[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

An awful lot of manic scrambling to insist that climate change isn't real . Also loving the ever-prevailing Trump logic of: "Well I looked out my window and didn't see even ONE climate change, therefore, it does not exist!!"

I mean I'm not a climate-fapper or anything, I've more or less accepted that the planet is screwed and thus couldn't give a stuff about my carbon footprint or whatever, live as comfortably as possible for the little time humanity has left I say, but pretending that nothing is happening is a bit pointless surely!

The world isn't going to end within our lifetimes and we all just need to selfishly admit that that's all we really care about.

climate change has always happened

we had an ice age 10k years ago

warming and cooling has always happened on roughly 100,000-year cycles for at least the last 1 million years.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

climate change has always happened

we had an ice age 10k years ago

warming and cooling has always happened on roughly 100,000-year cycles for at least the last 1 million years.

Overwhelming scientific consensus is that human activity is accelerating climate change and disrupting the normal cycles. Only some random hacks dispute this.

The idea that all of these academics and scientists are part of a grand global conspiracy and/or in the pockets of [wherever the supposed financial gain is today] is just silly. Silly, far fetched nonsense.

"Hunter Biden's laptop that contains an advanced AI that controls the US government is faking climate change because Rishi Sunak wants to put tax up by 2p in the pounds or something".

Drives me nuts.

If someone fancies posing an actual believable reason that there would be a grand global conspiracy to fake it then I'm willing to listen. Currently... It just doesn't make sense. So as long as 90+% of professionals in the field are saying "these climate fluctuations are outwith what's normal and here's how human industrial activity is affecting it"... I'm going to believe it's that simple. And not believe that they're all government shills. Which is daft. And I've only ever heard it being said by laypeople with no actual expertise.


The only thing I think is of note, is that it is clearly the widescale activity of huge manufacturing economies and other large scale things that are quite clearly the major causes... Things that us average Joe's can do absolutely nothing about. The idea that someone cycling to work or doing a bit of lift-sharing is going to make any difference at all vs. a BRIC factory churning away 24/7 is also daft.

So I'm not actually saying that people should believe it with a view to actually doing anything about it. Just that it's better to accept reality than delude oneself with more comfortable lies. "Everything it's fine, it's just the tax man wanting a wee bit more" must be a nice headspace to exist in. "We broke the planet, wups!" is a harder sell .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

An awful lot of manic scrambling to insist that climate change isn't real . Also loving the ever-prevailing Trump logic of: "Well I looked out my window and didn't see even ONE climate change, therefore, it does not exist!!"

I mean I'm not a climate-fapper or anything, I've more or less accepted that the planet is screwed and thus couldn't give a stuff about my carbon footprint or whatever, live as comfortably as possible for the little time humanity has left I say, but pretending that nothing is happening is a bit pointless surely!

The world isn't going to end within our lifetimes and we all just need to selfishly admit that that's all we really care about.

it is the over egging that gets on my nerves, if you look at a map of Spain on w weather channel every province is deep red when its just normal summer temps in many of the coastal areas, naturally the cities get hot which is why the Spanish swarm to the coast from Madrid etc in the summer and many have holiday homes on the coast

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

it is the over egging that gets on my nerves, if you look at a map of Spain on w weather channel every province is deep red when its just normal summer temps in many of the coastal areas, naturally the cities get hot which is why the Spanish swarm to the coast from Madrid etc in the summer and many have holiday homes on the coast

also now naming a summer heatwave and using the name of a fictional 3 headed dog that guards the gates of hell

#agenda

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Crimson Dynamo]

[bots]

Lassie has got a lot to answer for

[Crimson Dynamo]

44C in Turkey at mo but then anyone who lived thru the seventies knows that every summer some one would come back from Turkey saying "it wiz 120 F in the shade every day" regular as clockwork

[Zizu]

A company called Go To ( I think ) have been advertising all day on TalkSport .. package holidays to Greece !!!


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

A company called Go To ( I think ) have been advertising all day on TalkSport .. package holidays to Greece !!!


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Highest temp in Greece today 39C

Id imagine if you are Greek that is like 22C for us

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Highest temp in Greece today 39C

Id imagine if you are Greek that is like 22C for us

I thought the rest of Europe was blistering ??


I read we are gonna have a 9 week heat wave lasting until late September on the back of the above mentioned temps abroad ??


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I thought the rest of Europe was blistering ??


I read we are gonna have a 9 week heat wave lasting until late September on the back of the above mentioned temps abroad ??


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hogwash

id advise you never to get any meteorological information from any media source, be it newspaper, radio or TV and just use the Met Office website.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Highest temp in Greece today 39C

Id imagine if you are Greek that is like 22C for us

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[Crimson Dynamo]

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Do we always have to be the worst at everything?

[arista]

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

headline "Engulf Europe"

article "southern Europe"

reality - parts of southern europe

hyperbole, scaremongering, narrative

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

headline "Engulf Europe"

article "southern Europe"

reality - parts of southern europe

hyperbole, scaremongering, narrative

Its getting incredibly tiresome. Trigger words like 'extreme weather'...'unprecedented transition'...'The hottest month ever recorded' and your house is on fire!
and the global maps on MSM are painted fire red!

Then here comes carbon tax and what's the chance that 80% of the western world population will willingly pay this tax out of shear guilt at what THEY did to the planet.... Yep, feel guilty folks, YOU did this! Well, they can F-off, I'm not paying it!

[arista]

[bots]

The whole climate argument has been hijacked and politicised so whether it's real, over exaggerated or inconsequential, in the general scheme of things, is all largely now irrelevant. There will never be a consensus to take action and big business will continue to hijack it for exploitation of the masses.

The world is imploding on its own without even considering climate change. That is a far more immenent and ever present threat than anything else

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The whole climate argument has been hijacked and politicised so whether it's real, over exaggerated or inconsequential, in the general scheme of things, is all largely now irrelevant. There will never be a consensus to take action and big business will continue to hijack it for exploitation of the masses.

The world is imploding on its own without even considering climate change. That is a far more immenent and ever present threat than anything else

I mean i take it every single member of JSO has stopped flying.. oh wait they havent in fact the hag who invaded George Osbournes wedding is just back from Thailand

[Crimson Dynamo]

looking today if record max temperature for Europe is reached of 48.8C (119.8F) set in Sicily during a heatwave in August 2021.

[Oliver_W]

What we really need is for our leaders to jet in from all over the world, and take their multi-car cavalcades across the country to discuss the issue

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The heatwave in Southern Europe dominates
Wednesday's papers - with the Daily Mirror referring
to it as the "terrifying reality of today's climate crisis"
. Under the headline "Heatwave from hell", the paper
has a striking image of a child being carried away
from wildfires in Greece.]

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[For a second day running, the i has
a front page slot for the European heatwave.
Alongside a dramatic image of a firefighter
attempting to control wildfires,
the paper says Italian officials are warning
of a "near-record 47C forecast in
Sardinia" and there are new blazes
in Greece, Switzerland, Turkey and Spain.]