[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Exactly and I can't even stand Ali.

The Ryan spoon comment, just shows you're not allowed to say anything these days. I'll be honest ...I didn't even see her t-shirt as anything political/ controversial ,it just looked like a watermelon,I've seen a ton of watermelon design in clothing which are innocent enough. But the problem now is ...is wearing a watermelon now seen as some secret political statement? .

In Ali's case she's known to do this ...as she will likely be very 'pro Palestine' , but maybe the outrage wouldn't have been the same if another housemate wore that same t-shirt.

BB producer's removing the episode from ITVX was OTT .

…tbf, though …it isn’t a ‘secret’ political statement even though many of us might not have been aware of it…Im not commenting on her own views with regard to the subject …only that if I start to type in ‘watermelon t shirt…’…the search immediately connects Palestine …

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…tbf, though …it isn’t a ‘secret’ political statement even though many of us might not have been aware of it…Im not commenting on her own views with regard to the subject …only that if I start to type in ‘watermelon t shirt…’…the search immediately connects Palestine …

I honestly did not know about the politics connotations / symbolism,as I've seen so many casual watermelon designs on everything & not just t-shirts,but kids stuff . It was something I never gave a thought to , It just passively went by me , like a SpongeBob squepants PJ
set or something.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I honestly did not know about the politics connotations / symbolism,as I've seen so many casual watermelon designs on everything & not just t-shirts,but kids stuff . It was something I never gave a thought to , It just passively went by me , like a SpongeBob squepants PJ
set or something.

…I guess for anyone who was aware of a connection with watermelon then they may be drawn to it in terms of the shape as well and realised immediately…but not so for anyone who wasn’t aware because all we would see is a watermelon on a t shirt which in itself has no political slant at all…it’s the shape that’s the indicator, isn’t it…

[BBUKAUSFAN]

So you are all here for Israel bombing innocent people in Gaza?
Noted.

Ali the queen you are.

[vesavius]

I am just amazed at the range of performative protest tee shirts this woman has. She is the type of superficial Guardian reading dupe that changes her facebook profile every month to the current thing in order to signal to her chums what a great person she is.

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[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I am just amazed at the range of performative protest tee shirts this woman has. She is the type of superficial Guardian reading idiot that changes her facebook profile every month to the current thing in order to signal to her chums what a great person she is.

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Her only other t-shirt with a message was supporting transgender people, I don't see how that makes her look performative. She wants to be on the correct side of history.

[Cherie]

I didn't think the issue was the melon itself but that it was done as a map of Israel which would signify Israel being wiped out, look if Jews found it anti semetic who are we to judge, if I saw something that as anti Irish I would imagine many people who are not Irish would not have an issue with it

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I didn't think the issue was the melon itself but that it was done as a map of Israel which would signify Israel being wiped out, look if Jews found it anti semetic who are we to judge, if I saw something that as anti Irish I would imagine many people who are not Irish would not have an issue with it

Controversially though (and I'm not just saying this to be nasty towards the Jewish) but every group/community it feels like is looking for any excuse to be offended by something these days.

This from Ali is pretty tame, especially compared to the Nazi & Hamas loving people that are in our society.

[Ammi]

…apparently this garnered controversy not long ago, I’m not sure if that was when the meaning became more known …/…I don’t follow social media or celebrity stuff so I wasn’t familiar with this when it gained media attention…

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Controversially though (and I'm not just saying this to be nasty towards the Jewish) but every group/community it feels like is looking for any excuse to be offended by something these days.

This from Ali is pretty tame, especially compared to the Nazi & Hamas loving people that are in our society.

weelll I think if you are sporting a tshirt that promotes a whole nation being wiped out then Jews have a right to be offended dont you think? if it were the other way round and she was wearing a tshirt that promoted Palestine being wiped out dont you think they would have a case to be offended? Many Israelis do not support Netanyahu they dont deserve to be wiped out?


Thats like saying during the Iraq war which most Britons didnt agree with that the UK should have been wiped out ...no?

[Nicky91]

LOL

some people are so easily triggered

[Beso]

Shes just your typical virtual signalling lefty.

[ebandit]

Originally Posted by Beso

Shes just your typical virtual signalling lefty.

if ali had any strength of conviction she woulda done a 'hanah' 'n replied sorry! BB i'm wearing the tee.........

self proclaimed 'activist' not aware of political message?

Mark L

[arista]

Remove the T-Shirt
from the show.


Problem Solved

[arista]

[The fruit is linked with Palestinian activism
because their colours - red, black, white and green - match
the colours of the Palestinian flag.]

[arista]

Ali is a Sneak

[Jessica.]

I don't know anyone who supports Palestine that wants to wipe out Israel, where are people getting that idea? We just want a ceasefire.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I don't know anyone who supports Palestine that wants to wipe out Israel, where are people getting that idea? We just want a ceasefire.

Loads support Palestine,


Ali took that T-Shirt in
knowing full well it is a Political
and illegal.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I don't know anyone who supports Palestine that wants to wipe out Israel, where are people getting that idea? We just want a ceasefire.

Maybe it's the chants of "from the river to the sea" at the protests, among other things?

Look, no one is saying all pro Palestine people are saying it, but let's not pretend that none are.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Maybe it's the chants of "from the ocean to the sea" at the protests, among other things?

Look, no one is saying all pro Palestine people are saying it, but let's not pretend that none are.

Palestine being free doesn't mean Israelis won't be, it's always been a place where many different peoples coexisted and it should be again.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Palestine being free doesn't mean Israelis won't be, it's always been a place where many different peoples coexisted and it should be again.

From the river to the sea explicitly means the erasure of the Israeli state.

Look, I have no skin in the fight there either way, my general view is get the kids out that are being used as human shields and let the two bronze age zealot cults have at it, but I do expect people to be honest when discussing it.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

From the river to the sea explicitly means the erasure of the Israeli state.

Look, I have no skin in the fight there either way, my general view is get the kids out that are being used as human shields and let the two bronze age zealot cults have at it, but I do expect people to be honest when discussing it.

Palestine has no weapons, food, resources, nothing, it's not an equal fight. People are eating tins of cat food.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I don't know anyone who supports Palestine that wants to wipe out Israel, where are people getting that idea? We just want a ceasefire.

It's the Hamas supporters that pretend to be Palestine supporters that some people are thinking of I believe.

Because unfortunately, Hamas has hijacked this conflict unfortunately, which doesn't help matters between the two countries.

[Kate!]

I fully believe Ali.

[Livia]

I suspect this tee shirt was worn with no political conviction at all. So many people making tenuous political statements on the Israel/Hamas conflict don't know the first thing about the conflict.