[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by vesavius

People out there acting like women can't ever be predators

Shhhhh only men are creeps remember , especially if they're called
' Marcello ' . Funny thing is Ali is actually older than Marcello aswell.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

People out there acting like women can't ever be predators

Of course they can but Ali doesn't come across that way with Lily, it seems a more protective maternal thing. I don't even like Ali but she's not come across in that way at all, Marcello has though

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bots

you don't act in a sexual way toward a very drunk girl nearly half your age.

Apparently some people,even some women think it's perfectly fine to do so unfortunately.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Apparently some people,even some women think it's perfectly fine to do so unfortunately.

Not ok, but he was very drunk as well. And she is an adult.

[Vanessa]

The way I see it they were both drunk and a bit flirty.
Like Emma said, they were just talking.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Not ok, but he was very drunk as well. And she is an adult.

…she’d still be an adult when she wasn’t drunk, though…there is always a time and place and when she was so visibly drunk that we saw with the phone call and that housemates had commented on of Lily specifically …so there was for sure a level discomfort for me in watching that…

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…she’d still be an adult when she wasn’t drunk, though…there is always a time and place and when she was so visibly drunk that we saw with the phone call and that housemates had commented on of Lily specifically …so there was for sure a level discomfort for me in watching that…

I get that, but I really don't think Marcello intentions were that sinister. I believe he's a decent guy.

[Ammi]

…I’m always a bit conflicted with Emma…yeah, there was just talk happening…(as well as stroking hair and licking an arm or whatever gesture…)…but Emma has displayed such a real enthusiasm and interest in Nathan and BP/showmance wise and almost an encouragement of ‘house romances’, maybe…

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bots

you don't act in a sexual way toward a very drunk girl nearly half your age.

It's not a good look, granted.

[smudgie]

It was fantastic.
The look on Nathan’s face, him telling the others, asking if they had kissed.
The pillock is worried it will all blow his fauxmance out of the water.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by smudgie

It was fantastic.
The look on Nathan’s face, him telling the others, asking if they had kissed.
The pillock is worried it will all blow his fauxmance out of the water.

Yes his reaction was interesting.
Nathan was one of my favourites but now I don't like him as much.

[Garfie]

To me this was just two drunken people behaving like drunken people do, and I personally feel reading any more into it seems s bit of an over-reaction. Lily drunkenly threw herself onto the bed in a flirty mood as she finds Marcello fanciable. He did nothing more than stroke her hair! He hardly touched her inappropriately. It was just flirty behaviour between two consenting adults, and I feel we need to remind ourselves that Lily is an adult, and not some underaged child. Had he touched her in a sexual manner then it would be a problem, but this is not what happened. They were in a room full of people, and Emma summed it up perfectly. In my experience, go to any pub or club on a weekend and people will be behaving in the same way. Who hasn’t had a drunken flirt that means nothing and leads to nothing?

I think it’s important to remember how producers like to cast housemates in particular roles, then broadcast anything that seems to support that. This year, Lily is the innocent naive child and Marcello is the villainous predator. In so many ways it is like a pantomime, and it’s easy to fall into the trap of accepting the narrative that producers want us to follow. However, I personally feel that their one-dimensional portrayal of housemates can make us forget that we see just minutes each day of each person, and therefore perhaps get a very skewed impression of who they truly are as people.

I don’t disagree that some of Marcello’s comments and behaviours have been questionable- I’ve made that point myself in previous posts - but on this occasion I don’t believe there was any sinister intention.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Garfie

To me this was just two drunken people behaving like drunken people do, and I personally feel reading any more into it seems s bit of an over-reaction. Lily drunkenly threw herself onto the bed in a flirty mood as she finds Marcello fanciable. He did nothing more than stroke her hair! He hardly touched her inappropriately. It was just flirty behaviour between two consenting adults, and I feel we need to remind ourselves that Lily is an adult, and not some underaged child. Had he touched her in a sexual manner then it would be a problem, but this is not what happened. They were in a room full of people, and Emma summed it up perfectly. In my experience, go to any pub or club on a weekend and people will be behaving in the same way. Who hasn’t had a drunken flirt that means nothing and leads to nothing?

I think it’s important to remember how producers like to cast housemates in particular roles, then broadcast anything that seems to support that. This year, Lily is the innocent naive child and Marcello is the villainous predator. In so many ways it is like a pantomime, and it’s easy to fall into the trap of accepting the narrative that producers want us to follow. However, I personally feel that their one-dimensional portrayal of housemates can make us forget that we see just minutes each day of each person, and therefore perhaps get a very skewed impression of who they truly are as people.

I don’t disagree that some of Marcello’s comments and behaviours have been questionable- I’ve made that point myself in previous posts - but on this occasion I don’t believe there was any sinister intention.

Yes it was two adults flirting.
People forget that Lily is NOT a child, but a grown adult.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes it was two adults flirting.
People forget that Lily is NOT a child, but a grown adult.

[ebandit]

.............give lily a break............she has not snogged anyone in ages.......................

Mark L

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by ebandit

.............give lily a break............she has not snogged anyone in ages.......................

Mark L