[Cherie]

Some towns in Ireland were without power for a week after Storm Eoghan dont think they got any compo

The Spanish PM says he does not know what has caused this?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Some towns in Ireland were without power for a week after Storm Eoghan dont think they got any compo

The Spanish PM says he does not know what has caused this?

I think by now, he does

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

I think by now, he does

He is holding an emergency meeting and still saying he doesn't know what caused it

[Crimson Dynamo]

REN said that as a result of extreme temperature variations in Spain, there were
"anomalous oscillations" in extremely high-voltage lines. REN said this is known as
"induced atmospheric variation," which in turn can lead to oscillations. This caused
synchronization failures between systems, leading to successive disturbances across the
European network, which is interconnected.

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Temperature variation in Spain today 10 C from hottest to coolest

this sounds like BS

(and why you would always keep actual cash handy)

[bots]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

REN said that as a result of extreme temperature variations in Spain, there were
"anomalous oscillations" in extremely high-voltage lines. REN said this is known as
"induced atmospheric variation," which in turn can lead to oscillations. This caused
synchronization failures between systems, leading to successive disturbances across the
European network, which is interconnected.

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Temperature variation in Spain today 10 C from hottest to coolest

this sounds like BS

(and why you would always keep actual cash handy)

it is BS, there is no way they could conclude an investigation on a power failure that affected the whole country on the same day it happened. Particularly when they are spouting bollocks about temperature gradients. Go to the beach on the costas and compare against Barcelona or any mountainous region and there are always large temperature gradients. Spain is a massive country

[arista]

From Ch4HDnews Live

Extreme Heat
It caused the Overhead Cables to Bounce
and because of that extreme danger
it shut down all power.

(California Fires had something like that)


This is why the UK is Crazy doing it Up High

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

From Ch4HDnews Live

Extreme Heat
It caused the Overhead Cables to Bounce
and because of that extreme danger
it shut down all power.

(California Fires had something like that)


This is why the UK is Crazy doing it Up High

But we don't have extreme heat here in the UK.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But we don't have extreme heat here in the UK.

Or anywhere

[bots]

the advantage of overhead cables is that they are easier to maintain and quicker to repair. It's always about trade offs

[arista]

Originally Posted by bots

the advantage of overhead cables is that they are easier to maintain and quicker to repair. It's always about trade offs

Better underground
as in Pipes they are safer

[Jessica.]

We've got power now, it was off for 9 hours but it's likely to be unstable. Also had no network on my phone for five hours.

[Maru]

We know a little bit about extended power outages in our area, unfortunately. We were out for 5 days the last time due to the hurricane and several months before that we were out from the Derecho storm. Lots of spoiled food, but we have a generator now because you can't depend on estimates by utilities. They are under pressure to give false hope to people suffering without it in a hot climate and people die waiting for power they think is about to be switched on because neighbors around them have power, etc... it's not fun.

[Maru]

Last June after Beryl came through, we all lost power that morning. It got into the 90s in the house (32C+) and humidity was high the last time... even if you can get power somehow to run fans, there's only so much you can do. I pushed my car's alternator over the edge running on idle because we needed air conditioning. It would just shut off. Anyway, miraculously it made it to the shop with lights going on and off and radio acting crazy, but we had to wait until shop had power to get it in. One of the shocks in my car was looking like it was starting to go around the same time so I avoiding driving around with it after noticing. All normal things to happen, but just very bad timing with a hurricane.

So I understand what some of what people are going through. We were lucky in many respects. We have gas in our home so we can still cook and get hot water. We could at least get ice and such from the shops as we knew where to look. A lot of people couldn't even get that. We had very unstable mobile connection as the towers didn't have full power either, so they were running on maintenance. I could get a few pages to load every 15 minutes or so and the door to load would shut. Texts were very hit and miss. When you're sitting around sweating, trust me, those 15 minutes where we could refresh our pages and find something else to focus on helped to keep sanity.

We shouldn't have lost power to so many people in a Category 1, so ever since the utility company has been running around scrambling to do repairs.. the State is threatening to force them to sell off if they don't get the grid fixed up and vegetation management put back in order. Anyway, most of us on our block have learned not to trust the utility management companies and so myself and our surrounding neighbors have generators... it's very loud when power is out with everyone running them, but at least we will have fans and cold food, ice... sleep is extremely difficult when it is hot.

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

BBC News Text:
["Net zero blamed for blackout chaos"
reads the Daily Telegraph's main headline,
saying 53% of Spain's energy was being
supplied by solar before the power cuts.
"Starmer and EU to sign anti-Trump pact
in releationship reset" the paper also reports.]

[Maru]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes, it will cost more
to go underground.

Sealed pipes away from any
Sun damage on them.
Not good in a Flood Plain.

To avoid this Portugal Horror


Maru, imagine being Dumped in
In the Middle of nowhere,
in that heat.
As the Train needed the Electric Power

Yes, we're a car nation, so the problem is always going to be gas stations are empty from people filling up their vehicles and also their generators. Our generator also takes propane so would have to worry about finding this also. It also covers natural gas, but then it's $100-$150/day for whole house from what I've heard from neighbors and definitely the most expensive option... so last resort...

Originally Posted by arista

BBC News Text:
["Net zero blamed for blackout chaos"
reads the Daily Telegraph's main headline,
saying 53% of Spain's energy was being
supplied by solar before the power cuts.
"Starmer and EU to sign anti-Trump pact
in releationship reset" the paper also reports.]

They blamed eco power here during the Texas grid failure, but then it's reported that it was eco power that was overperforming and helping it to not fall apart while other methods went offline or were reconnecting generation. But it's diversified green energy: windmills, battery storage, solar, etc... 53% dependency is very high for just solar.

[arista]

[arista]

BBC News Text:
["Bad hols vibes," writes the Daily Star as it
says "Portugal blames Spain" for the blackouts.]

[arista]

GMBHD itv Live

Spain is saying it was a France Connection
That started this.

[Ammi]

…even if/when beginning in France, it doesn’t have to impact Spain in the way it did so that’s all just pointless …rather than looking at real possible ways of trying to prevent anything similar in the future if it was weather/atmospheric related…

[Ammi]

…the cheers when the lights came back on in Madrid…

Youtube video

[Nicky91]

i completely understand Portugal for blaming Spain, since they are all on the same power grid

[Nicky91]

could also just be improper maintenance, due to budget cuts or something


these cables need good maintenance work every now and then




also a cyber attack is possible yes, but somehow i always think they pull off more precision attacks at governmental buildings, airports, rather than the power grid of an entire nation


like last year here, a cyberattack at our Schiphol airport, you couldn't acquire your tickets through the computers at the terminals, which was due to a faulty update in a untrustworthy and cheap antivirus system



i get why people think of cyberattacks but idk, i myself more think of other possible causes too