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Old 20-06-2025, 08:01 AM #1
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The 988 National Suicide & Crisis Lifeline will stop providing tailored support options to LGBTQ+ youth and young adults on July 17, according to a statement on a federal agency’s website.

The decision preempts the Trump administration’s 2026 budget proposal to cut funding for 988’s LGBTQ+ youth and young adult services, and is raising alarm bells among LGBTQ+ advocates.

Federal data shows the LGBTQ+ youth program has served nearly 1.3 million callers since it started in September 2022. The services were accessible under the “Press 3” option on the phone or by replying “PRIDE” via text.

The Trevor Project said it received official notice Tuesday that the program was ending. The nonprofit is one of seven centers that provides 988 crisis support services for LGBTQ+ people — and serves nearly half of the people who contact the lifeline.

“ Suicide prevention is about people, not politics,” Trevor Project CEO Jaymes Black said in a statement Wednesday. “The administration’s decision to remove a bipartisan, evidence-based service that has effectively supported a high-risk group of young people through their darkest moments is incomprehensible.”

The specific 988 subprogram for LGBTQ+ youth cost $33 million in fiscal year 2024, according to SAMHSA, and as of June 2025, more than $33 million has been spent on the services. The Trump administration’s 2026 budget proposal called for keeping 988’s total budget at $520 million even while eliminating the LGBTQ+ services.

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Anything that reduces unscientific, radical gender ideology is a good thing. Lying to children is a horrible thing.
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Anything that reduces unscientific, radical gender ideology is a good thing. Lying to children is a horrible thing.
And what do you think about the gay teens who call up being they are on the brink of suicide and need tailored assistance now having that removed?

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And what do you think about the gay teens who call up being they are on the brink of suicide and need tailored assistance now having that removed?
I hope not.


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If it didn't cost anything extra then the only reason to scrap it was red meat to his fans, simple as
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Stop pushing gender ideology, sure.

But denying young people an anti-suicide service?
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Stop pushing gender ideology, sure.

But denying young people an anti-suicide service?
It will still fund the wider 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline - of which the LGBTQ youth option is one part - and that all callers will receive "compassion and help".
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Anything that reduces unscientific, radical gender ideology is a good thing. Lying to children is a horrible thing.
This is harmful to the whole group community though.

And personally I do think that Trans people deserve help too, if they're mentally unwell.
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It’s almost as if LT still hasn’t figured out that the “L”, “G” and “B” exist too.

But hey, when your concern for kids is only performative and your politics are built on outrage I guess it’s hard to keep up. Bless
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They shout for equality yet want their own brand for everything, including suicide hotlines....Get in the line along side the rest of us...there is no need to differentiate between gay and straight all the time..the help will still be there for you...the operators won't slam the phone down because you are gay.

Absolutely no need to be spending extra money on option 3.
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They shout for equality yet want their own brand for everything, including suicide hotlines....Get in the line along side the rest of us...there is no need to differentiate between gay and straight all the time..the help will still be there for you...the operators won't slam the phone down because you are gay.

Absolutely no need to be spending extra money on option 3.
Yeah, funny how you lot scream “equality” when it’s convenient — but the second marginalised people ask for something that actually meets their needs, it’s suddenly “special treatment.”

Queer youth face higher suicide rates, are more likely to be kicked out, abused, or shunned because they’re queer. But sure, let’s pretend a one-size-fits-all hotline magically understands that trauma.

This isn’t about cost. You just don’t like the idea of queer people getting anything that acknowledges their reality. Just admit it — you’re not mad about a phone line. You’re mad they exist.
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Yeah, funny how you lot scream “equality” when it’s convenient — but the second marginalised people ask for something that actually meets their needs, it’s suddenly “special treatment.”

Queer youth face higher suicide rates, are more likely to be kicked out, abused, or shunned because they’re queer. But sure, let’s pretend a one-size-fits-all hotline magically understands that trauma.

This isn’t about cost. You just don’t like the idea of queer people getting anything that acknowledges their reality. Just admit it — you’re not mad about a phone line. You’re mad they exist.



If that accusation were true, then I wouldn't have donated 50 pound to a member of TIBB who was doing a fundraiser to highlight awareness for suicide prevention in the LGBTQ youth...you really should stop hurling these wild accusations about Glenn.

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If that accusation were true, then I wouldn't have donated 50 pound to a member of TIBB who was doing a fundraiser to highlight awareness for suicide prevention in the LGBTQ youth...you really should stop hurling these wild accusations about Glenn.
Ah, the classic “I donated once so I can’t be homophobic” defence. Textbook.

Donating £50 doesn’t erase years of spewing bile or calling gay people predators. You don’t get to buy a clean slate with a charity receipt.
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Ah, the classic “I donated once so I can’t be homophobic” defence. Textbook.

Donating £50 doesn’t erase years of spewing bile or calling gay people predators. You don’t get to buy a clean slate with a charity receipt.
Funnily enough the person I donated it to didn't thank me either.
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They shout for equality yet want their own brand for everything, including suicide hotlines....Get in the line along side the rest of us...there is no need to differentiate between gay and straight all the time..the help will still be there for you...the operators won't slam the phone down because you are gay.

Absolutely no need to be spending extra money on option 3.
No extra money is being spent on it, and no money will be saved in cutting it, please read the article, I put it in bold.

Also in bold is where it states nearly HALF of the callers to the suicide prevention line are LGBTQ+, therefore it stands to reason there needs to be additional focus on that cohort because they make up a large percentage of it's callers.

Often LGBTQ+ issues are specific and need tailored help by people who are training in that specific sector. That's why.
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No extra money is being spent on it, and no money will be saved in cutting it, please read the article, I put it in bold. .
The specific 988 subprogram for LGBTQ+ youth cost $33 million in fiscal year 2024, according to SAMHSA
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Yes. Scrapping it is not going to save any money, the overall budget is the same meaning while the LGBTQ+ line has been defunded the money isn't being saved:

The Trump administration’s 2026 budget proposal called for keeping 988’s total budget at $520 million even while eliminating the LGBTQ+ services.

Even if it was, is it not part of society, as well as economic logic, that specific budgets go to specific causes because it's necessary. Investment/Funding into women's domestic abuse support will be greater than for mens because women are more at risk of domestic abuse, parents receive benefits that people without children do not to help raise the next generation, etc... do you suggest that all funding and benefits should be equal across all demographics even if the need for such funding skews massively in one direction. This would leave things either massively underfunded or massively overfunded. Doesn't make logical sense.
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Yes. Scrapping it is not going to save any money, the overall budget is the same meaning while the LGBTQ+ line has been defunded the money isn't being saved:

The Trump administration’s 2026 budget proposal called for keeping 988’s total budget at $520 million even while eliminating the LGBTQ+ services.

Even if it was, is it not part of society, as well as economic logic, that specific budgets go to specific causes because it's necessary. Investment/Funding into women's domestic abuse support will be greater than for mens because women are more at risk of domestic abuse, parents receive benefits that people without children do not to help raise the next generation, etc... do you suggest that all funding and benefits should be equal across all demographics even if the need for such funding skews massively in one direction. This would leave things either massively underfunded or massively overfunded. Doesn't make logical sense.



All that means is that the operators on line 3 will still be working the lines...And the help will still be available at the end of the phone. Only difference is, and seems like the only thing people are concerned about is the fact the line 3 label has been removed...
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They shout for equality yet want their own brand for everything, including suicide hotlines....Get in the line along side the rest of us...there is no need to differentiate between gay and straight all the time..the help will still be there for you...the operators won't slam the phone down because you are gay.

Absolutely no need to be spending extra money on option 3.
Is it really any different to how on certain topics men and women will have separate things for themselves?
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And personally I do think that Trans people deserve help too, if they're mentally unwell.
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Is it really any different to how on certain topics men and women will have separate things for themselves?
I do agree on this particular topic with Mock especially. He says it very well.
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Is it really any different to how on certain topics men and women will have separate things for themselves?
It's not as simple as men, women, lgbtq.....people d9nt want to kill themselves cause they are one of those 3, but of course some willl, especially perhaps someone suffering mentally who believe they are in the wrong body...but even then, they would maybe expect to be on line 3, but how's that going to help them?

People feel suicidal for a magnitude of reasons, which is why the people on the end of these lines needed full and comprehensive training for all aspects of suicide.

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It's not as simple as men, women, lgbtq.....people d9nt want to kill themselves cause they are one of those 3, but of course some willl, especially perhaps someone suffering mentally who believe they are in the wrong body...but even then, they would maybe expect to be on line 3, but how's that going to help them?

People feel suicidal for a magnitude of reasons, which is why the people on the end of these lines needed full and comprehensive training for all aspects of suicide.
Right now they have a covert specifically trained in LGBTQ+ issues, now removing that line you will need to train everybody else to also have training in LGBT issues. Do you think that additional training for everyone else won't cost money?

This makes no sense from a practical, ethical, logical or ethical POV. There is not one sound reason yet to be given.
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Right now they have a covert specifically trained in LGBTQ+ issues, now removing that line you will need to train everybody else to also have training in LGBT issues. Do you think that additional training for everyone else won't cost money?

This makes no sense from a practical, ethical, logical or ethical POV. There is not one sound reason yet to be given.


You need to show me something that says all the operators on line 3 are LGBTQ, and all the operators on line 1 and 2 are straight.


Or is it simply all down to training, and using the people who adapted to the training the best, for each specific line..


I'm not sure why you are ignoring the cost of the extra line being in use...fair enough they ate not saving money by closing it, but the extra cost of running it is being used elsewhere, perhaps in training and extra lines for all, without differentiating people this time..


It's not about being gay or straight , it's about being suicidal.

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…I was just now reading a little about the Trevor Project because it’s not something that I was familiar with…it’s a non profit organisation founded in 1998…?…so it was up and running when Trump was in his first term as President…but it wasn’t something that he prioritised to ‘scrap’ then…?…so why now…?…and has he researched the ofganisation for him to come to the decision that it’s not something that needs to continue…?…it doesn’t feel as though he has, it feels very much like Farage in commenting on an intended blanket removal of diversity funding just because these things appear to be more populist decision making …and that in itself is very concerning, but not surprising sadly…I don’t know how Government funding in the US works, it’s such a huge country in comparison to us but there does appear to be National funding as well as individual State funding…and as we (…rightly …)…criticise the reduction/removal of funding for more vulnerable and marginalised groups here, then this just feels like such a blow for mental health/people in crisis in general…I know when the mental health funding specifically for children was cut and child services reduced and removed, it’s had a huge negative impact and that impact just becomes more and more…
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