[Maru]

Originally Posted by bots

it's an authoritarian battle over free speech. Soon the media landscape in America will be like Russia and thats not being alarmist

Our Federal institutions are political in nature and their policies are driven by the administrations they work under. Propaganda likes to talk of our institutions as supreme glorious entities of objectivity, but that's not true. Trump runs the Federal Govt, so there's no way around that. He gets at least some say in the agencies he overlooks by whom he appoints. Just as the past 3+ Presidents have tried pushing past the Legislative Branch with Executive Orders. (Edit: Modern Presidencies are fans of enacting through EOs and putting pressure on the Judicial Branch)

Neither of those issues are new and it became a problem as Congress started forfeiting their duties. Congress has the ability and the obligation to move things along with legislation and depressurize our political environment. Instead, they're keen to keep up the divisions and chat **** at cameras rather than make changes that would put more people at ease... now various branches have been getting directly more involved in the running of the individual States, which is also not how it's supposed to work. Frankly, I don't even think some of the people currently elected to serve know how the govt is meant to function, which is part of the problem.

The media is inflaming divisions and not being responsible with the people they're employing, but at the same time, there's not really much that can be done without legislation... the FCC is supposed to fill that role currently, so while that part is technically not wrong, that's a lot of power to be given to basically an un-elected agency.

[Maru]

Oh, wow. I did not expect that.

Trump announces ‘sick, dangerous’ Antifa will be designated ‘a major terrorist organization’
https://nypost.com/2025/09/17/us-new...-organization/

President Trump announced Wednesday that he will designate Antifa as a “MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION” and push for investigations of backers of the radical, left-wing group.

“I am pleased to inform our many U.S.A. Patriots that I am designating ANTIFA, A SICK, DANGEROUS, RADICAL LEFT DISASTER, AS A MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

“I will also be strongly recommending that those funding ANTIFA be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices,” the president added. “Thank you for your attention to this matter!”

[bots]

Originally Posted by Maru

Oh, wow. I did not expect that.

Trump announces ‘sick, dangerous’ Antifa will be designated ‘a major terrorist organization’
https://nypost.com/2025/09/17/us-new...-organization/

if people don't see and understand the consequences of what is going on here, they are blind. This will give Trump the ability to lock up his political opponents without trial and it won't just be radical leftists, it will be anyone that speaks out that he doesn't agree with

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bots

if people don't see and understand the consequences of what is going on here, they are blind. This will give Trump the ability to lock up his political opponents without trial and it won't just be radical leftists, it will be anyone that speaks out that he doesn't agree with

…finally becoming the Putin he’s always aspired to be…

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by bots

if people don't see and understand the consequences of what is going on here, they are blind. This will give Trump the ability to lock up his political opponents without trial and it won't just be radical leftists, it will be anyone that speaks out that he doesn't agree with

Exactly.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by bots

if people don't see and understand the consequences of what is going on here, they are blind. This will give Trump the ability to lock up his political opponents without trial and it won't just be radical leftists, it will be anyone that speaks out that he doesn't agree with

Antifa should've been designated the moment they began showing up during protests to incite riots for their cause. That could've happened under Biden as well... would that have been any better?...

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Maru

Antifa should've been designated the moment they began showing up during protests to incite riots for their cause. That could've happened under Biden as well... would that have been any better?...

Yet he pardoned everyone involved in Jan 6th.

Where is his terrorist classification for Proud Boys - an actual organisation with a leader who incite riots during protests for their cause.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by bots

if people don't see and understand the consequences of what is going on here, they are blind. This will give Trump the ability to lock up his political opponents without trial and it won't just be radical leftists, it will be anyone that speaks out that he doesn't agree with

They tried the same with him for years....

Its about time someone saw antifa for what they really are.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Maru

Oh, wow. I did not expect that.

Trump announces ‘sick, dangerous’ Antifa will be designated ‘a major terrorist organization’
https://nypost.com/2025/09/17/us-new...-organization/

Great news

[BBXX]

Erm people being reprimanded for celebrating death is one thing, people being reprimanded for calling a spade a spade is quite another.

[arista]

A thread on this is on TV Chat

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...d.php?t=398698

ABC
did not agree with Jimmy
so sent him home


[The veteran host's Jimmy Kimmel Live! will be removed
from the network for the foreseeable future,
over his divisive comments regarding the
assassination of Charlie Kirk.
The veteran host's Jimmy Kimmel Live! will be removed
from the network for the foreseeable future,
over his divisive comments regarding the
assassination of Charlie Kirk. ]

[Maru]

Originally Posted by arista

A thread on this is on TV Chat

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...d.php?t=398698


[The veteran host's Jimmy Kimmel Live! will be removed
from the network for the foreseeable future,
over his divisive comments regarding the
assassination of Charlie Kirk.
The veteran host's Jimmy Kimmel Live! will be removed
from the network for the foreseeable future,
over his divisive comments regarding the
assassination of Charlie Kirk. ]

Yeah supposedly Nexstar/Sinclair went to FCC and this is how this started...

[BBXX]

"Militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism. Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives.[1] In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.[2] "

https://web.archive.org/web/20250911...stic-terrorism

The idea that Fox News is allows to air segments about how the homeless should be euthanised and that those with mental illness should be, too, yet left-wing presenters can't make comment about how CK's death has been politicised (which you only need to look back on this thread to see it has) is INSANE.

You either stand against freedom of expression and speech or you don't. Anyone condoning this latest move, while crying about how 'freedom of speech is under threat because of the left' needs to seek professional help and I mean that with the best of intentions without insult.

I'm not even American and this level of authoritarianism, double-standards and hypocrisy held by the highest level in the World is terrifying.

[arista]

Originally Posted by BBXX

https://web.archive.org/web/20250911...stic-terrorism

The idea that Fox News is allows to air segments about how the homeless should be euthanised and that those with mental illness should be, too, yet left-wing presenters can't make comment about how CK's death has been politicised (which you only need to look back on this thread to see it has) is INSANE.

You either stand against freedom of expression and speech or you don't. Anyone condoning this latest move, while crying about how 'freedom of speech is under threat because of the left' needs to seek professional help and I mean that with the best of intentions without insult.

I'm not even American and this level of authoritarianism, double-standards and hypocrisy held by the highest level in the World is terrifying.

But he was referring
to the Evil Killer, who was homeless,
who murdered that nice young Ukrainian lady.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by arista

But he was referring
to the Evil Killer, who was homeless,
who murdered that nice young Ukrainian lady.

No, he didn't say that specific person should be killed.

He said homeless people who rejected publicly-funded help should be lethally injected.

[BBXX]

Jimmy Kimmel literally starts this segment (from the day after) not condoning the celebration of his death. He called his murder senseless and called those celebrating it vile.

Youtube video

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not sure he said a great deal to be dismissed but its a cauldron out there

He has said worse, I thought, but the timing is terrible. Overall, I don't think some in the media are getting the message from below. On the ground in the US, we are having a major reckoning over the state of our political environment. Sinclair's message was posted on their Investor Relations page also, so maybe they were also seeing some pressure from shareholders.

I do find it a bit funny that the amount of people complaining probably far outweigh the number of people who actually watch him. Fewer people watch Network TV or Cable News than in the past... but users always act like cancellations are some big surprise (given dropping viewership). Normal people just go on like normal.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Maru

He has said worse, I thought, but the timing is terrible. Overall, I don't think some in the media are getting the message from below. On the ground in the US, we are having a major reckoning over the state of our political environment. Sinclair's message was posted on their Investor Relations page also, so maybe they were also seeing some pressure from shareholders.

I do find it a bit funny that the amount of people complaining probably far outweigh the number of people who actually watch him. Fewer people watch Network TV or Cable News than in the past... but users always act like cancellations are some big surprise (given dropping viewership). Normal people just go on like normal.

I did see on the other thread that he was insinuating that the shooter was a conservative so fake news as his political leanings had changed, but not sure even that is a reason to suspend him

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I did see on the other thread that he was insinuating that the shooter was a conservative so fake news as his political leanings had changed, but not sure even that is a reason to suspend him

Here's what the FCC chair said:

Basically they're claiming he intentionally lied.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Maru

Here's what the FCC chair said:

Basically they're claiming he intentionally lied.

but All those on fox news etc were free to say that trump won the 2020 election

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by bots

but All those on fox news etc were free to say that trump won the 2020 election

Fox News can say whatever they want at any point without repercussion, because the U.S is being led by a dictator.

Kimmel didn't even say he was MAGA he just said the far right are labelling him as anything but.

But that's not the reason he was suspended, it was because he made trump look like a shallow fool who actually didn't care about his friends murder.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by bots

but All those on fox news etc were free to say that trump won the 2020 election

They all need to calm tf down, imo.

[bots]

it is interesting that america has been lecturing us on having no free speech and then they do this

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bots

it is interesting that america has been lecturing us on having no free speech and then they do this

Starmer probably gave them the idea by prescribing PA as a Terrorist group

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Starmer probably gave them the idea by prescribing PA as a Terrorist group

We declare terrorist organizations all the time. The KKK is labeled a terrorist group and various militia fall under this category when they run afoul with the law. "Army of God", a Christian terrorist group, is known for attacking people who support abortions. Antifa are no different than any of the others mentioned, especially as they tried to skirt the law by acting as a militia.

The main point of labeling them a terrorist organization is so that if another institution or agency runs into them, the Federal govt has set clear guidelines for dealing with them. A public agency is more likely to be informed by the FBI, etc, if they're active in that area. Smaller agencies work with the FBI all the time in this way to try to keep an eye on problems local to their area. So basically, it just puts them on the formal map for monitoring. They still have the same rights as other American citizens...

What Does a "Terrorist" Designation Mean? (TLDR: It's very complicated)
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article...signation-mean

Other groups:

No Lives Matter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Lives_Matter

No Lives Matter (NLM) is a misanthropic, neo-Nazi online hate group that advocates for violence, terrorism and the destruction of humanity. Its core principles are radical nihilism and antihumanism. The organization gained notoriety for its actions in the form of attacks.[2] NLM also released violent manifestos explaining their philosophy, as well as advice on assault and murder.[2][1][3] The name "No Lives Matter" is a reference to the Black Lives Matter movement.[4]

Edit:

On 21 August 2024, the New Jersey Office of Homeland Security and Preparedness released a threat assessment. According to the report, NLM is "[...] looking for more soldiers to join our ranks, true misanthropic individuals" and they "only accept people that do irl [in real life] action". One precondition for acceptance into NLM is the practice of self harm in the form of "[...] deep bloody cuts that represent us [NLM]".[1]

The FBI arrested a man from Virginia on 17 December 2024 and confiscated 150 explosive devices, most of which were pipe bombs. They were stored in a backpack with a "#NoLivesMatter" patch attached to it. There was no evidence that he was associated with the No Lives Matter organization.[7][8]

Terrorgram
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorgram

Terrorgram (sometimes stylized in all caps)[2] is a far-right, decentralized network of Telegram channels and accounts that subscribe to or promote militant accelerationism. Terrorgram channels are neo-fascist in ideology, and regularly share instructions and manuals on how to carry out hate crimes, mass shootings and target critical infrastructure and even lists of potential targets. Terrorgram is a key communications forum for individuals and networks attached to Atomwaffen Division, The Base, and other explicit militant accelerationist groups.