[AnnieK]

Kids won't ask why their cartoons are suddenly woke....the kids themselves are far more aware than that. I've just googled it and this show is particularly aimed at kids aged 10 and older (although younger kids will be watching im sure). Kids at 10 will have had the mandatory sex education in school and be aware of periods and trans issues etc. But yeah, agree with Thomas, if you're not happy with your kids watching shows that may or may not be appropriate, watch it with them or switch off the tv and go out and do something else.
The fact is, there are transmen around who do need to buy sanitary products so its not like it doesn't happen.

[jet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The fact is, there are transmen around who do need to buy sanitary products so its not like it doesn't happen.

Well, as adults we know that. I think you are missing my point completely (if you read my post that is)

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by jet

Well, as adults we know that. I think you are missing my point completely (if you read my post that is)

My reply was at Parms comments about woke cartoons really but I had read your post. I just don't understand what the issue is.

[jet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

My reply was at Parms comments about woke cartoons really but I had read your post. I just don't understand what the issue is.

It's a misleading scene in a children's cartoon. Young boys may think they will get periods and not all will ask their parents about that. It could even lead to them being bullied for being 'stupid' by more aware peers.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by jet

It's a misleading scene in a children's cartoon. Young boys may think they will get periods and not all will ask their parents about that. It could even lead to them being bullied for being 'stupid' by more aware peers.

There's a lot of hypotheticals there.

The key to tolerance and understanding is education. Like it or not the TV plays a part in educating a lot of kids and these are very real issues in today's society and kids need to be aware of trans issues in order to promote a more accepting society

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Kids won't ask why their cartoons are suddenly woke....the kids themselves are far more aware than that. I've just googled it and this show is particularly aimed at kids aged 10 and older (although younger kids will be watching im sure). Kids at 10 will have had the mandatory sex education in school and be aware of periods and trans issues etc. But yeah, agree with Thomas, if you're not happy with your kids watching shows that may or may not be appropriate, watch it with them or switch off the tv and go out and do something else.
The fact is, there are transmen around who do need to buy sanitary products so its not like it doesn't happen.

What do they use them for?

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What do they use them for?

Ermmm.... They may still have a womb.

They might have a weak bladder... They might have prostate issues, they might have loose bowels, they might suffer with anxiety which could cause them to wet themselves, they might be buying them for someone else etc etc

[jet]

I'm reminded of the reason I don't normally participate in these sort of discussions (or political ones etc.)
You have an opinion on one aspect alone (like the scene I see as misleading in this case) and you get lectures on how your opinion is completely wrong and what you should be focusing on instead and you must be anti - trans and anti - progressive yadda yadda yadda.
People can't have discussions anymore without OTT assumptions being thrown around.
Can't be arsed.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jet

I'm reminded of the reason I don't normally participate in these sort of discussions (or political ones etc.)
You have an opinion on one aspect alone (like the scene I see as misleading in this case) and you get lectures on how your opinion is completely wrong and what you should be focusing on instead and you must be anti - trans and anti - progressive yadda yadda yadda.
People can't have discussions anymore without OTT assumptions being thrown around.
Can't be arsed.

Which is why I dont bother on these issues. People get defensive and name call and cannot discuss respectfully.
....and Jet your point was completely valid and I totally agree. Young children today...let them be children...it must be so confusing for them.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jet

I'm reminded of the reason I don't normally participate in these sort of discussions (or political ones etc.)
You have an opinion on one aspect alone (like the scene I see as misleading in this case) and you get lectures on how your opinion is completely wrong and what you should be focusing on instead and you must be anti - trans and anti - progressive yadda yadda yadda.
People can't have discussions anymore without OTT assumptions being thrown around.
Can't be arsed.

Tbf it's a debates section of the Forum so people are gonna disagree with you on topics, it's natural with these threads.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What do they use them for?

The same reason women use them. If they are pre-op and haven't had hormone treatment to stop their periods, they will still bleed monthly. What should they do then? Not use anything? Shove a load of tissue in their pants? Or buy the products that are for periods?

[thesheriff443]

Come on Anniek your boy is 14, he should be watching what he wants so he is prepared for life.
Who gives these people the rights to put controversial material in cartoons

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Come on Anniek your boy is 14, he should be watching what he wants so he is prepared for life.
Who gives these people the rights to put controversial material in cartoons

No he isn't, he's 11 and still in primary school

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

No he isn't, he's 11 and still in primary school

Again in this thread I Stand corrected
My view is that’s it’s up to the parents to decide what their children watch and are taught.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Again in this thread I Stand corrected
My view is that’s it’s up to the parents to decide what their children watch and are taught.

I quite agree with that. I don't agree that this type of material shouldn't be out there so parents can make that decision. If mine was watching something I don't think is appropriate I make him turn it off, I don't kick up a fuss as I know sone parent's will be happy with their kids watching it

[Liam-]

Hiding certain real world aspect of life away from children as they’re entering their tween years, going into being teenagers isn’t protecting them, it’s making them completely ignorant and naive to things that they’re going to need to talk about, the way people are talking about this one scene as if either periods should be one big dirty secret that nobody should talk about, or that trans people shouldn’t exist in just general life and conversations, if you want kids to grow up being just as ignorant as their parents, just say that y’know, let’s not pretend that a less than 5 minute scene in a tv show is going to radically alter the minds of vulnerable children, it’s becoming ****ing pantomime for the purposefully ignorant

[Liam-]

In the movie in which this health robot is from, one of the characters died a horrible, on screen death in a fire/explosion, but no we can’t have children hearing about periods or seeing trans people, that’s too emotionally challenging!

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Liam-

In the movie in which this health robot is from, one of the characters died a horrible, on screen death in a fire/explosion, but no we can’t have children hearing about periods or seeing trans people, that’s too emotionally challenging!

Don't talk sense

Apparently children seeing this though is going to cause them damage because it's misleading.

What a joke. We really are going backwards. No wonder there's issues in today's youth and adults. People just don't want to speak about the elephant in the room and we unnecessarily shield children from reality.... This in turn leads to a society in which things are less accepted and there is prejudice and deragatory outlooks

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Crimson Dynamo]

That we are even talking about Disney and politics in the same breath suggests
that damage has already been done. Disney’s brand has always rested on its
universality. When people watch Encanto or visit Disney World, it’s not because
they want to signal something about their political identity but because they
want to laugh, sigh, scream or weep. Disney is not meant to be a participant in
the culture wars; it is meant to be a refuge from them.



https://www.newstatesman.com/quickfi...oke-capitalism

[Liam-]

Sorry, but if an adult refuses to watch a show because it talks about periods for a little bit then they just need to grow up

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Sorry, but if an adult refuses to watch a show because it talks about periods for a little bit then they just need to grow up

Let's be honest would anyone on here find an episode about periods entertaining? Don't forget TV Shows are suppose to entertain first and foremost before anything else, so would you want to watch an episode about someone buying sanitary products? That's not immature to say that's an extremely boring concept for an episode.

Everyone is talking about the Trans character, but ignoring that Disney thinks that buying sanitary products is an entertaining idea for an episode.

To me personally I wouldn't ban the episode like some people are suggesting as I don't support censorship, but I do question why Disney thought that someone buying sanitary products for an episode is entertaining.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Let's be honest would anyone on here find an episode about periods entertaining? Don't forget TV Shows are suppose to entertain first and foremost before anything else, so would you want to watch an episode about someone buying sanitary products? That's not immature to say that's an extremely boring concept for an episode.

Everyone is talking about the Trans character, but ignoring that Disney thinks that buying sanitary products is an entertaining idea for an episode.

To me personally I wouldn't ban the episode like some people are suggesting as I don't support censorship, but I do question why Disney thought that someone buying sanitary products for an episode is entertaining.

The entire episode obviously isn’t about buying pads or tampons, it’s a tiny scene in a full episode and if the idea of watching a scene like that puts someone off of watching something then they seriously have issues

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The entire episode obviously isn’t about buying pads or tampons, it’s a tiny scene in a full episode and if the idea of watching a scene like that puts someone off of watching something then they seriously have issues

It's a really boring sounding scene as well.

Admittedly though less intimidating than an entire episode like our beloved Netflix would go for.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Let's be honest would anyone on here find an episode about periods entertaining? Don't forget TV Shows are suppose to entertain first and foremost before anything else, so would you want to watch an episode about someone buying sanitary products? That's not immature to say that's an extremely boring concept for an episode.

Everyone is talking about the Trans character, but ignoring that Disney thinks that buying sanitary products is an entertaining idea for an episode.

To me personally I wouldn't ban the episode like some people are suggesting as I don't support censorship, but I do question why Disney thought that someone buying sanitary products for an episode is entertaining.

Everyone is focusing on the trans character, which you admit, but then ignore that there were 4 other people on that conversation making recommendations.

I haven't seen the whole episode, but I very highly doubt it was a whole episode on periods. It just happened to contain a segment that did.

How you can miss the point that this isn't aimed at adults so why would they find it entertaining? It's for children and it's a 1 minute clip