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22-10-2021, 05:13 PM | #51 | ||
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I was actually wondering if it could be a gun duel scene - as the main character firing directly towards camera is sort of a “classic shot” in that type of western scene. |
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22-10-2021, 05:16 PM | #52 | ||
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A blank at point blank range is likely to cause serious injury or death even with no projectile at all. At that range the muzzle flash itself (hot gas expelled from the gun barrel) is enough to penetrate and kill you. |
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22-10-2021, 05:19 PM | #53 | ||
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Has to have been debris in the gun then. I think it seems like this is maybe more common with revolver-type weapons? That’s what they’d be using in a Western; and is also the type of gun that killed Brandon Lee. I think maybe because they function in a relatively “simple” way. More modern-style guns would be more likely to jam than misfire if there was debris in them. |
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22-10-2021, 05:50 PM | #54 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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Anyway however it happened it’s a tragedy for all involved
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22-10-2021, 06:20 PM | #55 | |||
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Interesting stat
Brandon Lee's funeral was on Alec Baldwin's birthday. It doesn't mean anything, it's just an interesting stat. |
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22-10-2021, 06:24 PM | #56 | |||
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22-10-2021, 10:39 PM | #57 | |||
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22-10-2021, 10:59 PM | #58 | |||
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But everyones not picked up on that yet |
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23-10-2021, 01:01 AM | #59 | |||
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23-10-2021, 01:02 AM | #60 | |||
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23-10-2021, 10:03 AM | #61 | |||
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the responsibility is with the person who shoots the gun, not the person that handed him it. He is obviously going for the, it wasnt my fault defence
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23-10-2021, 10:27 AM | #62 | |||
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Really though? I wouldn't have thought so, he's trusting the people who deal with the guns
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23-10-2021, 10:36 AM | #63 | ||
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Another example would be, if a stuntperson pushes another off a high fall and they're supposed to land safely on an air bag below - but the stunt handlers ****ed up and it's faulty or in the wrong place and they die or are severely injured - the other stuntperson who pushed them off the ledge is not guilty of murder or manslaughter but the people who set up the equipment might be guilty of criminal negligence. Last edited by Toy Soldier; 23-10-2021 at 10:39 AM. |
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23-10-2021, 11:54 AM | #64 | |||
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i would disagree with that. It is still the responsibility of the stunt man in your example to make sure that everything is in order, you never rely on other people in any safety issue, you always take your own responsibility
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23-10-2021, 12:09 PM | #65 | ||
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The press are going to hound this guy to death and then say its a huge shock and such a shame as it was clearly eating him up inside and he should have been left alone as it was obviously not on purpose. Can see it coming. I ****ing hope I am wrong but what a messed up situation..
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23-10-2021, 01:07 PM | #66 | |||
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I read the gun was given to him by a director who believed it to be unloaded shouting out 'cold' gun...meaning safe and unloaded. The chief armourer on set is a young lady who was responsible for checking the firearms. As an actor if your director hands you a gun he claims is unloaded you are going to believe him.. Last edited by rusticgal; 23-10-2021 at 01:08 PM. |
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23-10-2021, 01:15 PM | #67 | |||
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23-10-2021, 02:26 PM | #68 | |||
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I wouldnt say a chief Amourer is a junior person? He is there to do a job and getting paid to do a job properly. |
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23-10-2021, 02:36 PM | #69 | |||
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23-10-2021, 02:39 PM | #70 | ||
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I just don’t think the same would apply on a film set - there are people whose entire job is ensuring stunt and equipment safety, and not all actors being asked to be in a scene involving firearms are going to have much (or sometimes, any) real experience in handling them and will purely be following direction. Also, it’s not particularly easy for an inexperienced person to tell the difference between a blank and live round, nor to know if the gun is properly cleaned and maintained. You’re essentially saying that it should be the actors responsibility to ensure the weapon is in good order and load it themselves, instead of people with extensive firearms handling experience. That would almost certainly result in FAR more accidents. When you consider how many hours of film/television are filmed every year using things like guns and explosives, fatal accidents are actually extremely rare. I can see that changing pretty quickly if all of a sudden Scarlett Johansson is loading and maintaining her own Glock 26. |
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23-10-2021, 02:47 PM | #71 | |||
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['I wasn't sure if I was ready': The 24-year-old armorer
who had doubts before being put in charge of guns on Alec Baldwin film set where he shot cinematographer dead - after some crew walked out over safety Armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed and assistant director Dave Halls were named in search warrant on Friday Gutierrez-Reed, 24, laid out three guns, and Halls picked up a Colt pistol and handed it to Baldwin 'Cold gun!' shouted Halls, a veteran assistant director who worked on Fargo and The Matrix Reloaded When Baldwin pulled the trigger, a bullet was fired, killing the cinematographer and injuring the director Gutierrez-Reed is the daughter of legendary Hollywood armorer Thell Reed who trained her from a young age She recently served as head armorer on a film for the first time, on The Old Way, starring Nicolas Cage In a podcast interview after filming ended, she said she wasn't sure if she was ready to be a head armorer Meanwhile, troubling reports highlight safety concerns on the set of Baldwin's Western film, Rust Production crew on the set of Rust walked out on Thursday morning in a row over safety and long hours On Thursday, when they arrived to pack up, they found a team of non-union workers waiting to replace them Halyna Hutchins decided to stay on the set and film with Alec Baldwin and the film director Joel Souza She had been advocating on behalf of her team for better working conditions, but was killed by the bullet] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dwin-film.html Not good on that film set before the Death. Having to bring in, Non Union Workers. I wonder if this film will now be completed ? Last edited by arista; 23-10-2021 at 02:48 PM. |
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23-10-2021, 02:50 PM | #72 | |||
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[Workers had been protesting over the
fact production wouldn't pay for them to stay in hotels and motels in Sante Fe, instead forcing them to drive an hour to Albuquerque] |
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23-10-2021, 04:13 PM | #73 | |||
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Its being called a Low Budget Western.
Meaning Cut Backs can effect the gear. |
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23-10-2021, 10:27 PM | #74 | |||
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23-10-2021, 10:47 PM | #75 | |||
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The responsibility lies with them over Alec imo.
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