[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Why does it matter where the accounts come from? Also, by looking up the users you only prove that some, not all, are overseas. I fail to see the point

…on a chat site, I was having a long conversation with two guys before the match….(…actually about their opinions of Boris Johnson etc…)…they’re both Malaysian …but obviously that was a multinational conversation but still partly U.K. based….I mean that’s the same for all of us, isn’t it….

[James]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Why does it matter where the accounts come from? Also, by looking up the users you only prove that some, not all, are overseas. I fail to see the point

I had a look on Twitter and there is a lot of commentary that says it proves how racist a country this is. A lot of political stuff being attached to it also.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by James

I had a look on Twitter and there is a lot of commentary that says it proves how racist a country this is. A lot of political stuff being attached to it also.

…but there is racism in this country and we do have a leader who has a history of his racist…(…and other bigoted…)….terminology so that does deserve some focus also and discussion also and this is an appropriate ‘time and place’ as Boris took the stance to not condemn the boos of taking the knee also….

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by James

I had a look on Twitter and there is a lot of commentary that says it proves how racist a country this is. A lot of political stuff being attached to it also.

it also proves how useful social media is in creating divisions and forcing a narrative, so it is a pretty good point in my view

Coming back to social media, I am on the Neighbourhood app and for instance if you mention covid you immediately get a pop up to say ...is this info correct, it will be taken down if not to prevent anti vaxxers spreading incorrect info or just false info in general, not sure why the same can't happen on Twitter et all... there are some words that should instantly create a block?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by James

I had a look on Twitter and there is a lot of commentary that says it proves how racist a country this is. A lot of political stuff being attached to it also.

And by looking up the users you havent proved those twitter comment are untrue. You've proved that some, not all, of the idiots are from overseas and nothing more.

[arista]

[12:18

Rashford mural vandalised in Withington
Police were called to reports of the racially
aggravated damage of a mural on Copson Street
in Withington at around 2.50am.
Chief Superintendent Paul Savill, of GMP's City of
Manchester division, said: "This is disgraceful behaviour
and will absolutely not be tolerated.

"Greater Manchester prides itself on being
made up from a number of diverse communities
and hate crime in any form is completely
unacceptable and not welcome here in our city.]

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by arista

[12:18

Rashford mural vandalised in Withington
Police were called to reports of the racially
aggravated damage of a mural on Copson Street
in Withington at around 2.50am.
Chief Superintendent Paul Savill, of GMP's City of
Manchester division, said: "This is disgraceful behaviour
and will absolutely not be tolerated.

"Greater Manchester prides itself on being
made up from a number of diverse communities
and hate crime in any form is completely
unacceptable and not welcome here in our city.]

I have posted a thread on this that got deleted because I pointed out that it didnt fit the racist narrative.

This shouldn’t be post in here.

We don’t like the man because he’s a scummy fake, not because of his race

[arista]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

I have posted a thread on this that got deleted because I pointed out that it didnt fit the racist narrative.

This shouldn’t be post in here.

We don’t like the man because he’s a scummy fake, not because of his race

Thats was on Live SkyNews Politics Feed

[The Slim Reaper]

Manchester police themselves have said it was racially motivated.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Manchester police themselves have said it was racially motivated.

Of course it was.....

[Ammi]

…when the England player racism was just touched on now, on the BBC news…?…the guy being interviewed, Tony Burnett said that this would by no means have been the first time or even the second or third time they would have experienced racism in their football career…the question was directly asked, has and is our government done and doing enough to support…?…and as he said, what the association has done is to take a stance against all anti discrimination/anti racism/anti equality by taking the knee…nothing more, nothing less and not linked to anything political…and received criticism for that and trying to infer politics…

…Political is being discussed widely in news media because political was already brought into this and leading up to now by being used as a reason not to support anti racism so it’s very appropriate and valid to discuss all aspects now…because here we are….

[arista]

[arista]

[just now

Downing Street hits back at Gary Neville's claims
We reported earlier on Gary Neville's criticism of the prime minister.

And Downing Street has now "utterly" rejected his claim.
The prime minister's official spokesman denied
the accusation that Boris Johnson promoted
racism by describing Muslim women as
looking like "letterboxes" in a newspaper column
before he became Tory leader.

The spokesman said: "I would utterly reject that claim.
The prime minister set out this morning his response
to some of the awful comments that we've seen."

Asked about the former England footballer's
allegation Mr Johnson and other ministers suggested
it was fine to boo players taking the knee,
the spokesman said: "It's not accurate.

"The prime minister was clear that he wanted
to see everyone getting behind the team to
cheer them on. He made that clear on the 11th,
before England's first game."]


https://news.sky.com/story/england-v...ayers-12353454

[Strictly Jake]

Just disgraceful. There were a lot of moments I was embarrassed to be English last night and today

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Just disgraceful. There were a lot of moments I was embarrassed to be English last night and today

there were moments i hated the english fans too


booing the italian national anthem is just immature, and also booing the italian players whenever in possession with the ball

i do like the chants/singing of english fans


Italy played better after the 0-1 i thought, more controlled and calm strategic play, good coaching job by Mancini too, the right moments now to be actively coaching, compared to rest of tournament where he was much calmer than last night



Donnarumma as best player of tournament also very deserving, he is a fab goalkeeper (but then again must be something in the water because italy always had good goalies, like Buffon, Zoff, the former whom is still active now at age of 45)

[Cherie]

Just listened to Gareth's press conference now and he confirmed a lot of the abusive messages have come from outside the country

Name and shame these countries

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Just disgraceful. There were a lot of moments I was embarrassed to be English last night and today

No excuses at all, my sons were the same yesterday, you have to consider there were 60K fans at Wembley yesterday and a small percentage of that caused trouble mainly ones without tickets

its all very well posting tweets of this and that, but you never see the other side where decent fans are just out to have a good day

[michael21]

If only footballer had money there could hire people to track theses scum down

[arista]

The Home Secretary Live in Parliament
has Labour MP's saying children can see the Instagram posts
of offensive attacks on Black Footballers.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by arista

The Home Secretary Live in Parliament
has Labour MP's saying children can see the Instagram posts
of offensive attacks on Black Footballers.

There just talk no action

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes Gareth said most were not from this country, so a tiny number as in every country. Just as we have a tiny number of people who want to rob you, attack you, break into your home, who want to drink drive, fly-tip the like.

BUT social media companies are the ones responsible for their platform so firmly put the focus on these BILLION dollar businesses and see what they will do as its a problem on THEIR platforms

[michael21]

Lt for pm

[Ammi]

…he didn’t say most ….he said a lot but specifically also said not all …and we knew that ….and it wasn’t long ago that a government report said that there was no racist issue…when they’re obviously is and that’s just in one particular area that’s being focused on atm within football…and has to be confronted and faced that there is a racism issue that couldn’t in this instance be dismissed with any report because it’s shown itself so publicly….we can either address that within or society or we can just ignore it and diminish it and dismiss it and all of those other avoiding tactics…because it’s not there in front of us facing us all ‘on a daily basis’ as has been said …

“I know a lot of that has come from abroad, that people who track those things have been able to explain that, but not all of it. It’s just not what we stand for. We have been a beacon of light in bringing people together in people being able to relate to the national team, and the national team stands for everybody and so that togetherness has to continue.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…he didn’t say most ….he said a lot but specifically also said not all …and we knew that ….and it wasn’t long ago that a government report said that there was no racist issue…when they’re obviously is and that’s just in one particular area that’s being focused on atm within football…and has to be confronted and faced that there is a racism issue that couldn’t in this instance be dismissed with any report because it’s shown itself so publicly….we can either address that within or society or we can just ignore it and diminish it and dismiss it and all of those other avoiding tactics…because it’s not there in front of us facing us all ‘on a daily basis’ as has been said …

“I know a lot of that has come from abroad, that people who track those things have been able to explain that, but not all of it. It’s just not what we stand for. We have been a beacon of light in bringing people together in people being able to relate to the national team, and the national team stands for everybody and so that togetherness has to continue.

".and it wasn’t long ago that a government report said that there was no racist issue"


no it did not, that is misinformation

It stated: Britain is a model for race relations and inequality between different ethnic groups may be caused by other factors.

The report concludes that while Britain is not a “post-racial society”, the success of ethnic minorities in education and the economy should be a “beacon” for other white-majority countries.

However, the Commission also makes clear that it does not believe Britain is a “a post-racial society” and that “overt and outright racism persists in the UK”, in particular online.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...Accessible.pdf

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

".and it wasn’t long ago that a government report said that there was no racist issue"


no it did not, that is misinformation

It stated: Britain is a model for race relations and inequality between different ethnic groups may be caused by other factors.

The report concludes that while Britain is not a “post-racial society”, the success of ethnic minorities in education and the economy should be a “beacon” for other white-majority countries.

However, the Commission also makes clear that it does not believe Britain is a “a post-racial society” and that “overt and outright racism persists in the UK”, in particular online.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...Accessible.pdf

‘Yes Gareth said most were not from this country, so a tiny number as in every country.’

…please don’t be so ironic as to quote ‘misinformation’ to anyone …

…the government and society can keep on looking elsewhere and not address the ugly head of racism within us…or it can look it in the face and address it where it’s able to…