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Kinda wish I could keep up with the sciencey side, without all the scaremongering crap in the media. But its hard I have found, to follow one without the other (I stopped when a bunch of the papers I read were from a 'omg plague or not?!' type angle..when it was clear by that point that it was NOT this massive scourge of humanity thing, even science is influenced by media, it appears sadly). The stuff I have learnt about virus behaviour, cross species diseases, biolabs ( ) and their..mistakes in the past..loads of stuff really that I would never have even thought about without this. I love finding something interesting to focus on like. Slight shame that this thing to focus on is killing so many like, but..its still interesting!

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My step dad took my Nan because my mum was working and they offered him the jab on the spot because they had spares tonight
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My step dad took my Nan because my mum was working and they offered him the jab on the spot because they had spares tonight
Thats good news, apparently they were just chucking the spares early on, so glad they are finding use for them
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Sky News running the story that the WHO are about to endorse the AstraZenica vaccine for ALL adult age groups ..


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Well the apparent growing threat of nerve gas attacks has really gave me something to be positive about today, brilliant
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Netherlands total of vaccinated people as of today 504.736

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and this friday the first people to be vaccinated (care workers) with AstraZeneca
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I had the vaccine this afternoon.
It didn't hurt, just a little pressure when they give it.
My arm hurt a little, but I feel perfectly fine.
It was very well organized and everyone was so kind.
I was very nervous, but they put me at ease.
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I had the vaccine this afternoon.
It didn't hurt, just a little pressure when they give it.
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It was very well organized and everyone was so kind.
I was very nervous, but they put me at ease.
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It didn't hurt, just a little pressure when they give it.
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It was very well organized and everyone was so kind.
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Great news Ness.....
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It was very well organized and everyone was so kind.
I was very nervous, but they put me at ease.
Brilliant Vanessa, pleased they put you at ease.
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It was very well organized and everyone was so kind.
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I had the vaccine this afternoon.
It didn't hurt, just a little pressure when they give it.
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It was very well organized and everyone was so kind.
I was very nervous, but they put me at ease.
...that’s such wonderful news, Vanessa...we need that right now and I’m thrilled for you......
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WHO vaccine experts have said that the AstraZeneca-Oxford Covid-19 vaccine could be used for people aged over 65, and also in settings where variants of the virus are circulating.

The 15-member Strategic Advisory Group of Experts on Immunization (SAGE) issued a range of interim recommendations for when and how to use the two-shot vaccine, which has yet to receive emergency use authorisation from the World Health Organization.

The announcement came after the vaccine has suffered several setbacks, raising questions about whether it was appropriate to use it for older people, or in places where a variant of the virus first found in South Africa is circulating.

SAGE chief Alejandro Cravioto acknowledged that there was a lack of data on the efficacy of the vaccine for people over the age of 65, which has prompted a number of countries to recommend against its use in older people.

But, he told journalists, "we feel that the response of this group cannot be any different from groups of a younger age".

SAGE, he said, recommends "for the vaccine to be used for 18 years and above without an upper age limit."

The experts also said they had discussed the effectiveness of the vaccine when faced with a range new variants of concern of the coronavirus, and in particular the one first spotted in South Africa.

The country has decided to put off using AstraZeneca jabs in a planned vaccination programme over concerns about their efficacy against the prominent virus variant in the country.

Alarm was raised when a trial at Johannesburg's University of Witwatersrand concluded the AstraZeneca vaccine provided only "minimal" protection against mild to moderate Covid-19 caused by the variant.

That was bad news for many poorer nations counting on the greater accessibility, affordability and logistical advantages offered by the AstraZeneca shot.

But the WHO and its partners have cautioned against dismissing the vaccine, pointing to the small size and possibly problematic methodology of the South African study, insisting more data was needed.

And SAGE stressed today that the vaccine could also be used in places where "variants are present."

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Mr Cravioto stressed that "there is no reason not to recommend its use even in the countries that have the circulation of the variants".

The experts also reiterated their recommendation not to prioritise international travellers for vaccination.

"In the current period of very limited vaccine supply, preferential vaccination of international travellers would counter the principle of equity," they said.

SAGE, which advises the WHO on overall global vaccine policies and strategies, has already issued advice on the usage of the Pfizer-BioNTech and the Moderna vaccines.

UK-Swedish pharmaceuticals giant AstraZeneca's vaccine is currently a vital part of Covax, the system set up by WHO and others to procure Covid-19 jabs and ensure their equitable distribution around the world.

It accounts for the vast majority of the 337.2 million vaccine doses Covax is preparing to begin shipping to some 145 countries during the first half of the year, once it receives WHO authorisation.

The WHO is set to decide next week on whether to give the AstraZeneca vaccine emergency use authorisation for doses of the jab produced in India and South Korea.

If granted, doses from those sites could start to be distributed to some of the world's poorest countries via Covax.

So far, the WHO has only given emergency use listing to the Pfizer jab, though several other manufacturers have started the evaluation process, including AstraZeneca and Moderna

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/...a-vaccine-who/


The reason for the lack of data in over 65 is that many were at home shielding so unlikely to catch corona, they should have enlisted Piers Corbyn for the trial
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WHO vaccine experts have said that the AstraZeneca-Oxford Covid-19 vaccine could be used for people aged over 65, and also in settings where variants of the virus are circulating.

The 15-member Strategic Advisory Group of Experts on Immunization (SAGE) issued a range of interim recommendations for when and how to use the two-shot vaccine, which has yet to receive emergency use authorisation from the World Health Organization.

The announcement came after the vaccine has suffered several setbacks, raising questions about whether it was appropriate to use it for older people, or in places where a variant of the virus first found in South Africa is circulating.

SAGE chief Alejandro Cravioto acknowledged that there was a lack of data on the efficacy of the vaccine for people over the age of 65, which has prompted a number of countries to recommend against its use in older people.

But, he told journalists, "we feel that the response of this group cannot be any different from groups of a younger age".

SAGE, he said, recommends "for the vaccine to be used for 18 years and above without an upper age limit."

The experts also said they had discussed the effectiveness of the vaccine when faced with a range new variants of concern of the coronavirus, and in particular the one first spotted in South Africa.

The country has decided to put off using AstraZeneca jabs in a planned vaccination programme over concerns about their efficacy against the prominent virus variant in the country.

Alarm was raised when a trial at Johannesburg's University of Witwatersrand concluded the AstraZeneca vaccine provided only "minimal" protection against mild to moderate Covid-19 caused by the variant.

That was bad news for many poorer nations counting on the greater accessibility, affordability and logistical advantages offered by the AstraZeneca shot.

But the WHO and its partners have cautioned against dismissing the vaccine, pointing to the small size and possibly problematic methodology of the South African study, insisting more data was needed.

And SAGE stressed today that the vaccine could also be used in places where "variants are present."

Read more coronavirus stories

Mr Cravioto stressed that "there is no reason not to recommend its use even in the countries that have the circulation of the variants".

The experts also reiterated their recommendation not to prioritise international travellers for vaccination.

"In the current period of very limited vaccine supply, preferential vaccination of international travellers would counter the principle of equity," they said.

SAGE, which advises the WHO on overall global vaccine policies and strategies, has already issued advice on the usage of the Pfizer-BioNTech and the Moderna vaccines.

UK-Swedish pharmaceuticals giant AstraZeneca's vaccine is currently a vital part of Covax, the system set up by WHO and others to procure Covid-19 jabs and ensure their equitable distribution around the world.

It accounts for the vast majority of the 337.2 million vaccine doses Covax is preparing to begin shipping to some 145 countries during the first half of the year, once it receives WHO authorisation.

The WHO is set to decide next week on whether to give the AstraZeneca vaccine emergency use authorisation for doses of the jab produced in India and South Korea.

If granted, doses from those sites could start to be distributed to some of the world's poorest countries via Covax.

So far, the WHO has only given emergency use listing to the Pfizer jab, though several other manufacturers have started the evaluation process, including AstraZeneca and Moderna

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/...a-vaccine-who/


The reason for the lack of data in over 65 is that many were at home shielding so unlikely to catch corona, they should have enlisted Piers Corbyn for the trial
why are WHO advocating AstraZeneca that much?
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My Dad (70 next week) got the phone call this morning at 8 to go for his at the village surgery at 10 and has just come back - quick and easy.

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Sooooo .. slight tangent .. but you know all the thousands of people getting vaccinated daily ... presumably many must be already infected and are asymptotic ??

How does that effect them ??

Good , bad or indifferent ??


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