[Redway]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Zizu, not sure why you think it's so odd that Redway quoted himself? I've quoted myself before, basically when I wanted to add something to what I'd already said or highlight a point I'd made previously

I wonder, Niamh. I really do.

And the fact that he was so pressed about it through about 3 pages. Like, what the hell? Who does that?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

I wonder, Niamh. I really do.

And the fact that he was so pressed about it through about 3 pages. Like, what the hell? Who does that?

You appeared to diss or criticise YOURSELF !


It really isn’t that complicated …


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

You appeared to diss or criticise YOURSELF !


It really isn’t that complicated …


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And like I said, this forum isn’t WrongPlanet. Clearly, most people (including Niamh) understood. It was a simple, simple subtext that most people wouldn’t bat an eyelid over but you chose to go ’round and ’round the houses with, expecting everyone to accommodate your misinterpretation of social subtext. No-one else struggled to understand. Just you, and you thought you were entitled to people to make even the blatantly obvious more obvious, just for you, one poster out of hundreds.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Zizu, not sure why you think it's so odd that Redway quoted himself? I've quoted myself before, basically when I wanted to add something to what I'd already said or highlight a point I'd made previously

You wouldn’t criticise yourself though as he did …


I often quote myself.. I did it in yesterday in a football thread but only to show that I something I predicted came to fruition.



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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

You wouldn’t criticise yourself though as he did …


I often quote myself.. I did it in yesterday in a football thread but only to show that I something I predicted came to fruition.



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He wasn't, he was agreeing with himself and reinforcing his same view

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He wasn't, he was agreeing with himself and reinforcing his same view

It can be seen TWO ways though

I took it as though he was telling the writer to ‘stop’


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It can be seen TWO ways though

I took it as though he was telling the writer to ‘stop’


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Clearly not though as he's the writer ....

[Kate!]

Ok this is uncomfortable now.

Let's give Zizu a break. Anyone is perfectly entitled not to like him. Let's not carry on? And Zizu please leave it there as well.

Red, I responded to your earlier post but I don't think you saw it?? Xx

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Ok this is uncomfortable now.

Let's give Zizu a break. Anyone is perfectly entitled not to like him. Let's not carry on? And Zizu please leave it there as well.

Red, I responded to your earlier post but I don't think you saw it?? Xx

Honestly, Kate, it would be a sight for sore eyes if he left it there and admitted that the whole forum shouldn’t feel like they have to bend over backwards for him in-case he can’t pick up a particular cue. He really doesn’t help himself but he needs to learn to account for that eventually. He’s an adult, just like the rest of us. Older than most of us at that. Literally a retired pensioner.

I don’t think anyone really wants to hound him or cause him discomfort but just by constantly pushing this issue like a dog with a bone, he’s putting himself in the firing line, and the natural consequence of that is being questioned about what exactly he’s playing at or trying to prove.

It shouldn’t have to fall to me or Niamh to teach a 60-something-year-old man about accountability or how not to hijack a conversation with his constant misperceptions. He just does it too often at this point for me to be comfortable staying quiet about it, I can’t lie. I appreciate you looking out for him (genuinely) but I honestly think he gets away with too much and expects too much assumed innocence and running around after his misperceptions because of his autism. I don’t want to shield him from the natural consequences of how often his misreadings disrupt things and cause unnecessary nuisance. I just can’t be tiptoeing around that. I feel like that just enables him.

The truth is, he hijacks discussions, puts himself directly in the firing line by obsessively clinging to his misunderstandings like a barnacle and acts like it’s everyone-else’s job to manage those misunderstandings for him. I’m pretty sick of it at this point. I just feel like if he’s old enough to draw a pension, he’s old enough to know that he’s not entitled to a lifetime-exemption from criticism or the expectation of basic group-awareness. He has set out deliberately to weaponise his diagnosis into a shield against consequence, like a naughty child, and he deliberately pushes boundaries over and over again. And he makes many xenophobic, misogynistic comments all the time. That alone erodes whatever sympathy I’d have for him. At some point he will have to sit down and have a word with himself. He’s an idiot, a pervert and a disgrace.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Honestly, Kate, it would be a sight for sore eyes if he left it there and admitted that the whole forum shouldn’t feel like they have to bend over backwards for him in-case he can’t pick up a particular cue. He really doesn’t help himself but he needs to learn to account for that eventually. He’s an adult, just like the rest of us. Older than most of us at that. Literally a retired pensioner.

I don’t think anyone really wants to hound him or cause him discomfort but just by constantly pushing this issue like a dog with a bone, he’s putting himself in the firing line, and the natural consequence of that is being questioned about what exactly he’s playing at or trying to prove.

It shouldn’t have to fall to me or Niamh to teach a 60-something-year-old man about accountability or how not to hijack a conversation with his constant misperceptions. He just does it too often at this point for me to be comfortable staying quiet about it, I can’t lie. I appreciate you looking out for him (genuinely) but I honestly think he gets away with too much and expects too much assumed innocence and running around after his misperceptions because of his autism. I don’t want to shield him from the natural consequences of how often his misreadings disrupt things and cause unnecessary nuisance. I just can’t be tiptoeing around that. I feel like that just enables him.

The truth is, he hijacks discussions, puts himself directly in the firing line by obsessively clinging to his misunderstandings like a barnacle and acts like it’s everyone-else’s job to manage those misunderstandings for him. I’m pretty sick of it at this point. I just feel like if he’s old enough to draw a pension, he’s old enough to know that he’s not entitled to a lifetime-exemption from criticism or the expectation of basic group-awareness. He has set out deliberately to weaponise his diagnosis into a shield against consequence, like a naughty child, and he deliberately pushes boundaries over and over again. And he makes many xenophobic, misogynistic comments all the time. That alone erodes whatever sympathy I’d have for him. At some point he will have to sit down and have a WORD with himself.

WOW !


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

WOW !


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You’re in your 60s, laddie. Stop deflecting and WOWing and get yourself grown up. You’re not a child, and the likes of me won’t be pussyfooting around you like one or baby-sitting your misinterpretations of basic things. I don’t think that does you any good, and in any case, like I keep saying, TiBB is not wrongplanet.com, and maybe it isn’t the forum for you if you refuse to acknowledge that and keep thinking everyone should pander to and around your problems with basic social processing that everyone-else, even other people on the spectrum, understands.

Like it, don’t like it. That’s not even my problem. But one day you’ll realise why it’s good to take accountability for who you are and what you say.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

You’re in your 60s, lad. Stop deflecting and WOWing and get yourself grown up. You’re not a child, and the likes of me won’t be pussyfooting around you like one or baby-sitting your misinterpretations of basic things. I don’t think that does you any good.

Like it, don’t like it. That’s not even my problem. But one day you’ll realise why it’s good to take accountability for who you are and what you say.

That was the word … and if you really want to do some good for someone then try being a bit more reasonable / tolerant and maybe try being nicer to others


There you go lad … now run along


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[Zizu]

Thank fcuk I only questioned why he’d quoted himself … imagine if I’d killed someone’s puppy or kidnapped Camilla and wrecked Charles’s precious greenhouse !!!


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[Mystic Mock]

YouTube Shorts.

It's just these people thinking that they're God's gift.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

YouTube Shorts.

It's just these people thinking that they're God's gift.

They make oodles of money though when they hit certain numbers of followers and / or views .

I saw something about a pop star who had zillions of follower and who was making £85,000 for every uploaded video !

He uploads around 5 each WEEK !!!!!

He made 60 to 90 second clips of him and a couple of mates doing little trending dances !


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[Ammi]

…Zizu and Redway, neither of you have to or should change or adapt your posting ways and styles for the other one’s understanding …but the thread is little things that irritate and to keep it on topic and in that vein, a level of tolerance of individual differences would be a thought…rather than personal criticisms and derailing…

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Zizu and Redway, neither of you have to or should change or adapt your posting ways and styles for the other one’s understanding …but the thread is little things that irritate and to keep it on topic and in that vein, a level of tolerance of individual differences would be a thought…rather than personal criticisms and derailing…

Trust me, Ammi, I’ve tried. People have pussy-footed around him for a good chunk of his life, presumably, and that’s why he can’t take accountability or possibly comprehend why no-one owes him a change in posting-style just to fit him. So he just refuses to grow up. Because imagine treating a call to basic accountability as a personal attack.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

They make oodles of money though when they hit certain numbers of followers and / or views .

I saw something about a pop star who had zillions of follower and who was making £85,000 for every uploaded video !

He uploads around 5 each WEEK !!!!!

He made 60 to 90 second clips of him and a couple of mates doing little trending dances !


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I get that, and some of the shorts can be decent tbf.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

YouTube Shorts.

It's just these people thinking that they're God's gift.

But don't you want to know the fastest way to skin an apple

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Maru

But don't you want to know the fastest way to skin an apple

Don't forget people sniffing each others farts.

[Gusto Brunt]

Cold days in early June. Had to use a hot water bottle last night.

[Redway]

“The U.K. is bad vibes, the U.K. is bad vibes, the U.K. is bad vibes.”

Then move to Lagos, Atlanta or Toronto, then. Don’t keep going on about how much the U.K. is a clapped island if you have the means to do something about it.

[Redway]

Too many people, top clinicians included, treat tricyclics like glorified SSRIs with extra baggage. That’s reductive. The real efficacy of tricyclics, especially ones like clomipramine, doesn’t lie primarily with SERT (serotonin) or NET (norepinephrine) inhibition at-all. The long-term compensatory changes - the down-regulation of post-synaptic serotonin and beta-adrenergic receptors, and both pre.-and-post-synaptic alpha receptors - are key to why these drugs punch harder and deeper than most SSRIs ever will.

Clomipramine isn’t just a ‘stronger SSRI’. It’s a different class of weapon entirely. And the idea that its strength lies only in its SERT potency is textbook-level thinking that completely misses the point. Even people like Ken Gillman get caught up in that tunnel-vision sometimes. It’s not about first-line vs second-line. It’s about understanding what actually works when the softer options fail.

(Scientific one, still.)

[Redway]

Also. Speaking on behalf of people I’ve known to want to speak to a female volunteer specifically at Samaritans (e.g., re. a breast-lump), I can almost feel their frustration when all they get at night is a string of male volunteers, and I say that as a fellow-male. You can’t exactly customise your volunteer in advance but I’m sure it doesn’t bode well for the charity that there aren’t enough female volunteers on at night, probably because sexually-harassing calls from horny middle-aged men are at their peak then. And-so the innocent callers have to suffer the consequence of that. It’s not fair. The people calling at 2/3 a.m. to talk about their male rape (which they might not feel comfortable talking about with another man), their breast-lump, their domestic abuse or sexual trauma didn’t create the hostile environment that contributed to less women being comfortable to do the night-shift. They’re just being left to absorb the fallout of other people’s violations and abuse of the service. So the institutional gap can unintentionally alienate some callers.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Redway

“The U.K. is bad vibes, the U.K. is bad vibes, the U.K. is bad vibes.”

Then move to Lagos, Atlanta or Toronto, then. Don’t keep going on about how much the U.K. is a clapped island if you have the means to do something about it.

….but, but, but, but…we are the ‘whinging poms’ arent we…isn’t it said to be a part of the Brit culture to moan …so a move to Lagos or Toronto or Atlanta would any take and extend that worldwide because we’ll find those bad vibes wherever we are and there are always bad vibes to find…and it can be very therapeutic to moan about them….