[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Legend

I know exactly what they're for ... and they are used for a head rush, as I use them myself when out.

I know gay men use them to to 'relax the bum' so to speak but straight people use them too, as well as girls, when out for a head rush. And as on the pic Dale is fully clothed in a club, it's obvious he's not using it for the reason you're implying.

Exactly! What people are implying with the poppers thing is ridiculous. lol

[Legend]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

Yeah exactly, it seems obvious he's not going to be *******ed at the moment he was using it.
Good to see there is another person who used it other than me there lol But shhh.

Let's keep Tom's fantasies alive and pretend he was about to run into the toilet after using them.

LOL but it's no big deal, yet because what they're related to, it's turned into one, when they're legal, cheap and give you a quick, good rush.

And Tom, you know I was joking ^^.

[Legend]

Originally posted by Matt10k

Exactly! What people are implying with the poppers thing is ridiculous. lol

I know, I dread to think what people would think of me if I ever got into BB then. Then again, I suppose people might be more informed about things though before spouting in the future.

[Tom]

But whether or not straight people do use them, there is still a massive stigma attached to people using poppers.

[Sod_James]

im gay and never used them, didnt even know what they were till i read this

[Legend]

Originally posted by Tom
But whether or not straight people do use them, there is still a massive stigma attached to people using poppers.

A stigma yes. Though I think assumptions are made due to ignorance really, or just general lack of knowledge about them.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Legend

A stigma yes. Though I think assumptions are made due to ignorance really, or just general lack of knowledge about them.

Stigma's don't attach themselves ...

[Legend]

Originally posted by Tom

Stigma's don't attach themselves ...

Well more fool you for not looking past the stigma.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Legend

Well more fool you for not looking past the stigma.

yep!

[brohoe]

Originally posted by Legend
Some of these comments are ridiculous. Can anybody explain to me the correlation between fancing women and choice of clothes?

well yeah it's a trend, most clothers designers are gay

[Tom]

Originally posted by Matt10k

yep!

Or maybe more fool the pair of you for thinking "oh we do it therefore it means a lot of people do it both gay and straight" when in reality gay people use them more depending on your perspective

There is also a massive trend between clothes people wear and sexuality ... if you can't pick gay people out by what they are wearing then you need to readjust your gaydar. Thats not to say that all straight people wear this and all gay people wear that, but normally you can tell by what people wear.

[brohoe]

Originally posted by Tom

Or maybe more fool the pair of you for thinking "oh we do it therefore it means a lot of people do it both gay and straight" when in reality gay people use them more depending on your perspective

There is also a massive trend between clothes people wear and sexuality ... if you can't pick gay people out by what they are wearing then you need to readjust your gaydar. Thats not to say that all straight people wear this and all gay people wear that, but normally you can tell by what people wear.

exactly... it's a complement... generally, and i do use the the ord genrally very flippenty... gay people wear the laest/most stylish clothes

[Shaun]

The only people I know who use poppers are gay or female.

Just thought I'd put that in there.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Tom

Or maybe more fool the pair of you for thinking "oh we do it therefore it means a lot of people do it both gay and straight" when in reality gay people use them more depending on your perspective

There is also a massive trend between clothes people wear and sexuality ... if you can't pick gay people out by what they are wearing then you need to readjust your gaydar. Thats not to say that all straight people wear this and all gay people wear that, but normally you can tell by what people wear.

Ah come on, you’re the one stereotyping people based on what they do, not us! I never even said I did do it anyway so I don’t know where you’ve got that from?!

Using it as evidence for someones sexuality is ridiculous! Everyone is different, the only thing that would make Dale gay would be being attracted to men, it has nothing to do with all the other stereotypical crap.

Picking up on the fact that he is seen sniffing poppers outside a club and linking it to his sexuality is kind of silly! We were just pointing out that many straight people take them.

[stonedape]

There are always reasons for stereotypes, and there are always reason to look past them. Let's leave it at that, eh?

[Tom]

Originally posted by Matt10k

Ah come on, you’re the one stereotyping people based on what they do, not us! I never even said I did do it anyway so I don’t know where you’ve got that from?!

Using it as evidence for someones sexuality is ridiculous! Everyone is different, the only thing that would make Dale gay would be being attracted to men, it has nothing to do with all the other stereotypical c**p.

Picking up on the fact that he is seen sniffing poppers outside a club and linking it to his sexuality is kind of silly! We were just pointing out that many straight people take them.

I didnt actually say Dale was gay in the first place though, I said might, and I said bi

You do realise stereotypes have been built mentally for a reason? Its because generally, thats what happens. Its similar to saying only people on benefits and tramps live on council estates. Now by making a generalisation, that is true but of course its not true in the sense that there are exceptions, but not many exceptions. Its the same principle which applies.

So yeah, some straight people also do poppers- but mainly straight females. Of course some straight males will do but probably nowhere near enough to override the stereotype.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Tom

I didnt actually say Dale was gay in the first place though, I said might, and I said bi

You do realise stereotypes have been built mentally for a reason? Its because generally, thats what happens. Its similar to saying only people on benefits and tramps live on council estates. Now by making a generalisation, that is true but of course its not true in the sense that there are exceptions, but not many exceptions. Its the same principle which applies.

So yeah, some straight people also do poppers- but mainly straight females. Of course some straight males will do but probably nowhere near enough to override the stereotype.

I understand stereotypes and I think a lot of them are incorrect- I don't believe in generalising people.

You can choose to follow them if you want, I just think it makes you look a little closed minded because you are assuming something about someone that could be incorrect and at times hurtful.

Much better to not assume anything and judge everyone on an individual basis, after you've got to know them- not based around silly things like what they watch on tv, whether they do poppers or not, clothes they wear etc...

[thisisme2008]

Originally posted by Sod_James
Im gay and never used them, didnt even know what they were till i read this

I'm gay too and i know what they are and I've never used them, but i have loads of gay friends who have, and loads of straight friends who have. Yeah they are useful for sex, but straights take them because they give you a 5 minute high. That's all.

[Legend]

Originally posted by Matt10k

I understand stereotypes and I think a lot of them are incorrect- I don't believe in generalising people.

You can choose to follow them if you want, I just think it makes you look a little closed minded because you are assuming something about someone that could be incorrect and at times hurtful.

Much better to not assume anything and judge everyone on an individual basis, after you've got to know them- not based around silly things like what they watch on tv, whether they do poppers or not, clothes they wear etc...

You said it all there. But in fairness, it's going to fall on deaf ears. I can tell this is one of Tom's "I'm right" debates where he has an answer to everything, logical or not.

Tom, you stated that he may be bi for using poppers because of a stereotype and a generalistion, so that's why I said more fool you for not looking past them. I'm not trying to say that because some straight people use them then that overides the stereotype [that's not even the point, I'm not trying to say it should as I don't pay attention to stereotypes because in a lot of cases, it's just stereotypical bullshit which you're proving], that weren't my point, my point was that it's a pathetic thing to base somebody's sexuality on ... the fact they use poppers when it's obvious he was fully clothed in a nightclub and not about to bend over on a bed ...

Plus, you said earlier they weren't used for a head rush, and you didn't know straight people to use them ... now you do know that straight people use them but it's mainly females ... but I thought they only had one purpose?

[Tom]

Originally posted by Legend

You said it all there. But in fairness, it's going to fall on deaf ears. I can tell this is one of Tom's "I'm right" debates where he has an answer to everything, logical or not.

Tom, you stated that he may be bi for using poppers because of a stereotype and a generalistion, so that's why I said more fool you for not looking past them. I'm not trying to say that because some straight people use them then that overides the stereotype [that's not even the point, I'm not trying to say it should as I don't pay attention to stereotypes because in a lot of cases, it's just stereotypical bullshit which you're proving], that weren't my point, my point was that it's a pathetic thing to base somebody's sexuality on ... the fact they use poppers when it's obvious he was fully clothed in a nightclub and not about to bend over on a bed ...

Plus, you said earlier they weren't used for a head rush, and you didn't know straight people to use them ... now you do know that straight people use them but it's mainly females ... but I thought they only had one purpose?

I meant I've never seen a straight male use poppers and I've asked a few random people from allover the country, some who I don't know personally, and they've said practically the same as that.

And the point you are missing is that I said he might be bi, not that he is. Massive difference. Its an association so obviously I'm inclined to believe that but I didn't come to the conclusion that he was because he uses them.

And I still hold my belief on stereotypes. Mental images of stereotypes have been built up for a reason, not because someone woke up one day and thought it would be a good association.

[Jack]

Dale's myspace states him as straight, and he said himself he likes women; that's pretty conclusive evidence.

Yes he uses/used poppers, and yes they are more associated with the gay community. I can see where Tom is coming from, and if it wasn't clearly stated from Dale himself that he is straight then his sexuality would be more questionable in my opinion because of that fact. However being a DJ, he is surrounded by recreational drugs and the like so it's obvious it's there's nothing more to it.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Tom
So yeah, some straight people also do poppers- but mainly straight females. Of course some straight males will do but probably nowhere near enough to override the stereotype.

Do you have evidence to back any of this up or are you just relying on stereotypes again?

[Rob]

i think its just dennis but i think darnell might be, possibly mikey

[letmein]

Originally posted by brohoe

well yeah it's a trend, most clothers designers are gay

Even the women?

[Tom]

Originally posted by Matt10k

Do you have evidence to back any of this up or are you just relying on stereotypes again?

Like I say, I've asked about to see whether it is just me thinking I've never seen a straight man use poppers and a hell of a lot more other people have also said no, and have said its for gays and women. These people are largely ones I don't know personally or ones I do know but live in different places around the country.