[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

You might describe Boris as a 'clown' or use it as you feel it makes your opinion more valid,but it doesn't , as most of us know he is NOT a clown,he is a clever guy,he may come across as a 'clown' but that in itself is a clever move,just because the opposition keep blocking Brexit,does not make the other party stupid or 'clowns' but saying that I'de rather be called a 'clown' than a coward which is what Corbyn seems to be

Dont lie Kazanne. The brexit ultras blocked brexit time and time again by not supporting May's deal.

Did you know johnson was sacked twice for lying? And he is lying again about non existent negotiations. He is a lying clown

[arista]

Labour want a General Election in Late Nov.


Reports say.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Typical left..breaking rules deliberately to suit thier own agenda.

Dont lie, I'm not breaking any rules. Bc was allowed by Josy. Take it up with her, big guy

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Dont lie Kazanne. The brexit ultras blocked brexit time and time again by not supporting May's deal.

Did you know johnson was sacked twice for lying? And he is lying again about non existent negotiations. He is a lying clown

May's deal wasn't Brexit, it kept us tied to the EU, that's why it was rejected. May was a remainer before the referendum, she was a remainer during her Premiership and she's a remainer now.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Farage says he's willing to come together to make a pact with Johnson to target seats, if Johnson wants to go for a clean break Brexit. Farage says he has 630 candidates ready to go.

Yes he has been saying that for some time.
But so far PM Johnson has not spoken to Farage.
So unless he does
its up in the air

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

Labour want a General Election in Late Nov.


Reports say.

chick chick, chick chick chicken, lay a little egg for me.

Chick chick. Chick chick chicken, I want one for my tea

I haven't had an egg since Easter. and now it's half past three

So chick chick. Chick chick chicken. Lay a little egg for me

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

May's deal wasn't Brexit, it kept us tied to the EU, that's why it was reject. May was a remainer before the referendum, she was a remainer during her Premiership and she's a remainer now.

Theres no mandate for hard brexit

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Theres no mandate for hard brexit

At the moment , there is not
Correct

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

chick chick, chick chick chicken, lay a little egg for me.

Chick chick. Chick chick chicken, I want one for my tea

I haven't had an egg since Easter. and now it's half past three

So chick chick. Chick chick chicken. Lay a little egg for me

Upset the clown's ruse didnt work.

Bc nobody trusts the liar

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Theres no mandate for hard brexit

There's no such thing as hard Brexit. We voted to leave, so let's leave.

I've just made up a new saying "Hard remaining" nonsense, isn't it?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

There's no such thing as hard Brexit. We voted to leave, so let's leave.

I've just made up a new saying "Hard remaining" nonsense, isn't it?

People were promised a deal by the leave side.

Or was it another lie?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Upset the clown's ruse didnt work.

Bc nobody trusts the liar

Sometimes Politician's have to lie, I expect it, it's always happened, they all lie from time to time. But do I want a leader to represent us to be a cowardly chicken, nah, I don't.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

People were promised a deal by the leave side.

Or was it another lie?

more like false promises, false hopes given by the upper class brexiteer elite


since what do they have to gain with a deal, nothing


and they won't struggle at all after a no deal brexit, even more so these upper class will even get any richer



middle class and poor in britain however they will struggle a lot after a no deal

[Alf]

Corbyn in May: "we need to have a General Election"

Corbyn in June: We need to have a General Election"

Corbyn in July: We need to have a General Election"

Corbyn in August: We need to have a General Election"

Johnson in September: Let's have a General Election"

Corbyn in September: "I'm going home, my dinners ready"

[The Slim Reaper]

I think Alf is having a breakdown, somebody call a doctor.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I think Alf is having a breakdown, somebody call a doctor.

I'll take that as a victory.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

I'll take that as a victory.

You're welcome to it if you believe your hysterical, multi-page, fact free, diatribe bears any relation to reality.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You're welcome to it if you believe your hysterical, multi-page, fact free, diatribe bears any relation to reality.

Let's hear the facts then, the stage is all yours.

[joeysteele]

What is actually being missed is.
We had a referendum in 2016 which produced a narrow 3.8% majority of those who voted.
Fine.
Yes the vote was to leave.

Then there was, after that referendum, a year later a full general election.
Only 2 years after the last one.

No candidate in that election on a Party manifesto, who won a seat, fought on a NO DEAL brexit.

The voters sent all these MPs to Parliament.
This was their choice 2 years after the previous election and one year after the referendum.

Now, it's wrong to revisit the referendum result again.
However it's fine to hold another election
A third in 4 years.

It is dead right to make sure NO DEAL is out the way before an election.
Or a pause on its possibility until after any election.

The failure of this government to secure this as a Parliamentary brexit rather than just a government one.
Is why we are in this mess.

Also all votes on brexit in Parliament, should have been for all Parties, free votes at the very least.

Johnson is really the worst possible PM the UK could have at this time.
His word to individuals, Country and even Parliament, near meaningless and untrustworthy.

If Labour in government were acting like this, expelling MPs from their Party, after multi decades of service.
Also riding recklessly over votes in Parliamentary votes.
They would be derided and rightly condemned universally for it.
Me one of the first doing so too.

This is the Parliament the voters elected only a year after the referendum.
This is the Parliament the voters elected to deliver brexit.

If a new election is again now necessary, the 3rd in only 4 years.
Then it must not in my view anyway, be held until at least November once crashing out with no deal on 31st October is removed as a likelihood.

This PM can easily get domestic agendas done.
Restore the MPs he's expelled.
They still support his domestic agenda.
He still has the DUP on board too.

No need for a general election at all until brexit is ready to move to the next phase.
Then have an election for voters to decide which Party is best to deal in that next phase.

Or simply, put NO DEAL and REMAIN choices to the voters in another referendum.

This mess is of this government's and this PM and some of his present Cabinet's own making since THEY stabbed in the back, their last leader's efforts.
Voting down her deal to follow their own more extreme agenda re brexit.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Let's hear the facts then, the stage is all yours.

You've shown time and again that you're impervious to facts, so there's no point.

I'll be honest here, I think no deal brexit will be the only way we can move forward as a country. Brexit is a doomsday cult, and you need to see it for yourselves.

None of this was mentioned in the leave campaign, and look how easily you've convinced yourselves that you wanted no deal all along, despite the warnings of most of the leave campaign.

I could point out that BJ wrote 2 columns on brexit. 1) why I voted for brexit 2) why I voted against brexit. He waited to see what happened before pretending he was on the right side. He's a chancer using you guys for personal ambition, and you can't see it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

chick chick, chick chick chicken, lay a little egg for me.

Chick chick. Chick chick chicken, I want one for my tea

I haven't had an egg since Easter. and now it's half past three

So chick chick. Chick chick chicken. Lay a little egg for me

aint that the truth Alf.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

Sometimes Politician's have to lie, I expect it, it's always happened, they all lie from time to time. But do I want a leader to represent us to be a cowardly chicken, nah, I don't.

It's ok people banging on about getting a deal,what if the EU doesn't give us a deal ? what do they want us to do then ?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

aint that the truth Alf.

It's not true Kaz. They'll give them an election as soon as no deal on 31/10 is off the table. You can't expect politicians to vote to make their constituents poorer, and if a candidate in your area was promising that in the lead to an election, there's no way you'd vote for them.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's ok people banging on about getting a deal,what if the EU doesn't give us a deal ? what do they want us to do then ?

A deal isn't one side giving the other side a deal. We want to leave and still trade with the eu, so it's up to us to make a deal, not eu.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It's not true Kaz. They'll give them an election as soon as no deal on 31/10 is off the table. You can't expect politicians to vote to make their constituents poorer, and if a candidate in your area was promising that in the lead to an election, there's no way you'd vote for them.

And when Boris wins big at the General Election, he'll just put no deal back on the table, and then leave. Until Brexit is complete, it's never going away, even if it takes over 20 years.