[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

Again, it's opinion because even he, with his great intelligence, can only guess.

scientific fact is not opinion



If you get your head chopped off by a samurai sword you will be dead

fact

that aint no opinion

when you all off a ladder you hit the ground hard

Gravity isnt an opinion

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

scientific fact is not opinion



If you get your head chopped off by a samurai sword you will be dead

fact

that aint no opinion

when you all off a ladder you hit the ground hard

Gravity isnt an opinion

DeGrasse Tyson does not have all the answers. Being a scientist doesn't give you any more insight.

I don't know why it's so important to people who don't believe in any kind of afterlife to try and convince others. With no disrespect to you, LT, it is the same people who don't understand faith and refuse to entertain others' beliefs in God.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

DeGrasse Tyson does not have all the answers. Being a scientist doesn't give you any more insight.

I don't know why it's so important to people who don't believe in any kind of afterlife to try and convince others. With no disrespect to you, LT, it is the same people who don't understand faith and refuse to entertain others' beliefs in God.

As long as religion is kept away from education and politics people can believe what they like

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Livia

DeGrasse Tyson does not have all the answers. Being a scientist doesn't give you any more insight.

I don't know why it's so important to people who don't believe in any kind of afterlife to try and convince others. With no disrespect to you, LT, it is the same people who don't understand faith and refuse to entertain others' beliefs in God.

Agreed on all points.

[Parmy]

I think I nailed it in the op.

[Crimson Dynamo]

only 4 days till afterlife 3

[Crimson Dynamo]

the only real afterlife is the children you leave behind

I often wonder what aspects of say my great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather's personality was instilled in me?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the only real afterlife is the children you leave behind

I often wonder what aspects of say my great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather's personality was instilled in me?

The fashion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The fashion.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the only real afterlife is the children you leave behind

I often wonder what aspects of say my great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather's personality was instilled in me?

His eye for a bargain

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the only real afterlife is the children you leave behind

I often wonder what aspects of say my great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather's personality was instilled in me?

he was that guy always talking about the weather

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he was that guy always talking about the weather

Telling everyone its to warm for the candles.

[Parmy]

If you could spend a week after dying doing one of these 2 things..which one would you pick..


A. Being a fly on the wall for a week somewhere in the future.

B. Being a fly on the wall for a week somewhere in the past.

[Redway]

To answer the title question: it means a lot to me. A hell of a lot.

[Glenn.]

It’s a fairytale we tell ourselves to make us feel better about dying. Simple as really.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It’s a fairytale we tell ourselves to make us feel better about dying. Simple as really.

That’s coming from a purely contemporary British lens. I don’t think you have the cultural seasoning to understand the afterlife in a deeper sense because it doesn’t tally up with your experiences but that approach doesn’t hold space for other people’s experiences.

“Vindaloo, jollof rice and chow mein are crap because I’m used to mushy peas and fried cod alone and anything that doesn’t resonate with my barely-salted tastebuds might as well not exist.”

Said anecdote applies here. If you had more Jewish, black and Asian friends (or people with more psychedelic/spiritual edge wherever they’re from) your experiences would be very different.

“Simple as really.”

[Redway]

Your lay British chap is the most spiritually unseasoned and empty person in the world. It’s fun watching said folk justify their robotic disinterest in spiritual matters with science (science that can’t even invent time travel or unveil all the intricate wonders of the solar system in its fullest just yet).

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Redway

That’s coming from a purely contemporary British lens. I don’t think you have the cultural seasoning to understand the afterlife in a deeper sense because it doesn’t tally up with your experiences but that approach doesn’t hold space for other people’s experiences.

“Vindaloo, jollof rice and chow mein are crap because I’m used to mushy peas and fried cod alone and anything that doesn’t resonate with my barely-salted tastebuds might as well not exist.”

Said anecdote applies here. If you had more Jewish, black and Asian friends (or people with more psychedelic/spiritual edge wherever they’re from) your experiences would be very different.

“Simple as really.”

Carry on talking to the man in sky Redway he will listen to your magical stories.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Carry on talking to the man in sky Redway he will listen to your magical stories.

You’re from a completely different world so it’s whatever at this point. Not really arsed. Just know that your robotic approach doesn’t wash with half of the world.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Redway

You’re from a completely different world so it’s whatever at this point. Not really arsed. Just know that your robotic approach doesn’t wash with half of the world.

Right back at ya

[user104658]

I think it's fair enough to say that "we don't really know much about anything for sure". That I can get on board with. However, it's the "In a universe of infinite possibility, with no evidence nor any real reasoning, I believe that *I* (and those who believe as I do) happen to have stumbled upon the correct answer".

The likelihood of anything that anyone believes even resembling any sort of obective truth is infinitesimally small.

[Glenn.]

I wasn’t going to go down that route but you seem to be as ignorant to my beliefs as I am to yours. Let’s just agree to disagree

[Glenn.]

Imagine pushing religion in 2022

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Imagine pushing religion in 2022

Imagine being dismissive of people’s individual beliefs (some of which are deeply rooted in seasoned culture) in 2022.

Agents of white male supremacy are the funniest still. And I’m nearly three-quarters white myself. I’m only a little mixed as far as my direct gene pool goes but that drop of seasoning I have is enough to know that culture, spirituality and corresponding beliefs in the afterlife are deeply intertwined in a way that’s deserving of nothing other than respect. As a pure chips-and-mushy-peas dude you have no idea of the rich cultural life that half the world is privy to (and that even the West was until fairly recently).

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Redway

Imagine being dismissive of people’s individual beliefs (some of which are deeply rooted in seasoned culture) in 2022.

Agents of white male supremacy are the funniest still. And I’m nearly three-quarters white myself. I’m only a little mixed as far as my direct gene pool goes but that drop of seasoning I have is enough to know that culture, spirituality and corresponding beliefs in the afterlife are deeply intertwined in a way that’s deserving of nothing other than respect. As a pure chips-and-mushy-peas dude you have no idea of the rich cultural life that half the world is privy to (and that even the West was until fairly recently).

But you’re being as equally dismissive of peoples views…