and from school and there are lots of reasons why children can need a phone….for medical reasons for instance or they may not be going directly home…so a parent needs to know if their child has got to their destination okay…I mean even at primary school level, there are many reasons why some children need and have to have phones for their school journey and obviously much more so at higher school level …it’s really more, how the system of ‘no phones’ will work during the school day and I assume some schools will have lockers systems etc…but that’s something that the schools will all have to work out individually as there won’t be a one size fits all schools system for phone storage….

[Tom4784]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i am adamant that my lad will take his phone with him to school

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I will stand and deliver my kid to school with his phone (when he is at high school and making his way to and fro alone) and am still waiting for LTs opinions on how banning them from school buildings will improve education. He's not very forthcoming with his opinion right now. But am hopeful he will have a good reason to suggest that its bad parenting to allow a child to take a phone to school.

[user104658]

Really at the end of the day, there’s no way to actually impose a ban anyway without repeatedly searching through kids stuff which is 1) not allowed and an invasion of privacy and 2) impossible in terms of time and resources… kids will just bring them anyway and keep them in their bag.

They weren’t allowed at my daughter’s primary school but most kids had them for the final two years… and by the end the teachers knew fine well they had them, it was just a sort of unspoken agreement of “we know it’s in your bag, but so long as it’s not seen on school grounds no one is going to say anything”.

It would just end up like that everywhere; people would have them in their bag on silent. How would anyone know?

The one thing they did come down on hard was if anyone was ever caught taking pictures/making videos in school. I think it happened twice in 2 years though.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I will stand and deliver my kid to school with his phone (when he is at high school and making his way to and fro alone) and am still waiting for LTs opinions on how banning them from school buildings will improve education. He's not very forthcoming with his opinion right now. But am hopeful he will have a good reason to suggest that its bad parenting to allow a child to take a phone to school.

Well I admire your optimistic view on the fact you think you're having an honest and good faith discussion.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Well I admire your optimistic view on the fact you think you're having an honest and good faith discussion.

To spend a full evening discussing it, I am hopeful there is reasoning behind it. We are adults and discussing children, their safety and their education. I refuse to be cynical and think someone would invest time to just troll.an opinion on it. Hopefully LT will prove me right.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Only a **** parent would want their kids out and about without a phone because them having a phone would be 'throwing in the towel' in their eyes.

Pity the parents who can’t afford to supply their kids with a phone….

[user104658]

LT has changed his mind because he realised that the school kids could use their phones to go on YouTube and learn how to peep out Orange marching tunes on their recorders in music class?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Really at the end of the day, there’s no way to actually impose a ban anyway without repeatedly searching through kids stuff which is 1) not allowed and an invasion of privacy and 2) impossible in terms of time and resources… kids will just bring them anyway and keep them in their bag.

They weren’t allowed at my daughter’s primary school but most kids had them for the final two years… and by the end the teachers knew fine well they had them, it was just a sort of unspoken agreement of “we know it’s in your bag, but so long as it’s not seen on school grounds no one is going to say anything”.

It would just end up like that everywhere; people would have them in their bag on silent. How would anyone know?

The one thing they did come down on hard was if anyone was ever caught taking pictures/making videos in school. I think it happened twice in 2 years though.

…back in the day, not that long ago actually…we had a 3 tier system with a middle school before high school and that middle school life would begin in what is primary year 5 now…?…that was ‘big school’…..now ‘big school’ is high school which begins in year 7 …but once at middle school, many children (…with parental consent…)….would travel to and from school independently of parents …when it was all changed to a two tier system, primary schools had to offer that same independence that had been previously given and incorporate it into their system for years 5 and...so children had the option (…with parental consent…)…of walking or cycling home without a parent…that’s another thing, a child could fall off their bike and need to contact someone….but anyway, yeah that’s when the ‘you can bring a phone into school, in fact we’d prefer you did’ policy began at our school for those children who were walking or cycling home without a parent…those phones are kept in the school office in a safe but that can be done on a small scale ….not obviously if most of the pupils are taking their phones in as in a high school…

[Beso]

Amazing how a thread can become so personal for no reason.

Worst of all though, we have non parents telling parents they are **** parents for deciding to not allow their kids to go to school with a mobile phone.


Absolutely disgusting

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Amazing how a thread can become so personal for no reason.

Worst of all though, we have non parents telling parents they are **** parents for deciding to not allow their kids to go to school with a mobile phone.


Absolutely disgusting

We also have parents telling parents that they are below the bar for allowing their kids to take a phone for safety reasons without giving a valid opinion on why mobile phones should be left at home.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

We also have parents telling parents that they are below the bar for allowing their kids to take a phone for safety reasons without giving a valid opinion on why mobile phones should be left at home.

I think you got a bit muddled up in your effort to defend yourself.


Lt seems to be talking about having phones in school ,and you agree with him on that, your issue seems to be about the journey to and from school, which isnt the same as what LT was saying.

That's how I read it anyway.

[Glenn.]

I don’t think anyone has an issue with banning phone usage in schools. Outright banning pupils having mobile phones on them at all is ridiculous and anyone that actually agrees with that is just trolling

[Beso]

How did kids ever survive in the 70s 80s and early 90s...the days of proper bullying and proper abduction..

How on earth did they survive.