[Alf]

They were released after a few hours.

Back amongst us.

I saw a video of them in the early hours of this morning, claiming they're gonna be sueing the law.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Alf

They were released after a few hours.

Back amongst us.

I saw a video of them in the early hours of this morning, claiming they're gonna be sueing the law.

This is a picture and story of the video I saw this morning.

My assumption is the guy on your right as you look at the picture is the victim. The guy on your left is his innocent friend. The guy in the middle is the lawyer.

The lawyer will be taking them to hospital as soon as they put this message out.

[AnnieK]

It seems ridiculously excessive from the clip. Especially with the one punch kills cases recently. A kick to the head and a stamp of the head of anyone is excessive in any situation and could have killed the guy on the floor.

Obviously, there is no context and we have no idea of what went on to escalate it to that but it seems like a complete loss of control from the officer.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

It seems ridiculously excessive from the clip. Especially with the one punch kills cases recently. A kick to the head and a stamp of the head of anyone is excessive in any situation and could have killed the guy on the floor.

Obviously, there is no context and we have no idea of what went on to escalate it to that but it seems like a complete loss of control from the officer.

Reading online comments its clear that our society in general simply hate the police - many online suggested this attack took place in front of his wife and children and the attack was unprovoked .. totally fabulous nonsense

Thats the type of bollox that spreads even more hatred

I will admit it doesn’t look good on the face of it though the footage I saw was inconclusive and blurry - he may have kicked and then stood on the attacker’s hand holding a knife or gun …


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[Alf]

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Alf

Can anyone explain to me who this "we" are that this guy is talking about here? Because I just don't know.

[Alf]

Youtube video

[Beso]

For @Zizu..

Better quality for you.

https://youtu.be/HUj8dVZkhCU?si=rg-VNTnAWLmtsItI

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

For @Zizu..

Better quality for you.

https://youtu.be/HUj8dVZkhCU?si=rg-VNTnAWLmtsItI

Ta

Yeah looks bad .. painful but neither were life threatening.. thats just scaremongering


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[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Ta

Yeah looks bad .. painful but neither were life threatening.. thats just scaremongering


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Any blow to the head, however minor can lead to death or serious injury, however innocuous

[Alf]

This is Manchester. Can't we just invite Miley Cyrus over and put on a concert with a message of "Don't look back in anger?" That seemed to bring peace when children were blown up to death at at a pop concert in Manchester.

[Liam-]

If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevant

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevant

Exactly. What he actually did was martyr the guy who was probably behaving very very badly beforehand. If that guy doesn't get punished/dealt with by the law as harshly as he should it will most likely be because of that cops actions.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly. What he actually did was martyr the guy who was probably behaving very very badly beforehand. If that guy doesn't get punished/dealt with by the law as harshly as he should it will most likely be because of that cops actions.

Yeah I can see the guy getting let off now ,it will probably get brushed off him assaulting a cop due to the other cop's actions unfortunately.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevant

Yeah, we should just forget all about what was happening leading up to this and never speak of it again.

That way, at least we personally won't be racists , and that's the main thing.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevant

No they are not….lets see what behaviour he committed in front of his family and judge him on that.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

No they are not….lets see what behaviour he committed in front of his family and judge him on that.

Whatever he did, does not take away a cop trying to stamp his head through the floor, when he was tased and not resisting

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Whatever he did, does not take away a cop trying to stamp his head through the floor, when he was tased and not resisting

Slight exaggeration


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[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Whatever he did, does not take away a cop trying to stamp his head through the floor, when he was tased and not resisting

I agree it’s wrong….but does that make it ok to attack 3 policewomen with all 3 ending up in hospital..1 with a broken nose?…

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I agree it’s wrong….but does that make it ok to attack 3 policewomen with all 3 ending up in hospital..1 with a broken nose?…

Absolutely not, but that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable, or justifiable to stamp on the head of somebody, laying prone and not resisting, so whatever happened before, is entirely irrelevant to this officers gross assault

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I agree it’s wrong….but does that make it ok to attack 3 policewomen with all 3 ending up in hospital..1 with a broken nose?…

Guess he was a tough guy when attacking women

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If what he did is inexcusable, which it is, the context of what was happening before his actions are completely irrelevant

I wouldn't say completely irrelevant because context matters in most crimes.

For example if a Wife killed her Husband because he was physically abusing her, I don't believe that the law should be judging her by the same standard as a cold blooded killer that finds killing fun.

Ultimately he does have to be punished (because obviously we can't have Police Officers losing control) but the context here is possibly explaining away why he did what he did, and if found to be true it also makes him a more sympathetic figure than the Officer that killed Sarah Everard for example.

[Zizu]

Andy Burnham has just said

“ this is not a clear cut incident and we need to remain calm ! “


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[Zizu]

Interestingly in the light of Burnham’s comments TalkSport are now saying “ an officer was shown kicking a man at Manchester airport “ as opposed to “ a police officer was shown kicking and stamping on a man’s head”


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Interestingly in the light of Burnham’s comments TalkSport are now saying “ an officer was shown kicking a man at Manchester airport “ as opposed to “ a police officer was shown kicking and stamping on a man’s head”


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Why is TalkSport talking about a crime in Manchester?

The clue is kind of in the Station's name on what they should be discussing.